Network (Newbie)

Ok here we go
I'm contemplating getting broadband either virgin or bt, thoughts please.
I have 3 computers I would like to network,all of which I want an adsl
connection. I was going to purchase a Combined ADSL Modem/Router
all the pc's have Ethernet cards installed.
When I buy this router how would I firstly set it up to connect to the isp
connection? I have read in other posts that the disks you get from you isp
are specific to there modems.
I do not want there modem as I was going to use the modem/router.
I have been through adsl.org but cant seem to find the answers.
I was going to go for the netgear DG814 as this seems to have got a good
review. Any thoughts
Thank you for your replies. please keep flames to minimum

You Set the Router up usally through a web browser( fill in your username
password, play with some settings), i have the netgear DG814, cant comment
on it though as my exchange dont go live till 10/9/03, but it seems easy to
set up and looks great.
"Curious" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Ok here we go
> I'm contemplating getting broadband either virgin or bt, thoughts please.
> I have 3 computers I would like to network,all of which I want an adsl
> connection. I was going to purchase a Combined ADSL Modem/Router
> all the pc's have Ethernet cards installed.
> When I buy this router how would I firstly set it up to connect to the isp
> connection? I have read in other posts that the disks you get from you isp
> are specific to there modems.
> I do not want there modem as I was going to use the modem/router.
> I have been through adsl.org but cant seem to find the answers.
> I was going to go for the netgear DG814 as this seems to have got a good
> review. Any thoughts
> Thank you for your replies. please keep flames to minimum
>
>

"Curious" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ok here we go
> I'm contemplating getting broadband either virgin or bt, thoughts please.
> I have 3 computers I would like to network,all of which I want an adsl
> connection. I was going to purchase a Combined ADSL Modem/Router
> all the pc's have Ethernet cards installed.
> When I buy this router how would I firstly set it up to connect to the isp
> connection? I have read in other posts that the disks you get from you isp
> are specific to there modems.
> I do not want there modem as I was going to use the modem/router.
> I have been through adsl.org but cant seem to find the answers.
> I was going to go for the netgear DG814 as this seems to have got a good
> review. Any thoughts
> Thank you for your replies. please keep flames to minimum
>
>

Curious

My previous ISP was BT and my current is Virgin so I feel somewhat
qualified to give advice. Don't waste a year regretting signing with BT.
Go straight to Virgin. Even if you're not happy with them you can leave
after a month, but I suspect that you'll be happy with them as I am.

I've seen quite a few articles in this group about firmware upgrades. Some
not working. I'd google this group for DG814 & firmware to make sure.
I suspect there are a lot of happy DG814 users out there though.

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"Curious" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Ok here we go
> I'm contemplating getting broadband either virgin or bt, thoughts please.
> I have 3 computers I would like to network,all of which I want an adsl
> connection. I was going to purchase a Combined ADSL Modem/Router
> all the pc's have Ethernet cards installed.
> When I buy this router how would I firstly set it up to connect to the isp
> connection? I have read in other posts that the disks you get from you isp
> are specific to there modems.
> I do not want there modem as I was going to use the modem/router.
> I have been through adsl.org but cant seem to find the answers.
> I was going to go for the netgear DG814 as this seems to have got a good
> review. Any thoughts
> Thank you for your replies. please keep flames to minimum
>
>

Check that the ISP or router supplier will help you with the router setup.

Chris is right (Hi Chris) you setup your router via a browser, with an IP
address 192.168. etc etc

You can then login to the router with the default password, change this to
suit and re login as it reboots.

Depending on if you are having fixed or dynamic IP from your ISP.....

You will need to set the IP etc of the router to be the same as your network
and then give each pc an IP if you have not allready or set it to DHCP.

Your ISP will give you the login details for you to programme in as well as
thier DNS.

The IP of the router becomes the gateway for the machines on your network
and you must configure those too.

What I would say is it feels pretty daunting to start but its like anything
if youv'e done it once etc Its not really that difficult and if the router
has good instructions it really helps.

I use an ASUS modem/router which works well.

