Network wan simulator

Does anyone have experience/recommendations of simulating network wan's - I
want to test a few wan acceleration products such as Riverbed or iShaper
from Packeteer but prefer to do this in a lab environment.

They will go into a Windows 2000/2003 domain with a main central site and
multiple remote offices - mostly office//email

The only one I had heard of is Network Nightmare Wan Simulator, is there any
others you can recommend?

I work for a Cisco and Riverbed partner. For our customers that want t
test / evaluate Riverbed in a test environment we actually have a
entire kit that we can bring out to demo for a customer. The kit i
provided by Riverbed so if you are working with a Riverbed partner fo
your evaluation they should be able to provide you with this set up.
Please let me know if you would like to see comparison data on all th
key players in the space. Riverbed is the best. We love to do bac
offs because it fun to watch the other solutions fall on their face.
Riverbed's WAN optimization solution is great and the new mobil
solution is icing on the cake.

Justin Lofton
Systems Engineer
Tredent Data Systems, Inc.
http://www.tredent.com
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"loftenter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I work for a Cisco and Riverbed partner. For our customers that want to
> test / evaluate Riverbed in a test environment we actually have an
> entire kit that we can bring out to demo for a customer. The kit is
> provided by Riverbed so if you are working with a Riverbed partner for
> your evaluation they should be able to provide you with this set up.
> Please let me know if you would like to see comparison data on all the
> key players in the space. Riverbed is the best. We love to do back
> offs because it fun to watch the other solutions fall on their face.
> Riverbed's WAN optimization solution is great and the new mobile
> solution is icing on the cake.
>
> Justin Lofton
> Systems Engineer
> Tredent Data Systems, Inc.
> http://www.tredent.com
> (E-Mail Removed)

I dont have a lot of time to spend on this so prefer to have my own kit I
can tweak when required - ive since purchased a network nightware wan
simulator so will be looking forward to testing some of our existing
riverbed's and a trial of packeteer's packetshaper and ishaper devices.

How does riverbed compare to the packeteer offering's - the ishaper for
instance which gives local domain controller & windows print server seems to
offer a more complete service than a riverbed alone.

We currently have riverbed in place and were hoping to get rid of
requirement for a local dc & print server but this didnt materialise due to
various problems we encountered - hopefully with a wan simulator I can test
the riverbeds properly to work through the problems reported.

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> > I work for a Cisco and Riverbed partner. For our customers that want to
> > test / evaluate Riverbed in a test environment we actually have an
> > entire kit that we can bring out to demo for a customer. The kit is
> > provided by Riverbed so if you are working with a Riverbed partner for
> > your evaluation they should be able to provide you with this set up.
> > Please let me know if you would like to see comparison data on all the
> > key players in the space. Riverbed is the best. We love to do back
> > offs because it fun to watch the other solutions fall on their face.
> > Riverbed's WAN optimization solution is great and the new mobile
> > solution is icing on the cake.
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> I dont have a lot of time to spend on this so prefer to have my own kit I
> can tweak when required - ive since purchased a network nightware wan
> simulator so will be looking forward to testing some of our existing
> riverbed's and a trial of packeteer's packetshaper andishaperdevices.
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> How does riverbed compare to the packeteer offering's - theishaperfor
> instance which gives local domain controller & windows print server seems to
> offer a more complete service than a riverbed alone.
>
> We currently have riverbed in place and were hoping to get rid of
> requirement for a local dc & print server but this didnt materialise due to
> various problems we encountered - hopefully with a wan simulator I can test
> the riverbeds properly to work through the problems reported.- Skjul teksti anførselstegn -
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Hi

Do you have any testresult on hove iShaper is performing again
Steelhead?

Hey Guys,

Wasn't trying to spam. Was trying to let you know that I've seen a lot
of bake offs and have a lot of info on most of the players. My opinion
is skewed because I really like the Riverbed solution but it's because
of sound reasons.

Here are some of the issues with the iShaper and why Packeteer is not
really doing well in this space:

The iShaper is marketed as a unified appliance that will combine
application-level monitoring, QoS, and acceleration. However a closer
look reveals that it is “unified” only in appearance, since it consists
of two separate appliances that happen to reside inside a single
physical box: a PacketShaper system (running a real-time OS) and an
iShared system (running Windows).

The iShaper is also presented as a solution for branch office server
consolidation that can run basic Microsoft services such as a print
server or Active Directory. For organizations that are interested in
server consolidation to reduce Windows costs at branches, a
Windows-based solution starts off on the wrong foot, because by
definition it involves deploying a Windows server at the remote site in
order to host Packeteer’s software. But the situation is even worse than
that – all software patches and updates for Packeteer’s Windows-based
products must be obtained through Packeteer, not Microsoft. Operating
system updates and security patches will not be available until
Packeteer has integrated, tested, and certified the new Microsoft
update with its own software.

Speed
Packeteer iShared/iShaper only has CIFS disk-based caching with limited
MAPI, NFS, HTTP
Packeteer PacketShaper only uses memory-only compression.
Packeteer iShared/iShaper cache is application specific
Mobiliti client provides only file caching and synchronization

Scale
Cached data coherency is always a problem; it becomes an even greater
problem as more people use the system
Data store is per peer as opposed to universal
Core-Edge setup doesn’t match today’s MPLS networks

Simplicity
iShaper is just two separate machines in one case
Every client node requires plug-in for MAPI acceleration
Caching and WAN optimization require separate config
Mobiliti needs special server software; can’t work with appliances

I hope this helps!

Justin Lofton
Systems Engineer
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Tredent Data Systems, Inc.
'Riverbed Partner' (http://www.tredent.com/riverbed/)


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