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I have Windows 98SE and a router connected to cable modem. A laptop *XP
Home( is also connected to the router. The router can see both computers
and I access Internet on both without any problem.

However I have a couple of problems and would like to solve the first: the
Network icon on the desktop can only see itself, the 98SE. Through Windows
Explorer on the XP I can access the files on the 98SE which I chose to
share.

How come through the router software both computers are displayed but the
98SE cannot see the XP?

The second problem which may be related is that I have great difficulty
(although I do manage sometimes) to print from the XP to the printer which
is connected directly to the 98SE.

I managed to get it to work in the past, so I must have done something wrong
this time.

help...

Thank you

In article <e$$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jorge"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I have Windows 98SE and a router connected to cable modem. A laptop *XP
>Home( is also connected to the router. The router can see both computers
>and I access Internet on both without any problem.
>
>However I have a couple of problems and would like to solve the first: the
>Network icon on the desktop can only see itself, the 98SE. Through Windows
>Explorer on the XP I can access the files on the 98SE which I chose to
>share.
>
>How come through the router software both computers are displayed but the
>98SE cannot see the XP?

The most likely problem is that a firewall on the XP computer is
blocking access from 98SE.

>The second problem which may be related is that I have great difficulty
>(although I do manage sometimes) to print from the XP to the printer which
>is connected directly to the 98SE.
>
>I managed to get it to work in the past, so I must have done something wrong
>this time.

Without any details of how you've set up the shared printer or what
difficulties you're having, it's hard to say what's wrong.

First, configure any firewalls to allow access on the local area
network. If that doesn't solve the problem, please post another news
group message with full details of the problem: what you're trying to
do, how you're trying to do it, what exactly happens when you do it,
the full text of all error messages, etc. I'm sure that someone can
help.

>help...
>
>Thank you
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Thanks

I tried turning off the Firewall in both computers and the icon for the XP
on the 98SE Netwok Neighbourhood still does not show.

It is strange because I can transfer files both ways, the XP sees the 98SE
and the router software sees both computers.

Yet, not only the icon for the XP does not appear, when I go into Windows
Explorer on the 98SE and look at Entire Network, I can only see the 98SE.

In the past I could always see both computers on the 98SE, so I can only
imagine that I forgot to do something this time.

Thanks for your help.




"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <e$$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jorge"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >I have Windows 98SE and a router connected to cable modem. A laptop *XP
> >Home( is also connected to the router. The router can see both computers
> >and I access Internet on both without any problem.
> >
> >However I have a couple of problems and would like to solve the first:
the
> >Network icon on the desktop can only see itself, the 98SE. Through
Windows
> >Explorer on the XP I can access the files on the 98SE which I chose to
> >share.
> >
> >How come through the router software both computers are displayed but the
> >98SE cannot see the XP?
>
> The most likely problem is that a firewall on the XP computer is
> blocking access from 98SE.
>
> >The second problem which may be related is that I have great difficulty
> >(although I do manage sometimes) to print from the XP to the printer
which
> >is connected directly to the 98SE.
> >
> >I managed to get it to work in the past, so I must have done something
wrong
> >this time.
>
> Without any details of how you've set up the shared printer or what
> difficulties you're having, it's hard to say what's wrong.
>
> First, configure any firewalls to allow access on the local area
> network. If that doesn't solve the problem, please post another news
> group message with full details of the problem: what you're trying to
> do, how you're trying to do it, what exactly happens when you do it,
> the full text of all error messages, etc. I'm sure that someone can
> help.
>
> >help...
> >
> >Thank you
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jorge"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>I have Windows 98SE and a router connected to cable modem. A laptop *XP
>>>Home( is also connected to the router. The router can see both computers
>>>and I access Internet on both without any problem.
>>>
>>>However I have a couple of problems and would like to solve the first: the
>>>Network icon on the desktop can only see itself, the 98SE. Through Windows
>>>Explorer on the XP I can access the files on the 98SE which I chose to
>>>share.
>>>
>>>How come through the router software both computers are displayed but the
>>>98SE cannot see the XP?
>>
>>The most likely problem is that a firewall on the XP computer is
>>blocking access from 98SE.
>>
>>>The second problem which may be related is that I have great difficulty
>>>(although I do manage sometimes) to print from the XP to the printer which
>>>is connected directly to the 98SE.
>>>
>>>I managed to get it to work in the past, so I must have done something wrong
>>>this time.
>>
>>Without any details of how you've set up the shared printer or what
>>difficulties you're having, it's hard to say what's wrong.
>>
>>First, configure any firewalls to allow access on the local area
>>network. If that doesn't solve the problem, please post another news
>>group message with full details of the problem: what you're trying to
>>do, how you're trying to do it, what exactly happens when you do it,
>>the full text of all error messages, etc. I'm sure that someone can
>>help.
>
>Thanks
>
>I tried turning off the Firewall in both computers and the icon for the XP
>on the 98SE Netwok Neighbourhood still does not show.
>
>It is strange because I can transfer files both ways, the XP sees the 98SE
>and the router software sees both computers.
>
>Yet, not only the icon for the XP does not appear, when I go into Windows
>Explorer on the 98SE and look at Entire Network, I can only see the 98SE.
>
>In the past I could always see both computers on the 98SE, so I can only
>imagine that I forgot to do something this time.
>
>Thanks for your help.

