Networking information wanted

Is there a web site which has a good tutorial for implementing a
wireless network in a public area such as a hospital?

I'd like to get info about how they do the SSIDs, channel assignments
and such to create seamless network.
I'd also like to see a nice architecture diagram showing various ways
the system would be integrated into the external internet world.
Routers, gateways and stuff like that.

I'm interested in this stuff and would like to go further into
understanding how it all works and fits together.

Thanks!!

Dave

dave wrote:

> Is there a web site which has a good tutorial for implementing a
> wireless network in a public area such as a hospital?
>
> I'd like to get info about how they do the SSIDs, channel assignments
> and such to create seamless network.
> I'd also like to see a nice architecture diagram showing various ways
> the system would be integrated into the external internet world.
> Routers, gateways and stuff like that.
>
> I'm interested in this stuff and would like to go further into
> understanding how it all works and fits together.

The best for you would be to call a local company with experience in this.

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 02:41:07 GMT, decaturtxcowboy
<nope_none_@nowayspam.com> wrote:

>dave wrote:
>> Is there a web site which has a good tutorial for implementing a
>> wireless network in a public area such as a hospital?

>The best for you would be to call a local company with experience in this.

I agree. Hospitals have HIPAA security requirements which greatly
restrict what can be done with wireless. I strongly suggest you find
someone with a clue on both the technical and legal aspects of
wireless. There's more to security than just enabling encryption.


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On 24 Jan 2007 15:42:34 -0800, "dave" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<(E-Mail Removed) .com>:

>Is there a web site which has a good tutorial for implementing a
>wireless network in a public area such as a hospital?
>
>I'd like to get info about how they do the SSIDs, channel assignments
>and such to create seamless network.
>I'd also like to see a nice architecture diagram showing various ways
>the system would be integrated into the external internet world.
>Routers, gateways and stuff like that.
>
>I'm interested in this stuff and would like to go further into
>understanding how it all works and fits together.

See "hotspot" in the wikis below, which include a link to the Intel
deployment guide.

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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:14:11 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<(E-Mail Removed)>:

>On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 02:41:07 GMT, decaturtxcowboy
><nope_none_@nowayspam.com> wrote:
>
>>dave wrote:
>>> Is there a web site which has a good tutorial for implementing a
>>> wireless network in a public area such as a hospital?
>
>>The best for you would be to call a local company with experience in this.
>
>I agree. Hospitals have HIPAA security requirements which greatly
>restrict what can be done with wireless. I strongly suggest you find
>someone with a clue on both the technical and legal aspects of
>wireless. There's more to security than just enabling encryption.

True, if the wireless will serve both the hospital and the public, but
not if the wireless is a separate service provided just to and for the
public.

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John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:14:11 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
><(E-Mail Removed)>:
>
>>On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 02:41:07 GMT, decaturtxcowboy
>><nope_none_@nowayspam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>dave wrote:
>>>> Is there a web site which has a good tutorial for implementing a
>>>> wireless network in a public area such as a hospital?
>>
>>>The best for you would be to call a local company with experience in this.
>>
>>I agree. Hospitals have HIPAA security requirements which greatly
>>restrict what can be done with wireless. I strongly suggest you find
>>someone with a clue on both the technical and legal aspects of
>>wireless. There's more to security than just enabling encryption.

>True, if the wireless will serve both the hospital and the public, but
>not if the wireless is a separate service provided just to and for the
>public.

I beg to differ. HIPAA wireless security is more than just
encryption, authorization, and authentication. It's also about how to
prevent laptops from carrying off sensitive patient information. It's
about tracking users, logging access, and detecting penetrations. It's
about encrypted records, asset tracking, NAC/NAP, certificates, VPN's,
and possibly some biometrics. I have to deal with a few such systems
and they are nailed down rather tightly, much more than the common
corporate WLAN.

The one public access wireless in a hospital that I know about has
it's own DSL line and absolutely no physical connection to the
hospital network.

A mix of interesting articles and manure on wireless in hospitals:
<http://www.hipaadvisory.com/tech/wireless.htm>

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dave wrote:
> Is there a web site which has a good tutorial for implementing a
> wireless network in a public area such as a hospital?
>
> I'd like to get info about how they do the SSIDs, channel assignments
> and such to create seamless network.
> I'd also like to see a nice architecture diagram showing various ways
> the system would be integrated into the external internet world.
> Routers, gateways and stuff like that.
>
> I'm interested in this stuff and would like to go further into
> understanding how it all works and fits together.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Dave
>
Hospital ?
I doubt you will get permission unless it is completely independant of
the existing network .

John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>On 24 Jan 2007 15:42:34 -0800, "dave" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
><(E-Mail Removed) s.com>:
>
>>Is there a web site which has a good tutorial for implementing a
>>wireless network in a public area such as a hospital?
>>
>>I'd like to get info about how they do the SSIDs, channel assignments
>>and such to create seamless network.
>>I'd also like to see a nice architecture diagram showing various ways
>>the system would be integrated into the external internet world.
>>Routers, gateways and stuff like that.
>>
>>I'm interested in this stuff and would like to go further into
>>understanding how it all works and fits together.

>See "hotspot" in the wikis below, which include a link to the Intel
>deployment guide.

There's nothing under hotspots. The link is under Performance and
Speed:
<http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Performance_and_Speed>
and is broken. Intel moved the Wireless Hotspot Deployment Guide
somewhere (again) and neither Google nor I can find it. So, I posted
a copy here:
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/Intel%20HotSpot%20Guide.pdf>
It's well worth reading and highly recommended (by me). 1.8MBytes.


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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:41:45 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<(E-Mail Removed)>:

>John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>On 24 Jan 2007 15:42:34 -0800, "dave" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>><(E-Mail Removed) ps.com>:
>>
>>>Is there a web site which has a good tutorial for implementing a
>>>wireless network in a public area such as a hospital?
>>>
>>>I'd like to get info about how they do the SSIDs, channel assignments
>>>and such to create seamless network.
>>>I'd also like to see a nice architecture diagram showing various ways
>>>the system would be integrated into the external internet world.
>>>Routers, gateways and stuff like that.
>>>
>>>I'm interested in this stuff and would like to go further into
>>>understanding how it all works and fits together.
>
>>See "hotspot" in the wikis below, which include a link to the Intel
>>deployment guide.
>
>There's nothing under hotspots. The link is under Performance and
>Speed:

Would you have been happier if I had written "which also include?"

><http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Performance_and_Speed>
>and is broken. Intel moved the Wireless Hotspot Deployment Guide
>somewhere (again) and neither Google nor I can find it. So, I posted
>a copy here:
><http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/Intel%20HotSpot%20Guide.pdf>

Intel gave you permission?

>It's well worth reading and highly recommended (by me). 1.8MBytes.

<http://www.nor-tech.com/solutions/dox/Wi-Fi_Hotspot_Deployment_Guide.pdf>

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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:27:25 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<(E-Mail Removed)>:

>John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:14:11 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>><(E-Mail Removed)>:
>>
>>>On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 02:41:07 GMT, decaturtxcowboy
>>><nope_none_@nowayspam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>dave wrote:
>>>>> Is there a web site which has a good tutorial for implementing a
>>>>> wireless network in a public area such as a hospital?
>>>
>>>>The best for you would be to call a local company with experience in this.
>>>
>>>I agree. Hospitals have HIPAA security requirements which greatly
>>>restrict what can be done with wireless. I strongly suggest you find
>>>someone with a clue on both the technical and legal aspects of
>>>wireless. There's more to security than just enabling encryption.
>
>>True, if the wireless will serve both the hospital and the public, but
>>not if the wireless is a separate service provided just to and for the
>>public.
>
>I beg to differ. HIPAA wireless security is more than just
>encryption, authorization, and authentication. It's also about how to
>prevent laptops from carrying off sensitive patient information. It's
>about tracking users, logging access, and detecting penetrations. It's
>about encrypted records, asset tracking, NAC/NAP, certificates, VPN's,
>and possibly some biometrics. I have to deal with a few such systems
>and they are nailed down rather tightly, much more than the common
>corporate WLAN.
>
>The one public access wireless in a hospital that I know about has
>it's own DSL line and absolutely no physical connection to the
>hospital network.

Ahhh ... that's what I said (wrote).

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