networking problems

I have now had my network cabling tested and am still having a networking
problem with Windows Delayed Writes occuring.

Can someone please tell me how to go about testing using network monitor on
my XP workstation and my 2003 server.

I have posted to 3 areas and not had a reply.

If I can get monitor working then I will be able to sort the rest out I am
sure - I just can't work out how to get it working or even where I can get
the XP version of network monitor.

can any help please?

thanks,

jON

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321733

It doesn't look like this is a layer 1,2,3 issue.

"Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have now had my network cabling tested and am still having a networking
> problem with Windows Delayed Writes occuring.
>
> Can someone please tell me how to go about testing using network monitor
on
> my XP workstation and my 2003 server.
>
> I have posted to 3 areas and not had a reply.
>
> If I can get monitor working then I will be able to sort the rest out I am
> sure - I just can't work out how to get it working or even where I can get
> the XP version of network monitor.
>
> can any help please?
>
> thanks,
>
> jON
>
>

Not sure that I understand ... what is layer 1 2 and 3?

I have applied the fix in this article .... the next step is apparently to
look for retransmitted or failed packets and for that I need to use network
monitor.

Whilst I can find the cut down version for windows 2003 srver, I can't find
the one for windows xp.

jON

"Neteng" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%235z$(E-Mail Removed)...
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321733
>
> It doesn't look like this is a layer 1,2,3 issue.
>
> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have now had my network cabling tested and am still having a networking
>> problem with Windows Delayed Writes occuring.
>>
>> Can someone please tell me how to go about testing using network monitor
> on
>> my XP workstation and my 2003 server.
>>
>> I have posted to 3 areas and not had a reply.
>>
>> If I can get monitor working then I will be able to sort the rest out I
>> am
>> sure - I just can't work out how to get it working or even where I can
>> get
>> the XP version of network monitor.
>>
>> can any help please?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> jON
>>
>>
>
>

" It doesn't look like this is a layer 1,2,3 issue. "


In answer to your question "what is layer 1 2 3"

http://www.webopedia.com/quick_ref/OSI_Layers.asp

This should give you enough information for the OSI Layers

I am not sure why NETENG is so sure that it would not be a problem
within these layers because a faulty NIC
could cause the issues you are seeing and I am pretty sure that could
be considered a layer 2 issue.

Sorry I can't help you with network monitor as I use a hardware
analyzer (lucky me!!)

GOOD LUCK

www.ethereal.com

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> " It doesn't look like this is a layer 1,2,3 issue. "
>
>
> In answer to your question "what is layer 1 2 3"
>
> http://www.webopedia.com/quick_ref/OSI_Layers.asp
>
> This should give you enough information for the OSI Layers
>
> I am not sure why NETENG is so sure that it would not be a problem
> within these layers because a faulty NIC
> could cause the issues you are seeing and I am pretty sure that could
> be considered a layer 2 issue.
>
> Sorry I can't help you with network monitor as I use a hardware
> analyzer (lucky me!!)
>
> GOOD LUCK
>

Now I am completely lost ...

I have used Ethereal to packet capture and reproduced the Delayed Write
error ....

But where on earth do I look???

There are megabytes of data .... I have no idea where to look now...

jON

"Neteng" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> www.ethereal.com
>
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) oups.com...
>> " It doesn't look like this is a layer 1,2,3 issue. "
>>
>>
>> In answer to your question "what is layer 1 2 3"
>>
>> http://www.webopedia.com/quick_ref/OSI_Layers.asp
>>
>> This should give you enough information for the OSI Layers
>>
>> I am not sure why NETENG is so sure that it would not be a problem
>> within these layers because a faulty NIC
>> could cause the issues you are seeing and I am pretty sure that could
>> be considered a layer 2 issue.
>>
>> Sorry I can't help you with network monitor as I use a hardware
>> analyzer (lucky me!!)
>>
>> GOOD LUCK
>>
>
>

"Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote...
>I have used Ethereal to packet capture and reproduced the Delayed Write
>error ....But where on earth do I look??? There are megabytes >of data
>.... I have no idea where to look now...

Additional information for your reference:

"Delayed Write Failed" error message when you write a file to a server
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321733

"Delayed Write Failed" error message when you write a file to a server
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296058

"{Delayed Write Failed}" error message when you unplug a USB 2.0 storage
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=818788

You receive a "Delayed Write Failed" error message in Windows XP Service
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=870894

A program may stop responding, and event 50 and event 26 are logged, when
the program tries to write data to a volume mount point on a Windows Server
2003-based computer.
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;890352

--
Todd J Heron, MCSE
Windows Server 2003/2000/NT; CCA
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights

Thanks Todd,

I had already reviewed all of these and one mentioned using network monitor
to diagnose the connection between server and workstation.