You're welcome. What firewall program does each computer have? I've
seen cases that required un-installing, not just disabling, the
firewall to get everything working, especially with Norton, McAfee,
and ZoneAlarm. It's safe to un-install the firewall while
troubleshooting, because your router acts as a firewall, protecting
your computers from access by other Internet users.

Check to see whether your antivirus program has a built-in firewall
function that could be causing problems. For example, Norton
Antivirus 2005/2006 has a firewall function called "Internet Worm
Protection".

If un-installing a firewall solves the problem, re-install it and
configure it to allow access on the local area network.

If that doesn't solve the problem, try these steps on Windows XP:

1. Open the Network Connections folder, right-click the LAN
connection, and click Properties.

2. Make sure that there's a check mark in the "File and Printer
Sharing for Microsoft Networks" box.

3. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".

4. Click Properties.

5. Click Advanced.

6. Click the WINS tab.

7. Under "NetBIOS setting", click "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP".

8. Click OK to exit.

Then, go to the 98SE computer and test its access to XP:

1. Open a command prompt window (Start > Run > command) and type these
lines. Each one should receive four replies:

ping <XP's IP address> ; example: ping 192.168.1.102
ping <XP's computer name> ; example: ping xplaptop

2. Type these lines in the Start > Run box. Each one should show the
XP computer's shared disks, folders, and printers:

\\<XP's IP address> ; example: \\192.168.1.102
\\<XP's computer name> ; example: \\xplaptop
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

The Firewall is : Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5

I did all you told me and the icon for the laptop is still not appearng
inNetworkNeighbourhood of the 98SE.

However, the 98SE does know of the laptop because if I try to suspend the
98SE it tells me that there is another computer connected; also, access to
files either way is fine. It just a mystery why the laptop icon does not
show.

As for pinging: I think it is fine; the problem is that it is so fast that
the window closes and I cannot be sure if there are 3 or 4 lines.

Also, \\192.168.2.120 typed on the laptop showed the shared file and a
printer icon; but when I do it on the98SE it returns a box:

The network name cannot be found.


Hope it means something to you.

Thank you very much.