Hi Paul,

Like Paul Says seems hard at first but it really aint, i have never set up
an ethernet based network before, but after getting the router and reading
the manual, it seems anyone with basic computer knowledge could do it.
"P R-J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Curious" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Ok here we go
> > I'm contemplating getting broadband either virgin or bt, thoughts
please.
> > I have 3 computers I would like to network,all of which I want an adsl
> > connection. I was going to purchase a Combined ADSL Modem/Router
> > all the pc's have Ethernet cards installed.
> > When I buy this router how would I firstly set it up to connect to the
isp
> > connection? I have read in other posts that the disks you get from you
isp
> > are specific to there modems.
> > I do not want there modem as I was going to use the modem/router.
> > I have been through adsl.org but cant seem to find the answers.
> > I was going to go for the netgear DG814 as this seems to have got a good
> > review. Any thoughts
> > Thank you for your replies. please keep flames to minimum
> >
> >
>
> Check that the ISP or router supplier will help you with the router setup.
>
> Chris is right (Hi Chris) you setup your router via a browser, with an IP
> address 192.168. etc etc
>
> You can then login to the router with the default password, change this to
> suit and re login as it reboots.
>
> Depending on if you are having fixed or dynamic IP from your ISP.....
>
> You will need to set the IP etc of the router to be the same as your
network
> and then give each pc an IP if you have not allready or set it to DHCP.
>
> Your ISP will give you the login details for you to programme in as well
as
> thier DNS.
>
> The IP of the router becomes the gateway for the machines on your network
> and you must configure those too.
>
> What I would say is it feels pretty daunting to start but its like
anything
> if youv'e done it once etc Its not really that difficult and if the
router
> has good instructions it really helps.
>
> I use an ASUS modem/router which works well.
>
>
>
>

Hi
Thanks to everyone who replied to my question.
I was a bit apprehensive about the router settings as I've never set a
network up before. I suppose it is like you all said, once you've done it.
I think initially I would set it up just connected to one machine using it
for broad band then expand from there. Would that be feasible

Thanks again for your help

Yep you can have 1 pc connected to start with, thats what iam doing, then
adding another pc when my brother gets one.
As you connect other Pc's, consoles, devices, the router simply uses the
DHCP to assign Ip adress's, if your router does'nt have DHCP then all you do
is assign it manually, use something like 192.168.0.2, then the next pc,
device would be 192.168.0.3 and so on.

"Curious" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi
> Thanks to everyone who replied to my question.
> I was a bit apprehensive about the router settings as I've never set a
> network up before. I suppose it is like you all said, once you've done it.
> I think initially I would set it up just connected to one machine using it
> for broad band then expand from there. Would that be feasible
>
> Thanks again for your help
>
>

Thanks again guys
The thing that's still worrying me is that I'm going to get this
modem/router get it fired up then wont be able to use the modem. I was
pretty sure I was going to go with virgin, after searching there site for
information on how to set-up your own modem I wasn't to impressed. I don't
want to spend a fortune calling there 50p a minute helpline.
As I said in my earlier post I have read threads on this group with people
having terrible trouble trying to set-up there own modems.

Thanks to all for your time and effort

"Kraftee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
"Small homenetworks are nowadays being set up by people with very limited
knowledge"

Aircraft have auto-pilot but it does not mean you'd expect the pilot to not
know how to control the plane.

DHCP offers a lease time, after this the IP can and does change. When user x
goes to use app y that thought machine delta was at ip 123456 and is no
longer there - the user is stumped.

To set up the machine manually is easy enough - and gives the user a basic
understanding of how it gels together and pointers if they have problems.
After all - if they can mess around with the workings of a router - setting
up an ip & gateway on a machine is not going to be too taxing.

Networking and routing is NOT a basic or easy thing to take on. It involves
some reading and learning.

Sorry Kraftee babe - love you - wanna have yer babies but I disagree. Under
project watford I get more points for a longer reply.....

Stig Bronson wrote:
> "Kraftee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:8sO3b.1358" DUH......
>>
> "Small homenetworks are nowadays being set up by people with very
> limited knowledge"
>
> Aircraft have auto-pilot but it does not mean you'd expect the
> pilot to not know how to control the plane.
>
> DHCP offers a lease time, after this the IP can and does change.
> When user x goes to use app y that thought machine delta was at ip
> 123456 and is no longer there - the user is stumped.
>
> To set up the machine manually is easy enough - and gives the user
> a basic understanding of how it gels together and pointers if they
> have problems. After all - if they can mess around with the
> workings of a router - setting up an ip & gateway on a machine is
> not going to be too taxing.
>
> Networking and routing is NOT a basic or easy thing to take on. It
> involves some reading and learning.
>
> Sorry Kraftee babe - love you - wanna have yer babies but I
> disagree. Under project watford I get more points for a longer
> reply.....

Touche, but mine's the boy, you can have the girl & we'll agree to
disagree about this one....

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