Network with Windows XP and 2000 Pro

I have read through several posts and some are similar to my question, but
not exactly.

I have 2 computers one with Windows XP and the other is a dual boot with
Windows 2000 Pro and 98 SE. I set up a wirless PCI card in the dual boot
computer and the XP machine is hard wired to the router.

I first booted into Windows 2000 and setup the card. Once done, I went to
network neighborhood and I could see the XP machine. I went to the XP machine
and I could see the 2000 Pro system. So, that was a good thing!

After, I rebooted into 98SE. I set up the card the same way and connected to
the network sucessfully. I went to Network Neighborhood, but could not see
the XP machine. I went to the XP machine and could not see the 98SE. So, that
was not a good thing!

Is there something in 98 that I must set that is not necessary to do in
2000? Is it because 98 cannot see NTFS file systems, and that is why 98
cannot see XP? But, if that were the case XP should still be able to see 98.

Thanks!

The file system has nothing to do with it.

Check out www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Carey

"Keith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:408EC2D0-0FC4-49E2-81F1-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have read through several posts and some are similar to my question, but
> not exactly.
>
> I have 2 computers one with Windows XP and the other is a dual boot with
> Windows 2000 Pro and 98 SE. I set up a wirless PCI card in the dual boot
> computer and the XP machine is hard wired to the router.
>
> I first booted into Windows 2000 and setup the card. Once done, I went to
> network neighborhood and I could see the XP machine. I went to the XP
> machine
> and I could see the 2000 Pro system. So, that was a good thing!
>
> After, I rebooted into 98SE. I set up the card the same way and connected
> to
> the network sucessfully. I went to Network Neighborhood, but could not see
> the XP machine. I went to the XP machine and could not see the 98SE. So,
> that
> was not a good thing!
>
> Is there something in 98 that I must set that is not necessary to do in
> 2000? Is it because 98 cannot see NTFS file systems, and that is why 98
> cannot see XP? But, if that were the case XP should still be able to see
> 98.
>
> Thanks!

WOW Carey! I read through some of the tips, you have a fantastic site.
Unfortunately, I'm not at the computer now, but I will try the tips later and
post back. Thanks a bunch!

"Carey Holzman" wrote:

> The file system has nothing to do with it.
>
> Check out www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
>
> Carey
>
> "Keith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:408EC2D0-0FC4-49E2-81F1-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I have read through several posts and some are similar to my question, but
> > not exactly.
> >
> > I have 2 computers one with Windows XP and the other is a dual boot with
> > Windows 2000 Pro and 98 SE. I set up a wirless PCI card in the dual boot
> > computer and the XP machine is hard wired to the router.
> >
> > I first booted into Windows 2000 and setup the card. Once done, I went to
> > network neighborhood and I could see the XP machine. I went to the XP
> > machine
> > and I could see the 2000 Pro system. So, that was a good thing!
> >
> > After, I rebooted into 98SE. I set up the card the same way and connected
> > to
> > the network sucessfully. I went to Network Neighborhood, but could not see
> > the XP machine. I went to the XP machine and could not see the 98SE. So,
> > that
> > was not a good thing!
> >
> > Is there something in 98 that I must set that is not necessary to do in
> > 2000? Is it because 98 cannot see NTFS file systems, and that is why 98
> > cannot see XP? But, if that were the case XP should still be able to see
> > 98.
> >
> > Thanks!
>
>
>

You're welcome.

Let me know if they help!

Carey

"Keith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:A46C54FA-2151-4E72-8D30-(E-Mail Removed)...
> WOW Carey! I read through some of the tips, you have a fantastic site.
> Unfortunately, I'm not at the computer now, but I will try the tips later
> and
> post back. Thanks a bunch!
>
> "Carey Holzman" wrote:
>
>> The file system has nothing to do with it.
>>
>> Check out www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
>>
>> Carey
>>
>> "Keith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:408EC2D0-0FC4-49E2-81F1-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I have read through several posts and some are similar to my question,
>> >but
>> > not exactly.
>> >
>> > I have 2 computers one with Windows XP and the other is a dual boot
>> > with
>> > Windows 2000 Pro and 98 SE. I set up a wirless PCI card in the dual
>> > boot
>> > computer and the XP machine is hard wired to the router.
>> >
>> > I first booted into Windows 2000 and setup the card. Once done, I went
>> > to
>> > network neighborhood and I could see the XP machine. I went to the XP
>> > machine
>> > and I could see the 2000 Pro system. So, that was a good thing!
>> >
>> > After, I rebooted into 98SE. I set up the card the same way and
>> > connected
>> > to
>> > the network sucessfully. I went to Network Neighborhood, but could not
>> > see
>> > the XP machine. I went to the XP machine and could not see the 98SE.
>> > So,
>> > that
>> > was not a good thing!
>> >
>> > Is there something in 98 that I must set that is not necessary to do in
>> > 2000? Is it because 98 cannot see NTFS file systems, and that is why 98
>> > cannot see XP? But, if that were the case XP should still be able to
>> > see
>> > 98.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>>
>>
>>