"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jorge"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>>I have Windows 98SE and a router connected to cable modem. A laptop
*XP
> >>>Home( is also connected to the router. The router can see both
computers
> >>>and I access Internet on both without any problem.
> >>>
> >>>However I have a couple of problems and would like to solve the first:
the
> >>>Network icon on the desktop can only see itself, the 98SE. Through
Windows
> >>>Explorer on the XP I can access the files on the 98SE which I chose to
> >>>share.
> >>>
> >>>How come through the router software both computers are displayed but
the
> >>>98SE cannot see the XP?
> >>
> >>The most likely problem is that a firewall on the XP computer is
> >>blocking access from 98SE.
> >>
> >>>The second problem which may be related is that I have great difficulty
> >>>(although I do manage sometimes) to print from the XP to the printer
which
> >>>is connected directly to the 98SE.
> >>>
> >>>I managed to get it to work in the past, so I must have done something
wrong
> >>>this time.
> >>
> >>Without any details of how you've set up the shared printer or what
> >>difficulties you're having, it's hard to say what's wrong.
> >>
> >>First, configure any firewalls to allow access on the local area
> >>network. If that doesn't solve the problem, please post another news
> >>group message with full details of the problem: what you're trying to
> >>do, how you're trying to do it, what exactly happens when you do it,
> >>the full text of all error messages, etc. I'm sure that someone can
> >>help.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >I tried turning off the Firewall in both computers and the icon for the
XP
> >on the 98SE Netwok Neighbourhood still does not show.
> >
> >It is strange because I can transfer files both ways, the XP sees the
98SE
> >and the router software sees both computers.
> >
> >Yet, not only the icon for the XP does not appear, when I go into Windows
> >Explorer on the 98SE and look at Entire Network, I can only see the 98SE.
> >
> >In the past I could always see both computers on the 98SE, so I can only
> >imagine that I forgot to do something this time.
> >
> >Thanks for your help.
>
> You're welcome. What firewall program does each computer have? I've
> seen cases that required un-installing, not just disabling, the
> firewall to get everything working, especially with Norton, McAfee,
> and ZoneAlarm. It's safe to un-install the firewall while
> troubleshooting, because your router acts as a firewall, protecting
> your computers from access by other Internet users.
>
> Check to see whether your antivirus program has a built-in firewall
> function that could be causing problems. For example, Norton
> Antivirus 2005/2006 has a firewall function called "Internet Worm
> Protection".
>
> If un-installing a firewall solves the problem, re-install it and
> configure it to allow access on the local area network.
>
> If that doesn't solve the problem, try these steps on Windows XP:
>
> 1. Open the Network Connections folder, right-click the LAN
> connection, and click Properties.
>
> 2. Make sure that there's a check mark in the "File and Printer
> Sharing for Microsoft Networks" box.
>
> 3. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".
>
> 4. Click Properties.
>
> 5. Click Advanced.
>
> 6. Click the WINS tab.
>
> 7. Under "NetBIOS setting", click "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP".
>
> 8. Click OK to exit.
>
> Then, go to the 98SE computer and test its access to XP:
>
> 1. Open a command prompt window (Start > Run > command) and type these
> lines. Each one should receive four replies:
>
> ping <XP's IP address> ; example: ping 192.168.1.102
> ping <XP's computer name> ; example: ping xplaptop
>
> 2. Type these lines in the Start > Run box. Each one should show the
> XP computer's shared disks, folders, and printers:
>
> \\<XP's IP address> ; example: \\192.168.1.102
> \\<XP's computer name> ; example: \\xplaptop
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Hello Steve.

I turned off the Firewall in the laptop and the \\laptop returned the shared
file and the printer. So I will see what is blocking the path.

But the icon still does not appear in NN


Jorge



"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jorge"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>>I have Windows 98SE and a router connected to cable modem. A laptop
*XP
> >>>Home( is also connected to the router. The router can see both
computers
> >>>and I access Internet on both without any problem.
> >>>
> >>>However I have a couple of problems and would like to solve the first:
the
> >>>Network icon on the desktop can only see itself, the 98SE. Through
Windows
> >>>Explorer on the XP I can access the files on the 98SE which I chose to
> >>>share.
> >>>
> >>>How come through the router software both computers are displayed but
the
> >>>98SE cannot see the XP?
> >>
> >>The most likely problem is that a firewall on the XP computer is
> >>blocking access from 98SE.
> >>
> >>>The second problem which may be related is that I have great difficulty
> >>>(although I do manage sometimes) to print from the XP to the printer
which
> >>>is connected directly to the 98SE.
> >>>
> >>>I managed to get it to work in the past, so I must have done something
wrong
> >>>this time.
> >>
> >>Without any details of how you've set up the shared printer or what
> >>difficulties you're having, it's hard to say what's wrong.
> >>
> >>First, configure any firewalls to allow access on the local area
> >>network. If that doesn't solve the problem, please post another news
> >>group message with full details of the problem: what you're trying to
> >>do, how you're trying to do it, what exactly happens when you do it,
> >>the full text of all error messages, etc. I'm sure that someone can
> >>help.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >I tried turning off the Firewall in both computers and the icon for the
XP
> >on the 98SE Netwok Neighbourhood still does not show.
> >
> >It is strange because I can transfer files both ways, the XP sees the
98SE
> >and the router software sees both computers.
> >
> >Yet, not only the icon for the XP does not appear, when I go into Windows
> >Explorer on the 98SE and look at Entire Network, I can only see the 98SE.
> >
> >In the past I could always see both computers on the 98SE, so I can only
> >imagine that I forgot to do something this time.
> >
> >Thanks for your help.
>
> You're welcome. What firewall program does each computer have? I've
> seen cases that required un-installing, not just disabling, the
> firewall to get everything working, especially with Norton, McAfee,
> and ZoneAlarm. It's safe to un-install the firewall while
> troubleshooting, because your router acts as a firewall, protecting
> your computers from access by other Internet users.
>
> Check to see whether your antivirus program has a built-in firewall
> function that could be causing problems. For example, Norton
> Antivirus 2005/2006 has a firewall function called "Internet Worm
> Protection".
>
> If un-installing a firewall solves the problem, re-install it and
> configure it to allow access on the local area network.
>
> If that doesn't solve the problem, try these steps on Windows XP:
>
> 1. Open the Network Connections folder, right-click the LAN
> connection, and click Properties.
>
> 2. Make sure that there's a check mark in the "File and Printer
> Sharing for Microsoft Networks" box.
>
> 3. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".
>
> 4. Click Properties.
>
> 5. Click Advanced.
>
> 6. Click the WINS tab.
>
> 7. Under "NetBIOS setting", click "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP".
>
> 8. Click OK to exit.
>
> Then, go to the 98SE computer and test its access to XP:
>
> 1. Open a command prompt window (Start > Run > command) and type these
> lines. Each one should receive four replies:
>
> ping <XP's IP address> ; example: ping 192.168.1.102
> ping <XP's computer name> ; example: ping xplaptop
>
> 2. Type these lines in the Start > Run box. Each one should show the
> XP computer's shared disks, folders, and printers:
>
> \\<XP's IP address> ; example: \\192.168.1.102
> \\<XP's computer name> ; example: \\xplaptop
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Sorry, once again.

