Network professionals.....no such thing.

Scenario:

1 x desktop PC with Belkin NIC going out to Netgear DG834 router for web
access etc. PC also fitted with wireless card to network with notebook PC.
Via wireless, both PC's clearly visible to each other, file transfer
perfectly OK & both access web no problem.

Problem:

When notebook is not switched on & connected via wireless n/work, desktop PC
can take around a minute to open programs by double-clicking associated
files, e.g. anyfile.pdf to open Acrobat/Acrobat Reader. As soon as network
connection is restored to both machines, all files open immediately.

I have spoken to a couple of the network techies at work & socially & none
can provide solution.

Any advice on how to overcome this please?

Thx

Andy

On Sun, 23 May 2004 17:32:16 +0000 (UTC), "Buggerlugs" <&(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Scenario:
>
>1 x desktop PC with Belkin NIC going out to Netgear DG834 router for web
>access etc. PC also fitted with wireless card to network with notebook PC.
>Via wireless, both PC's clearly visible to each other, file transfer
>perfectly OK & both access web no problem.
>
>Problem:
>
>When notebook is not switched on & connected via wireless n/work, desktop PC
>can take around a minute to open programs by double-clicking associated
>files, e.g. anyfile.pdf to open Acrobat/Acrobat Reader. As soon as network
>connection is restored to both machines, all files open immediately.
>
>I have spoken to a couple of the network techies at work & socially & none
>can provide solution.
>
>Any advice on how to overcome this please?

Post to relevant newsgroups. If you pick the wrong one, someone will
tell you which is more correct. For example, you picked both the NT
and W2K group, and I doubt you run both operating systems.

Second, disable the wireless NIC on the desktop when not in use.
Better, use a wireless cable router and drop the second NIC. You
might be able to just change the binding order depending on OS, but
disabling the unused NIC is the more likely to work.

Jeff

For some reason the PC is looking for some info from the laptop. Are any
shares reconnected on boot? Check the PCs registry for any reference to the
laptop's network name.

"Buggerlugs" <&(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:c8qn70$qaq$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Scenario:
>
> 1 x desktop PC with Belkin NIC going out to Netgear DG834 router for web
> access etc. PC also fitted with wireless card to network with notebook
PC.
> Via wireless, both PC's clearly visible to each other, file transfer
> perfectly OK & both access web no problem.
>
> Problem:
>
> When notebook is not switched on & connected via wireless n/work, desktop
PC
> can take around a minute to open programs by double-clicking associated
> files, e.g. anyfile.pdf to open Acrobat/Acrobat Reader. As soon as
network
> connection is restored to both machines, all files open immediately.
>
> I have spoken to a couple of the network techies at work & socially & none
> can provide solution.
>
> Any advice on how to overcome this please?
>
> Thx
>
> Andy
>
>

Hi,
Thx for the suggestion. Better ideas than the so called gurus in work who
restricted ideas to IP addresses only.

Am using W2k on notebook & XP Pro on desktop. Have tried disabling the
wireless NIC, but this gives no solution. Have noticed that only when all
network connectivity is removed, do other programs behave normally.

Would w/less router overcome this please?


"Jeff Cochran" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sun, 23 May 2004 17:32:16 +0000 (UTC), "Buggerlugs" <&(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >Scenario:
> >
> >1 x desktop PC with Belkin NIC going out to Netgear DG834 router for web
> >access etc. PC also fitted with wireless card to network with notebook
PC.
> >Via wireless, both PC's clearly visible to each other, file transfer
> >perfectly OK & both access web no problem.
> >
> >Problem:
> >
> >When notebook is not switched on & connected via wireless n/work, desktop
PC
> >can take around a minute to open programs by double-clicking associated
> >files, e.g. anyfile.pdf to open Acrobat/Acrobat Reader. As soon as
network
> >connection is restored to both machines, all files open immediately.
> >
> >I have spoken to a couple of the network techies at work & socially &
none
> >can provide solution.
> >
> >Any advice on how to overcome this please?
>
> Post to relevant newsgroups. If you pick the wrong one, someone will
> tell you which is more correct. For example, you picked both the NT
> and W2K group, and I doubt you run both operating systems.
>
> Second, disable the wireless NIC on the desktop when not in use.
> Better, use a wireless cable router and drop the second NIC. You
> might be able to just change the binding order depending on OS, but
> disabling the unused NIC is the more likely to work.
>
> Jeff