I have been pointed in the direction of Ethereal but the amount of info is
staggering and I am afraid that I am lost trying to work out what I should
be looking into.

So far no one has been able to tell me how to install and use Network
Monitor on XP and on the server I have a cutdown version which doesn't seem
to do what I need to.

I just need to install network monitor on both server and workstation so
that I can check Microsoft suggestion in their knowledge base further.

jON


"Todd J Heron" <todd_heron(delete)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote...
>>I have used Ethereal to packet capture and reproduced the Delayed Write
>>error ....But where on earth do I look??? There are megabytes >of data
>>.... I have no idea where to look now...
>
> Additional information for your reference:
>
> "Delayed Write Failed" error message when you write a file to a server
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321733
>
> "Delayed Write Failed" error message when you write a file to a server
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296058
>
> "{Delayed Write Failed}" error message when you unplug a USB 2.0 storage
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=818788
>
> You receive a "Delayed Write Failed" error message in Windows XP Service
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=870894
>
> A program may stop responding, and event 50 and event 26 are logged, when
> the program tries to write data to a volume mount point on a Windows
> Server
> 2003-based computer.
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;890352
>
> --
> Todd J Heron, MCSE
> Windows Server 2003/2000/NT; CCA
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights
>

You don't need it installed on both. Just choose one and if you have to,
span the port.

"Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks Todd,
>
> I had already reviewed all of these and one mentioned using network
monitor
> to diagnose the connection between server and workstation.
>
> I have been pointed in the direction of Ethereal but the amount of info is
> staggering and I am afraid that I am lost trying to work out what I should
> be looking into.
>
> So far no one has been able to tell me how to install and use Network
> Monitor on XP and on the server I have a cutdown version which doesn't
seem
> to do what I need to.
>
> I just need to install network monitor on both server and workstation so
> that I can check Microsoft suggestion in their knowledge base further.
>
> jON
>
>
> "Todd J Heron" <todd_heron(delete)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote...
> >>I have used Ethereal to packet capture and reproduced the Delayed Write
> >>error ....But where on earth do I look??? There are megabytes >of data
> >>.... I have no idea where to look now...
> >
> > Additional information for your reference:
> >
> > "Delayed Write Failed" error message when you write a file to a server
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321733
> >
> > "Delayed Write Failed" error message when you write a file to a server
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296058
> >
> > "{Delayed Write Failed}" error message when you unplug a USB 2.0 storage
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=818788
> >
> > You receive a "Delayed Write Failed" error message in Windows XP Service
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=870894
> >
> > A program may stop responding, and event 50 and event 26 are logged,
when
> > the program tries to write data to a volume mount point on a Windows
> > Server
> > 2003-based computer.
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;890352
> >
> > --
> > Todd J Heron, MCSE
> > Windows Server 2003/2000/NT; CCA
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no
rights
> >
>
>

Sorry, lost me completely NetEng ...

can you point me in the direction of what you would do.

I only have a workstation and a seerver and one or other has a problem with
the NIC.

I have never done this before - complete novice ...

Even an MS article on what to do would help ...

many thanks,

jON



"Neteng" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> You don't need it installed on both. Just choose one and if you have to,
> span the port.
>
> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks Todd,
>>
>> I had already reviewed all of these and one mentioned using network
> monitor
>> to diagnose the connection between server and workstation.
>>
>> I have been pointed in the direction of Ethereal but the amount of info
>> is
>> staggering and I am afraid that I am lost trying to work out what I
>> should
>> be looking into.
>>
>> So far no one has been able to tell me how to install and use Network
>> Monitor on XP and on the server I have a cutdown version which doesn't
> seem
>> to do what I need to.
>>
>> I just need to install network monitor on both server and workstation so
>> that I can check Microsoft suggestion in their knowledge base further.
>>
>> jON
>>
>>
>> "Todd J Heron" <todd_heron(delete)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote...
>> >>I have used Ethereal to packet capture and reproduced the Delayed Write
>> >>error ....But where on earth do I look??? There are megabytes >of data
>> >>.... I have no idea where to look now...
>> >
>> > Additional information for your reference:
>> >
>> > "Delayed Write Failed" error message when you write a file to a server
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321733
>> >
>> > "Delayed Write Failed" error message when you write a file to a server
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296058
>> >
>> > "{Delayed Write Failed}" error message when you unplug a USB 2.0
>> > storage
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=818788
>> >
>> > You receive a "Delayed Write Failed" error message in Windows XP
>> > Service
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=870894
>> >
>> > A program may stop responding, and event 50 and event 26 are logged,
> when
>> > the program tries to write data to a volume mount point on a Windows
>> > Server
>> > 2003-based computer.
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;890352
>> >
>> > --
>> > Todd J Heron, MCSE
>> > Windows Server 2003/2000/NT; CCA
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
>> > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no
> rights
>> >
>>
>>
>
>