Well, something different is happening to what I was used to with the very
same computers:

I found the icon for the laptop in NN on the 98SE, but...

In the past when I opened NN I saw 2 icons, one for each computer.

Now, I get one for "Entire Network" and another for the PC; if I click on
Ent Net I get "Home" which is the name I chose and MS Home which I believe
is default. Now, if I click on Home I get the PC; if I click on MS Home I
get the laptop!

What is happening?

Jorge



"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jorge"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>>I have Windows 98SE and a router connected to cable modem. A laptop
*XP
> >>>Home( is also connected to the router. The router can see both
computers
> >>>and I access Internet on both without any problem.
> >>>
> >>>However I have a couple of problems and would like to solve the first:
the
> >>>Network icon on the desktop can only see itself, the 98SE. Through
Windows
> >>>Explorer on the XP I can access the files on the 98SE which I chose to
> >>>share.
> >>>
> >>>How come through the router software both computers are displayed but
the
> >>>98SE cannot see the XP?
> >>
> >>The most likely problem is that a firewall on the XP computer is
> >>blocking access from 98SE.
> >>
> >>>The second problem which may be related is that I have great difficulty
> >>>(although I do manage sometimes) to print from the XP to the printer
which
> >>>is connected directly to the 98SE.
> >>>
> >>>I managed to get it to work in the past, so I must have done something
wrong
> >>>this time.
> >>
> >>Without any details of how you've set up the shared printer or what
> >>difficulties you're having, it's hard to say what's wrong.
> >>
> >>First, configure any firewalls to allow access on the local area
> >>network. If that doesn't solve the problem, please post another news
> >>group message with full details of the problem: what you're trying to
> >>do, how you're trying to do it, what exactly happens when you do it,
> >>the full text of all error messages, etc. I'm sure that someone can
> >>help.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >I tried turning off the Firewall in both computers and the icon for the
XP
> >on the 98SE Netwok Neighbourhood still does not show.
> >
> >It is strange because I can transfer files both ways, the XP sees the
98SE
> >and the router software sees both computers.
> >
> >Yet, not only the icon for the XP does not appear, when I go into Windows
> >Explorer on the 98SE and look at Entire Network, I can only see the 98SE.
> >
> >In the past I could always see both computers on the 98SE, so I can only
> >imagine that I forgot to do something this time.
> >
> >Thanks for your help.
>
> You're welcome. What firewall program does each computer have? I've
> seen cases that required un-installing, not just disabling, the
> firewall to get everything working, especially with Norton, McAfee,
> and ZoneAlarm. It's safe to un-install the firewall while
> troubleshooting, because your router acts as a firewall, protecting
> your computers from access by other Internet users.
>
> Check to see whether your antivirus program has a built-in firewall
> function that could be causing problems. For example, Norton
> Antivirus 2005/2006 has a firewall function called "Internet Worm
> Protection".
>
> If un-installing a firewall solves the problem, re-install it and
> configure it to allow access on the local area network.
>
> If that doesn't solve the problem, try these steps on Windows XP:
>
> 1. Open the Network Connections folder, right-click the LAN
> connection, and click Properties.
>
> 2. Make sure that there's a check mark in the "File and Printer
> Sharing for Microsoft Networks" box.
>
> 3. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".
>
> 4. Click Properties.
>
> 5. Click Advanced.
>
> 6. Click the WINS tab.
>
> 7. Under "NetBIOS setting", click "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP".
>
> 8. Click OK to exit.
>
> Then, go to the 98SE computer and test its access to XP:
>
> 1. Open a command prompt window (Start > Run > command) and type these
> lines. Each one should receive four replies:
>
> ping <XP's IP address> ; example: ping 192.168.1.102
> ping <XP's computer name> ; example: ping xplaptop
>
> 2. Type these lines in the Start > Run box. Each one should show the
> XP computer's shared disks, folders, and printers:
>
> \\<XP's IP address> ; example: \\192.168.1.102
> \\<XP's computer name> ; example: \\xplaptop
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Got it!