"Buggerlugs" wrote in message news:c8r4b1$o9n$(E-Mail Removed)...
: Thx for the suggestion. Better ideas than the so called gurus in work who
: restricted ideas to IP addresses only.

Is this comment really necessary?

: Am using W2k on notebook & XP Pro on desktop. Have tried disabling the
: wireless NIC, but this gives no solution.

"this gives no solution" is not clear.

: Have noticed that only when all
: network connectivity is removed, do other programs behave normally.

This is unclear. If you remove "all network connectivity" then your browser
does not behave normally, nor does your email client, and possibly others,
like services you might have running like Live Update for RTAV definition
updates, etc. Someone has already mentioned possible issues regarding the
binding order, services running needlessly, etc.

: Would w/less router overcome this please?

I'm not sure if w/less is an abbreviation for wireless. The wireless router
would eliminate the need to connect one workstation to another so the
wireless workstation can route through the wired workstation. Perhaps some
research time could be spent reviewing SOHO wireless connectivity devices?!

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...reless+routers

I took offense to your comment regarding your co-workers. The assumption
that if they do not know how to fix your home network, for free, then
they're obviously idiots. That's probably not the best approach to take
when asking a bunch of geeks for help. I'll bet if you offered to pay them,
we might not have heard from you regarding this issue. It appears you have
gotten your money's worth. (O:=

Good luck...

--
Roland Hall
/* This information is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
without any warranty; without even the implied warranty of merchantability
or fitness for a particular purpose. */
Online Support for IT Professionals -
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How-to: Windows 2000 DNS:
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FAQ W2K/2K3 DNS:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;291382

"Buggerlugs" <&(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<c8qn70$qaq$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> Scenario:
>
> 1 x desktop PC with Belkin NIC going out to Netgear DG834 router for web
> access etc. PC also fitted with wireless card to network with notebook PC.
> Via wireless, both PC's clearly visible to each other, file transfer
> perfectly OK & both access web no problem.
>
> Problem:
>
> When notebook is not switched on & connected via wireless n/work, desktop PC
> can take around a minute to open programs by double-clicking associated
> files, e.g. anyfile.pdf to open Acrobat/Acrobat Reader. As soon as network
> connection is restored to both machines, all files open immediately.
>
> I have spoken to a couple of the network techies at work & socially & none
> can provide solution.
>
> Any advice on how to overcome this please?
>
> Thx
>
> Andy

Its proberly because you have the network setup incorrectly with
referance to domain controlers and possibly LMhosts.
As to overcomingthe problem, RTFM or pay someone, also if your post
contained more technical info with ref to your config, and you didnt
show such a disreguard for others who had tried to help you for free
then you may get more assistance.

Ian
www.cyber-cottage.co.uk

Your problem is that you have a *bad design*. You are running two nics (1
wire, 1 wireless) in one machine that are on the same subnet.

You need a Wireless Connection Point (I don't mean Wireless Router). These
are the wireless counter part to a hub or switch. Plug the Wireless
Connnection Point into your existing Netgrear Router (it should have at
least 4 ports on it).

On the Desktop machine go to the Properties of Network Places (aka Network
Neighborhood). Choose "Advanced" from the menu at the top. Choose
"Advanced Settings..." from the menu that drops down. Set your Belkin NIC
in the priority list to be at the top. Just stare at the dialog box for a
while, you'll see where to do that.