In article <408EC2D0-0FC4-49E2-81F1-(E-Mail Removed)>,
"Keith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I have read through several posts and some are similar to my question, but
>not exactly.
>
>I have 2 computers one with Windows XP and the other is a dual boot with
>Windows 2000 Pro and 98 SE. I set up a wirless PCI card in the dual boot
>computer and the XP machine is hard wired to the router.
>
>I first booted into Windows 2000 and setup the card. Once done, I went to
>network neighborhood and I could see the XP machine. I went to the XP machine
>and I could see the 2000 Pro system. So, that was a good thing!
>
>After, I rebooted into 98SE. I set up the card the same way and connected to
>the network sucessfully. I went to Network Neighborhood, but could not see
>the XP machine. I went to the XP machine and could not see the 98SE. So, that
>was not a good thing!
>
>Is there something in 98 that I must set that is not necessary to do in
>2000? Is it because 98 cannot see NTFS file systems, and that is why 98
>cannot see XP? But, if that were the case XP should still be able to see 98.
>
>Thanks!

The file system is irrelevant. All versions of Windows can read/write
their own disks and make them available to all other versions over the
network.

Is there a firewall program (ZoneAlarm, Norton Internet Security,
PCCillin, etc) on the Windows 98 SE system? If so, make sure that
it's configured to allow access by other computers on the network.

Make sure that the Windows 98 SE system has TCP/IP as the only
installed network protocol. Go to Control Panel | Network and remove
IPX/SPX and NetBEUI if they're installed. Using more than one
protocol, on even one computer, can prevent network browsing from
working properly, especially when XP is involved. There's a lot of
misinformation about this in news groups and on the Internet.

It can take several minutes after a computer connects to the network
before it can see other computer and be seen in Network Neighborhood
or My Network Places. To access another computer directly during that
time, type the other computer's name in the Start | Run box in this
format:

\\computer
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Thanks Steve! Because the 2000 machine was found very quickly by the XP
machine, I assumed the same would be true between the XP and 98 machine. I
didn't think to manually try and find the 98 machine with the //[machine
name] syntax.

Also, I am pretty certain that the 98 machine has TCP/IP and NetBEUI
protocals enabled. While on this subject, do you mean that ONLY TCP/IP should
be enabled on ALL computers in the network (5)?

Finally, I have no firewalls on any individual machine. They are only behind
the built-in firewall of the router.

Thanks!

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:

> In article <408EC2D0-0FC4-49E2-81F1-(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "Keith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >I have read through several posts and some are similar to my question, but
> >not exactly.
> >
> >I have 2 computers one with Windows XP and the other is a dual boot with
> >Windows 2000 Pro and 98 SE. I set up a wirless PCI card in the dual boot
> >computer and the XP machine is hard wired to the router.
> >
> >I first booted into Windows 2000 and setup the card. Once done, I went to
> >network neighborhood and I could see the XP machine. I went to the XP machine
> >and I could see the 2000 Pro system. So, that was a good thing!
> >
> >After, I rebooted into 98SE. I set up the card the same way and connected to
> >the network sucessfully. I went to Network Neighborhood, but could not see
> >the XP machine. I went to the XP machine and could not see the 98SE. So, that
> >was not a good thing!
> >
> >Is there something in 98 that I must set that is not necessary to do in
> >2000? Is it because 98 cannot see NTFS file systems, and that is why 98
> >cannot see XP? But, if that were the case XP should still be able to see 98.
> >
> >Thanks!
>
> The file system is irrelevant. All versions of Windows can read/write
> their own disks and make them available to all other versions over the
> network.
>
> Is there a firewall program (ZoneAlarm, Norton Internet Security,
> PCCillin, etc) on the Windows 98 SE system? If so, make sure that
> it's configured to allow access by other computers on the network.
>
> Make sure that the Windows 98 SE system has TCP/IP as the only
> installed network protocol. Go to Control Panel | Network and remove
> IPX/SPX and NetBEUI if they're installed. Using more than one
> protocol, on even one computer, can prevent network browsing from
> working properly, especially when XP is involved. There's a lot of
> misinformation about this in news groups and on the Internet.
>
> It can take several minutes after a computer connects to the network
> before it can see other computer and be seen in Network Neighborhood
> or My Network Places. To access another computer directly during that
> time, type the other computer's name in the Start | Run box in this
> format:
>
> \\computer
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>