The laptop firewall needed a little check to allow file and printer sharing.
Now \\laptop is fine.

I still can't understand why the icons for the laptop and PC come in Home
and MS Home in the NN.

Jorge




"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jorge"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>>I have Windows 98SE and a router connected to cable modem. A laptop
*XP
> >>>Home( is also connected to the router. The router can see both
computers
> >>>and I access Internet on both without any problem.
> >>>
> >>>However I have a couple of problems and would like to solve the first:
the
> >>>Network icon on the desktop can only see itself, the 98SE. Through
Windows
> >>>Explorer on the XP I can access the files on the 98SE which I chose to
> >>>share.
> >>>
> >>>How come through the router software both computers are displayed but
the
> >>>98SE cannot see the XP?
> >>
> >>The most likely problem is that a firewall on the XP computer is
> >>blocking access from 98SE.
> >>
> >>>The second problem which may be related is that I have great difficulty
> >>>(although I do manage sometimes) to print from the XP to the printer
which
> >>>is connected directly to the 98SE.
> >>>
> >>>I managed to get it to work in the past, so I must have done something
wrong
> >>>this time.
> >>
> >>Without any details of how you've set up the shared printer or what
> >>difficulties you're having, it's hard to say what's wrong.
> >>
> >>First, configure any firewalls to allow access on the local area
> >>network. If that doesn't solve the problem, please post another news
> >>group message with full details of the problem: what you're trying to
> >>do, how you're trying to do it, what exactly happens when you do it,
> >>the full text of all error messages, etc. I'm sure that someone can
> >>help.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >I tried turning off the Firewall in both computers and the icon for the
XP
> >on the 98SE Netwok Neighbourhood still does not show.
> >
> >It is strange because I can transfer files both ways, the XP sees the
98SE
> >and the router software sees both computers.
> >
> >Yet, not only the icon for the XP does not appear, when I go into Windows
> >Explorer on the 98SE and look at Entire Network, I can only see the 98SE.
> >
> >In the past I could always see both computers on the 98SE, so I can only
> >imagine that I forgot to do something this time.
> >
> >Thanks for your help.
>
> You're welcome. What firewall program does each computer have? I've
> seen cases that required un-installing, not just disabling, the
> firewall to get everything working, especially with Norton, McAfee,
> and ZoneAlarm. It's safe to un-install the firewall while
> troubleshooting, because your router acts as a firewall, protecting
> your computers from access by other Internet users.
>
> Check to see whether your antivirus program has a built-in firewall
> function that could be causing problems. For example, Norton
> Antivirus 2005/2006 has a firewall function called "Internet Worm
> Protection".
>
> If un-installing a firewall solves the problem, re-install it and
> configure it to allow access on the local area network.
>
> If that doesn't solve the problem, try these steps on Windows XP:
>
> 1. Open the Network Connections folder, right-click the LAN
> connection, and click Properties.
>
> 2. Make sure that there's a check mark in the "File and Printer
> Sharing for Microsoft Networks" box.
>
> 3. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".
>
> 4. Click Properties.
>
> 5. Click Advanced.
>
> 6. Click the WINS tab.
>
> 7. Under "NetBIOS setting", click "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP".
>
> 8. Click OK to exit.
>
> Then, go to the 98SE computer and test its access to XP:
>
> 1. Open a command prompt window (Start > Run > command) and type these
> lines. Each one should receive four replies:
>
> ping <XP's IP address> ; example: ping 192.168.1.102
> ping <XP's computer name> ; example: ping xplaptop
>
> 2. Type these lines in the Start > Run box. Each one should show the
> XP computer's shared disks, folders, and printers:
>
> \\<XP's IP address> ; example: \\192.168.1.102
> \\<XP's computer name> ; example: \\xplaptop
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Sorry, sorry, sorry. Last one until I hear from you again: I promise!