Go to the Device Manager (Properties of My Computer). Delete the Wireless
NIC. Shutdown the machine and remove the wireless hardware. You want to
remove the wireless NIC in the OS and remove any software installed with it
*before* you shutdown and physically remove the wirelss nic.

Now the Desktop machine will connect to the Router via the normal cable as
it has been. The Laptop will connect to the Router by first going through
the Wireless Connection Point.

Now everything should work. The sun will be brighter, the sky bluer, the
clouds puffier, and the birds chirpier :-)

--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com





"Buggerlugs" <&(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:c8r4b1$o9n$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
> Thx for the suggestion. Better ideas than the so called gurus in work who
> restricted ideas to IP addresses only.
>
> Am using W2k on notebook & XP Pro on desktop. Have tried disabling the
> wireless NIC, but this gives no solution. Have noticed that only when all
> network connectivity is removed, do other programs behave normally.
>
> Would w/less router overcome this please?
>
>
> "Jeff Cochran" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > On Sun, 23 May 2004 17:32:16 +0000 (UTC), "Buggerlugs" <&(E-Mail Removed)>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Scenario:
> > >
> > >1 x desktop PC with Belkin NIC going out to Netgear DG834 router for
web
> > >access etc. PC also fitted with wireless card to network with notebook
> PC.
> > >Via wireless, both PC's clearly visible to each other, file transfer
> > >perfectly OK & both access web no problem.
> > >
> > >Problem:
> > >
> > >When notebook is not switched on & connected via wireless n/work,
desktop
> PC
> > >can take around a minute to open programs by double-clicking associated
> > >files, e.g. anyfile.pdf to open Acrobat/Acrobat Reader. As soon as
> network
> > >connection is restored to both machines, all files open immediately.
> > >
> > >I have spoken to a couple of the network techies at work & socially &
> none
> > >can provide solution.
> > >
> > >Any advice on how to overcome this please?
> >
> > Post to relevant newsgroups. If you pick the wrong one, someone will
> > tell you which is more correct. For example, you picked both the NT
> > and W2K group, and I doubt you run both operating systems.
> >
> > Second, disable the wireless NIC on the desktop when not in use.
> > Better, use a wireless cable router and drop the second NIC. You
> > might be able to just change the binding order depending on OS, but
> > disabling the unused NIC is the more likely to work.
> >
> > Jeff
>
>
>

"Phillip Windell" wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
: Now everything should work. The sun will be brighter, the sky bluer, the
: clouds puffier, and the birds chirpier :-)

Unless it's night time, raining, windy and you own a shotgun. (O:=

--
Roland Hall
/* This information is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
without any warranty; without even the implied warranty of merchantability
or fitness for a particular purpose. */
Online Support for IT Professionals -
http://support.microsoft.com/service...p?fr=0&sd=tech
How-to: Windows 2000 DNS:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;308201
FAQ W2K/2K3 DNS:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;291382

It was exactly that last night here,...and I have 4 cats.


--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com


"Roland Hall" <nobody@nowhere> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Phillip Windell" wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> : Now everything should work. The sun will be brighter, the sky bluer, the
> : clouds puffier, and the birds chirpier :-)
>
> Unless it's night time, raining, windy and you own a shotgun. (O:=
>
> --
> Roland Hall
> /* This information is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
> without any warranty; without even the implied warranty of merchantability
> or fitness for a particular purpose. */
> Online Support for IT Professionals -
> http://support.microsoft.com/service...p?fr=0&sd=tech
> How-to: Windows 2000 DNS:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;308201
> FAQ W2K/2K3 DNS:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;291382
>
>

"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
news:eHE%(E-Mail Removed)...
: It was exactly that last night here,...and I have 4 cats.

Ok, you might get the ASPCA to fall for that story but we both know the cats
didn't kill those birds. The 4th of July was a little early this year.
(O:=