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      11-08-2004, 12:34 PM
I have recently bought a new computer with win xp on it. I wish to transfer
the data from my old pc onto the new pc, so i got a network pci card and
fitted it into the old pc. I ran the network wizard in win xp, and it detects
the old pc. When i try to run this network wizard (on floppy from xp) in the
old pc, a message appears stating i don't have the correct hardware for
networking installed. When i check the device manager in win 98, it detects
the network card and says its working properly. The latest drivers are
installed for the card too. What an earth is going on? Please help, as to
transfer the data via serial cable is going to take 220 hour!
 
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      11-08-2004, 02:17 PM
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 05:34:01 -0800, "Mark"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I have recently bought a new computer with win xp on it. I wish to transfer
>the data from my old pc onto the new pc, so i got a network pci card and
>fitted it into the old pc. I ran the network wizard in win xp, and it detects
>the old pc. When i try to run this network wizard (on floppy from xp) in the
>old pc, a message appears stating i don't have the correct hardware for
>networking installed. When i check the device manager in win 98, it detects
>the network card and says its working properly. The latest drivers are
>installed for the card too. What an earth is going on? Please help, as to
>transfer the data via serial cable is going to take 220 hour!




Make sure you have a crossover network cable - 1 to 1 will not work.


 
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      11-08-2004, 10:00 PM
I'm using a null modem cable. I don't know what you mean by a crossover
network cable. Sorry, not to clued up on computers!

"Bob L" wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 05:34:01 -0800, "Mark"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >I have recently bought a new computer with win xp on it. I wish to transfer
> >the data from my old pc onto the new pc, so i got a network pci card and
> >fitted it into the old pc. I ran the network wizard in win xp, and it detects
> >the old pc. When i try to run this network wizard (on floppy from xp) in the
> >old pc, a message appears stating i don't have the correct hardware for
> >networking installed. When i check the device manager in win 98, it detects
> >the network card and says its working properly. The latest drivers are
> >installed for the card too. What an earth is going on? Please help, as to
> >transfer the data via serial cable is going to take 220 hour!

>
>
>
> Make sure you have a crossover network cable - 1 to 1 will not work.
>
>
>

 
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      11-08-2004, 10:41 PM
Go to a computer store and ask for a "crossover" Ethernet cable.
As previously mentioned, a regular Ethernet cable will not work when
connecting 2 computers directly.
Regular cables are used to connect through a router/switch/hub.


"Mark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:F1ECD7B8-0F1F-4A9E-B217-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm using a null modem cable. I don't know what you mean by a crossover
> network cable. Sorry, not to clued up on computers!
>
> "Bob L" wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 05:34:01 -0800, "Mark"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> >I have recently bought a new computer with win xp on it. I wish to
>> >transfer
>> >the data from my old pc onto the new pc, so i got a network pci card and
>> >fitted it into the old pc. I ran the network wizard in win xp, and it
>> >detects
>> >the old pc. When i try to run this network wizard (on floppy from xp) in
>> >the
>> >old pc, a message appears stating i don't have the correct hardware for
>> >networking installed. When i check the device manager in win 98, it
>> >detects
>> >the network card and says its working properly. The latest drivers are
>> >installed for the card too. What an earth is going on? Please help, as
>> >to
>> >transfer the data via serial cable is going to take 220 hour!

>>
>>
>>
>> Make sure you have a crossover network cable - 1 to 1 will not work.
>>
>>
>>



 
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      11-09-2004, 05:57 AM
In article <BE492863-8651-45B4-B2B4-(E-Mail Removed)>,
"Mark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I have recently bought a new computer with win xp on it. I wish to transfer
>the data from my old pc onto the new pc, so i got a network pci card and
>fitted it into the old pc. I ran the network wizard in win xp, and it detects
>the old pc. When i try to run this network wizard (on floppy from xp) in the
>old pc, a message appears stating i don't have the correct hardware for
>networking installed. When i check the device manager in win 98, it detects
>the network card and says its working properly. The latest drivers are
>installed for the card too. What an earth is going on? Please help, as to
>transfer the data via serial cable is going to take 220 hour!


Other replies have suggested that you might have the wrong type of
cable. A crossover cable is necessary for directly connecting two
computers using Ethernet. However, the type of cable has nothing to
do with the problem that you report: failure of XP's Network Setup
Wizard to find the networking hardware on the Win 98 computer.

The Wizard sometimes fails to find a network card that's installed and
working. The problem is probably due to a minor bug in the card's
driver program.

Fortunately, there's no need to run the Wizard on the Win 98 computer.
To configure the computer for networking with XP, go to Control Panel
| Network and:

1. Add these network components if they aren't already present:

TCP/IP protocol
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

2. Remove these network components if they're present:

IPX/SPX protocol
NetBEUI protocol
Client for NetWare networks

3. Set the workgroup name to the same name as the Windows XP computer
uses (default for XP is MSHOME).
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      11-09-2004, 02:30 PM
Bob and Alan, got myself the correct cable. Steve, I followed your advice
regarding control panel and network. This did not work, so remebering there
may be a bug in the driver, i took the pci card back, got a linksys one,
installed it with no problems, ran xp network setup wizard, all was hunky
doory. PCs did not show at first, so read other questions about networking,
disabled xp firewall, configured norton firewall, and what do you know, the
pcs appeared! Thank you very much you guys, you've saved me some hours!
Cheers, Mark.

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:

> In article <BE492863-8651-45B4-B2B4-(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "Mark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >I have recently bought a new computer with win xp on it. I wish to transfer
> >the data from my old pc onto the new pc, so i got a network pci card and
> >fitted it into the old pc. I ran the network wizard in win xp, and it detects
> >the old pc. When i try to run this network wizard (on floppy from xp) in the
> >old pc, a message appears stating i don't have the correct hardware for
> >networking installed. When i check the device manager in win 98, it detects
> >the network card and says its working properly. The latest drivers are
> >installed for the card too. What an earth is going on? Please help, as to
> >transfer the data via serial cable is going to take 220 hour!

>
> Other replies have suggested that you might have the wrong type of
> cable. A crossover cable is necessary for directly connecting two
> computers using Ethernet. However, the type of cable has nothing to
> do with the problem that you report: failure of XP's Network Setup
> Wizard to find the networking hardware on the Win 98 computer.
>
> The Wizard sometimes fails to find a network card that's installed and
> working. The problem is probably due to a minor bug in the card's
> driver program.
>
> Fortunately, there's no need to run the Wizard on the Win 98 computer.
> To configure the computer for networking with XP, go to Control Panel
> | Network and:
>
> 1. Add these network components if they aren't already present:
>
> TCP/IP protocol
> Client for Microsoft Networks
> File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
>
> 2. Remove these network components if they're present:
>
> IPX/SPX protocol
> NetBEUI protocol
> Client for NetWare networks
>
> 3. Set the workgroup name to the same name as the Windows XP computer
> uses (default for XP is MSHOME).
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>

 
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      11-10-2004, 12:01 AM
In article <74C1F4D8-FBC3-484A-92AF-(E-Mail Removed)>,
"Mark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Bob and Alan, got myself the correct cable. Steve, I followed your advice
>regarding control panel and network. This did not work, so remebering there
>may be a bug in the driver, i took the pci card back, got a linksys one,
>installed it with no problems, ran xp network setup wizard, all was hunky
>doory. PCs did not show at first, so read other questions about networking,
>disabled xp firewall, configured norton firewall, and what do you know, the
>pcs appeared! Thank you very much you guys, you've saved me some hours!
>Cheers, Mark.


You did a great job of overcoming several obstacles to get a working
network. Thanks for reporting the outcome.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
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