Ok, when I do \\PC the shared files and printer belong to workgroup Home;
when I do \\laptop the workgroup is MS Home.

So how do I correct this without having to start all over again?

Funny thing is that all seems to be working fine (except some hiccups with
the printing from the laptop).

Jorge



"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jorge"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>>I have Windows 98SE and a router connected to cable modem. A laptop
*XP
> >>>Home( is also connected to the router. The router can see both
computers
> >>>and I access Internet on both without any problem.
> >>>
> >>>However I have a couple of problems and would like to solve the first:
the
> >>>Network icon on the desktop can only see itself, the 98SE. Through
Windows
> >>>Explorer on the XP I can access the files on the 98SE which I chose to
> >>>share.
> >>>
> >>>How come through the router software both computers are displayed but
the
> >>>98SE cannot see the XP?
> >>
> >>The most likely problem is that a firewall on the XP computer is
> >>blocking access from 98SE.
> >>
> >>>The second problem which may be related is that I have great difficulty
> >>>(although I do manage sometimes) to print from the XP to the printer
which
> >>>is connected directly to the 98SE.
> >>>
> >>>I managed to get it to work in the past, so I must have done something
wrong
> >>>this time.
> >>
> >>Without any details of how you've set up the shared printer or what
> >>difficulties you're having, it's hard to say what's wrong.
> >>
> >>First, configure any firewalls to allow access on the local area
> >>network. If that doesn't solve the problem, please post another news
> >>group message with full details of the problem: what you're trying to
> >>do, how you're trying to do it, what exactly happens when you do it,
> >>the full text of all error messages, etc. I'm sure that someone can
> >>help.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >I tried turning off the Firewall in both computers and the icon for the
XP
> >on the 98SE Netwok Neighbourhood still does not show.
> >
> >It is strange because I can transfer files both ways, the XP sees the
98SE
> >and the router software sees both computers.
> >
> >Yet, not only the icon for the XP does not appear, when I go into Windows
> >Explorer on the 98SE and look at Entire Network, I can only see the 98SE.
> >
> >In the past I could always see both computers on the 98SE, so I can only
> >imagine that I forgot to do something this time.
> >
> >Thanks for your help.
>
> You're welcome. What firewall program does each computer have? I've
> seen cases that required un-installing, not just disabling, the
> firewall to get everything working, especially with Norton, McAfee,
> and ZoneAlarm. It's safe to un-install the firewall while
> troubleshooting, because your router acts as a firewall, protecting
> your computers from access by other Internet users.
>
> Check to see whether your antivirus program has a built-in firewall
> function that could be causing problems. For example, Norton
> Antivirus 2005/2006 has a firewall function called "Internet Worm
> Protection".
>
> If un-installing a firewall solves the problem, re-install it and
> configure it to allow access on the local area network.
>
> If that doesn't solve the problem, try these steps on Windows XP:
>
> 1. Open the Network Connections folder, right-click the LAN
> connection, and click Properties.
>
> 2. Make sure that there's a check mark in the "File and Printer
> Sharing for Microsoft Networks" box.
>
> 3. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".
>
> 4. Click Properties.
>
> 5. Click Advanced.
>
> 6. Click the WINS tab.
>
> 7. Under "NetBIOS setting", click "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP".
>
> 8. Click OK to exit.
>
> Then, go to the 98SE computer and test its access to XP:
>
> 1. Open a command prompt window (Start > Run > command) and type these
> lines. Each one should receive four replies:
>
> ping <XP's IP address> ; example: ping 192.168.1.102
> ping <XP's computer name> ; example: ping xplaptop
>
> 2. Type these lines in the Start > Run box. Each one should show the
> XP computer's shared disks, folders, and printers:
>
> \\<XP's IP address> ; example: \\192.168.1.102
> \\<XP's computer name> ; example: \\xplaptop
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Just change the workgroup in one to match the other - it doesn't matter
which!


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Jorge" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Sorry, sorry, sorry. Last one until I hear from you again: I promise!
>
> Ok, when I do \\PC the shared files and printer belong to workgroup Home;
> when I do \\laptop the workgroup is MS Home.
>
> So how do I correct this without having to start all over again?
>
> Funny thing is that all seems to be working fine (except some hiccups with
> the printing from the laptop).
>
> Jorge
>
>
>
> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jorge"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >>>I have Windows 98SE and a router connected to cable modem. A laptop
> *XP
>> >>>Home( is also connected to the router. The router can see both
> computers
>> >>>and I access Internet on both without any problem.
>> >>>
>> >>>However I have a couple of problems and would like to solve the first:
> the
>> >>>Network icon on the desktop can only see itself, the 98SE. Through
> Windows
>> >>>Explorer on the XP I can access the files on the 98SE which I chose to
>> >>>share.
>> >>>
>> >>>How come through the router software both computers are displayed but
> the
>> >>>98SE cannot see the XP?
>> >>
>> >>The most likely problem is that a firewall on the XP computer is
>> >>blocking access from 98SE.
>> >>
>> >>>The second problem which may be related is that I have great
>> >>>difficulty
>> >>>(although I do manage sometimes) to print from the XP to the printer
> which
>> >>>is connected directly to the 98SE.
>> >>>
>> >>>I managed to get it to work in the past, so I must have done something
> wrong
>> >>>this time.
>> >>
>> >>Without any details of how you've set up the shared printer or what
>> >>difficulties you're having, it's hard to say what's wrong.
>> >>
>> >>First, configure any firewalls to allow access on the local area
>> >>network. If that doesn't solve the problem, please post another news
>> >>group message with full details of the problem: what you're trying to
>> >>do, how you're trying to do it, what exactly happens when you do it,
>> >>the full text of all error messages, etc. I'm sure that someone can
>> >>help.
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >
>> >I tried turning off the Firewall in both computers and the icon for the
> XP
>> >on the 98SE Netwok Neighbourhood still does not show.
>> >
>> >It is strange because I can transfer files both ways, the XP sees the
> 98SE
>> >and the router software sees both computers.
>> >
>> >Yet, not only the icon for the XP does not appear, when I go into
>> >Windows
>> >Explorer on the 98SE and look at Entire Network, I can only see the
>> >98SE.
>> >
>> >In the past I could always see both computers on the 98SE, so I can only
>> >imagine that I forgot to do something this time.
>> >
>> >Thanks for your help.
>>
>> You're welcome. What firewall program does each computer have? I've
>> seen cases that required un-installing, not just disabling, the
>> firewall to get everything working, especially with Norton, McAfee,
>> and ZoneAlarm. It's safe to un-install the firewall while
>> troubleshooting, because your router acts as a firewall, protecting
>> your computers from access by other Internet users.
>>
>> Check to see whether your antivirus program has a built-in firewall
>> function that could be causing problems. For example, Norton
>> Antivirus 2005/2006 has a firewall function called "Internet Worm
>> Protection".
>>
>> If un-installing a firewall solves the problem, re-install it and
>> configure it to allow access on the local area network.
>>
>> If that doesn't solve the problem, try these steps on Windows XP:
>>
>> 1. Open the Network Connections folder, right-click the LAN
>> connection, and click Properties.
>>
>> 2. Make sure that there's a check mark in the "File and Printer
>> Sharing for Microsoft Networks" box.
>>
>> 3. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".
>>
>> 4. Click Properties.
>>
>> 5. Click Advanced.
>>
>> 6. Click the WINS tab.
>>
>> 7. Under "NetBIOS setting", click "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP".
>>
>> 8. Click OK to exit.
>>
>> Then, go to the 98SE computer and test its access to XP:
>>
>> 1. Open a command prompt window (Start > Run > command) and type these
>> lines. Each one should receive four replies:
>>
>> ping <XP's IP address> ; example: ping 192.168.1.102
>> ping <XP's computer name> ; example: ping xplaptop
>>
>> 2. Type these lines in the Start > Run box. Each one should show the
>> XP computer's shared disks, folders, and printers:
>>
>> \\<XP's IP address> ; example: \\192.168.1.102
>> \\<XP's computer name> ; example: \\xplaptop
>> --
>> Best Wishes,
>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>>
>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>>
>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>
>> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>
>