Ok, here is the latest. I am currently posting from the Windows XP machine.
Therfore, obviously, I can get on the network which shares internet access.

First I checked all the suggestions from Steve. Everything was as it should
be, but still no Win 98 computer in Network Places. I went to "Add Network
PLace" and typed in \\testlab1-98 (the computer's name) and it found it! I'm
not sure why it didn't find it automatically, but I can now access the 98
computer from the XP computer.

Second, I went to the 98 computer and checked the Network Neighborhood. I
opened the Entire Network and there was no XP computer. I went to Run and
tried to connect manually, but it wouldn't work that way either.

I then did steps 4 and 5 at Carey's website
(www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm). All the registry entries and everything
were as they should be, so I didn't change much. After doing those things,
still no XP computer. So, I tried to see if I could access the internet and
that didn't work.

I rebooted into Windows 2000 and was able to see the XP computer and get on
the internet. So, I figured it was a Windows 98 problem or maybe the wirless
adapter drivers weren't set up correctly in Windows 98.

I checked the device manager and the network adapter was working fine and
recieving a signal. I looked at the NetGear website and searched for the
model number, WG311v2, and didn't find any issued with Windows 98.

The other fishy thing is that I cannot access my router configuration screen
when I type 192.168.2.1 in Iternet Explorer. I can in every other OS, just
not when I'm in 98. I'm trying hard to figure it out myself, but I don't know
what to do next.

Thanks!

"Keith" wrote:

> I have read through several posts and some are similar to my question, but
> not exactly.
>
> I have 2 computers one with Windows XP and the other is a dual boot with
> Windows 2000 Pro and 98 SE. I set up a wirless PCI card in the dual boot
> computer and the XP machine is hard wired to the router.
>
> I first booted into Windows 2000 and setup the card. Once done, I went to
> network neighborhood and I could see the XP machine. I went to the XP machine
> and I could see the 2000 Pro system. So, that was a good thing!
>
> After, I rebooted into 98SE. I set up the card the same way and connected to
> the network sucessfully. I went to Network Neighborhood, but could not see
> the XP machine. I went to the XP machine and could not see the 98SE. So, that
> was not a good thing!
>
> Is there something in 98 that I must set that is not necessary to do in
> 2000? Is it because 98 cannot see NTFS file systems, and that is why 98
> cannot see XP? But, if that were the case XP should still be able to see 98.
>
> Thanks!

Do you have a firewall installed on the any of thePC's? Like Norton Internet
Security, Zone Alarm or Zero Knowledge Freedom?

If you'd like to work this through one-on-one, you are welcome to email me
and I can step you through it.

(E-Mail Removed)


"Keith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:74193F3B-0191-443B-8BD9-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ok, here is the latest. I am currently posting from the Windows XP
> machine.
> Therfore, obviously, I can get on the network which shares internet
> access.
>
> First I checked all the suggestions from Steve. Everything was as it
> should
> be, but still no Win 98 computer in Network Places. I went to "Add Network
> PLace" and typed in \\testlab1-98 (the computer's name) and it found it!
> I'm
> not sure why it didn't find it automatically, but I can now access the 98
> computer from the XP computer.
>
> Second, I went to the 98 computer and checked the Network Neighborhood. I
> opened the Entire Network and there was no XP computer. I went to Run and
> tried to connect manually, but it wouldn't work that way either.
>
> I then did steps 4 and 5 at Carey's website
> (www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm). All the registry entries and
> everything
> were as they should be, so I didn't change much. After doing those things,
> still no XP computer. So, I tried to see if I could access the internet
> and
> that didn't work.
>
> I rebooted into Windows 2000 and was able to see the XP computer and get
> on
> the internet. So, I figured it was a Windows 98 problem or maybe the
> wirless
> adapter drivers weren't set up correctly in Windows 98.
>
> I checked the device manager and the network adapter was working fine and
> recieving a signal. I looked at the NetGear website and searched for the
> model number, WG311v2, and didn't find any issued with Windows 98.
>
> The other fishy thing is that I cannot access my router configuration
> screen
> when I type 192.168.2.1 in Iternet Explorer. I can in every other OS, just
> not when I'm in 98. I'm trying hard to figure it out myself, but I don't
> know
> what to do next.
>
> Thanks!
>
> "Keith" wrote:
>
>> I have read through several posts and some are similar to my question,
>> but
>> not exactly.
>>
>> I have 2 computers one with Windows XP and the other is a dual boot with
>> Windows 2000 Pro and 98 SE. I set up a wirless PCI card in the dual boot
>> computer and the XP machine is hard wired to the router.
>>
>> I first booted into Windows 2000 and setup the card. Once done, I went to
>> network neighborhood and I could see the XP machine. I went to the XP
>> machine
>> and I could see the 2000 Pro system. So, that was a good thing!
>>
>> After, I rebooted into 98SE. I set up the card the same way and connected
>> to
>> the network sucessfully. I went to Network Neighborhood, but could not
>> see
>> the XP machine. I went to the XP machine and could not see the 98SE. So,
>> that
>> was not a good thing!
>>
>> Is there something in 98 that I must set that is not necessary to do in
>> 2000? Is it because 98 cannot see NTFS file systems, and that is why 98
>> cannot see XP? But, if that were the case XP should still be able to see
>> 98.
>>
>> Thanks!

In article <6CDDD25E-3B36-4CA4-AF72-(E-Mail Removed)>,
"Keith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Thanks Steve! Because the 2000 machine was found very quickly by the XP
>machine, I assumed the same would be true between the XP and 98 machine. I
>didn't think to manually try and find the 98 machine with the //[machine
>name] syntax.
>
>Also, I am pretty certain that the 98 machine has TCP/IP and NetBEUI
>protocals enabled. While on this subject, do you mean that ONLY TCP/IP should
>be enabled on ALL computers in the network (5)?
>
>Finally, I have no firewalls on any individual machine. They are only behind
>the built-in firewall of the router.
>
>Thanks!

You're welcome, Keith.

Yes, only TCP/IP should be enabled on ALL computers on the network.
All network functions are available using TCP/IP. Installing a second
protocol, on even one computer, can make network browsing unreliable,
especially when XP is involved.

Nothing in Windows networking has ever required NetBEUI. NetBEUI is
an unsupported protocol in Windows XP. That means that Microsoft
recommends not using it and won't give technical support on NetBEUI
problems.

Suggestions that it's necessary to add IPX/SPX in order to "reset" a
network connection are erroneous and often counter-productive.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article <74193F3B-0191-443B-8BD9-(E-Mail Removed)>,
"Keith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Ok, here is the latest. I am currently posting from the Windows XP machine.
>Therfore, obviously, I can get on the network which shares internet access.
>
>First I checked all the suggestions from Steve. Everything was as it should
>be, but still no Win 98 computer in Network Places. I went to "Add Network
>PLace" and typed in \\testlab1-98 (the computer's name) and it found it! I'm
>not sure why it didn't find it automatically, but I can now access the 98
>computer from the XP computer.
>
>Second, I went to the 98 computer and checked the Network Neighborhood. I
>opened the Entire Network and there was no XP computer. I went to Run and
>tried to connect manually, but it wouldn't work that way either.
>
>I then did steps 4 and 5 at Carey's website
>(www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm). All the registry entries and everything
>were as they should be, so I didn't change much. After doing those things,
>still no XP computer. So, I tried to see if I could access the internet and
>that didn't work.
>
>I rebooted into Windows 2000 and was able to see the XP computer and get on
>the internet. So, I figured it was a Windows 98 problem or maybe the wirless
>adapter drivers weren't set up correctly in Windows 98.
>
>I checked the device manager and the network adapter was working fine and
>recieving a signal. I looked at the NetGear website and searched for the
>model number, WG311v2, and didn't find any issued with Windows 98.
>
>The other fishy thing is that I cannot access my router configuration screen
>when I type 192.168.2.1 in Iternet Explorer. I can in every other OS, just
>not when I'm in 98. I'm trying hard to figure it out myself, but I don't know
>what to do next.
>
>Thanks!

Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all operating
systems. I've written a web page with details:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...hoot/netbt.htm

Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the beginning
of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should actually be
"Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the computer only
uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a peer-to-peer network,
for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;314053
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm