network file sync

I'm soon getting a desktop replacement laptop, and I then intend to use
my desktop PC as my home network backup machine, running all my files
from my laptop.

I'm not in a position to run a domain (lack of software, lack of funds,
lack of enthusiasm) but merely a workgroup, and therefore i would like a
util that does something similar to what 'offline files' does when using
a domain - that is, I need the files to sync on the laptop and the
backup machine when i both logon and logoff the laptop, so that any
changes I've made to data on the laptop will be reflected to the backup
machine and vice versa. The latter is going to be a lot less frequent.

The option to also sync during the logon session would also be good, as
i don't neccesarily want to have to log on/off when I've done a load of
work just to keep the backup machine up-to-date.

The backup machine itself will then run overnight backups to NAS
devices.

I appreciate 'briefcase' will achieve this sort of synchronisation, but
I have always found it a bit clumsy.

Any ideas on a 3rd party util, preferably freeware, but if not, I'm
happy to pay a little bit out for the pleasure of getting what i need?

TIA

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>
> I'm soon getting a desktop replacement laptop, and I then intend to use
> my desktop PC as my home network backup machine, running all my files
> from my laptop.
>
> I'm not in a position to run a domain (lack of software, lack of funds,
> lack of enthusiasm) but merely a workgroup, and therefore i would like a
> util that does something similar to what 'offline files' does when using
> a domain - that is, I need the files to sync on the laptop and the
> backup machine when i both logon and logoff the laptop, so that any
> changes I've made to data on the laptop will be reflected to the backup
> machine and vice versa. The latter is going to be a lot less frequent.
>
> The option to also sync during the logon session would also be good, as
> i don't neccesarily want to have to log on/off when I've done a load of
> work just to keep the backup machine up-to-date.
>
> The backup machine itself will then run overnight backups to NAS
> devices.

I don't know of a "well integrated" solution to your problem. But I know of
one that will work.

I use "rsync" for doing backups and synchronization. It's a utility designed
to compare files on one host with those on another, and then bring them into
sync.

There is a Windows version available as part of the Cygwin installation.
It's not hard to use, but it's definitely NOT point-and-click. You need to
do some scripting using the Unix-like shell provided with Cygwin.

Also, note that you must decide which of the two filesets is the master and
which is the slave. When youc finish using the laptop, you'd want it's file
to be master, and you'd push updated files to your other box. At other
times, you'd want the laptop to be slave, and you'd pull updated files from
the other box.

If this is a suitable solution, write back for more information.

"Immure Obfuscation" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Tx2" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>> I'm soon getting a desktop replacement laptop, and I then intend to use
>> my desktop PC as my home network backup machine, running all my files
>> from my laptop.
>>
>> I'm not in a position to run a domain (lack of software, lack of funds,
>> lack of enthusiasm) but merely a workgroup, and therefore i would like a
>> util that does something similar to what 'offline files' does when using
>> a domain - that is, I need the files to sync on the laptop and the
>> backup machine when i both logon and logoff the laptop, so that any
>> changes I've made to data on the laptop will be reflected to the backup
>> machine and vice versa. The latter is going to be a lot less frequent.
>>
>> The option to also sync during the logon session would also be good, as
>> i don't neccesarily want to have to log on/off when I've done a load of
>> work just to keep the backup machine up-to-date.
>>
>> The backup machine itself will then run overnight backups to NAS
>> devices.
>
> I don't know of a "well integrated" solution to your problem. But I know
> of one that will work.
>
> I use "rsync" for doing backups and synchronization. It's a utility
> designed to compare files on one host with those on another, and then
> bring them into sync.

There's a Windows utility (downloadable from Microsoft site) call SyncToy
which syncshronises files between two folders, which can be shared folders
on another PC. You can choose to synchronise in either or both directions,

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:07:08 -0000, Tx2 wrote:

> I'm soon getting a desktop replacement laptop, and I then intend to use
> my desktop PC as my home network backup machine, running all my files
> from my laptop.
>
> I'm not in a position to run a domain (lack of software, lack of funds,
> lack of enthusiasm) but merely a workgroup, and therefore i would like a
> util that does something similar to what 'offline files' does when using
> a domain - that is, I need the files to sync on the laptop and the
> backup machine when i both logon and logoff the laptop, so that any
> changes I've made to data on the laptop will be reflected to the backup
> machine and vice versa. The latter is going to be a lot less frequent.
>
> The option to also sync during the logon session would also be good, as
> i don't neccesarily want to have to log on/off when I've done a load of
> work just to keep the backup machine up-to-date.
>
> The backup machine itself will then run overnight backups to NAS
> devices.
>
> I appreciate 'briefcase' will achieve this sort of synchronisation, but
> I have always found it a bit clumsy.
>
> Any ideas on a 3rd party util, preferably freeware, but if not, I'm
> happy to pay a little bit out for the pleasure of getting what i need?
>
> TIA

AllSynch, free is limited, paid is not.

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"Krazee Brenda" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> AllSynch, free is limited, paid is not.

Tried that. Requires manual intervention.

Tx2 wrote:
> I'm soon getting a desktop replacement laptop, and I then intend to use
> my desktop PC as my home network backup machine, running all my files
> from my laptop.
>
> I'm not in a position to run a domain (lack of software, lack of funds,
> lack of enthusiasm) but merely a workgroup, and therefore i would like a
> util that does something similar to what 'offline files' does when using
> a domain - that is, I need the files to sync on the laptop and the
> backup machine when i both logon and logoff the laptop, so that any
> changes I've made to data on the laptop will be reflected to the backup
> machine and vice versa. The latter is going to be a lot less frequent.
>
> The option to also sync during the logon session would also be good, as
> i don't neccesarily want to have to log on/off when I've done a load of
> work just to keep the backup machine up-to-date.
>
> The backup machine itself will then run overnight backups to NAS
> devices.
>
> I appreciate 'briefcase' will achieve this sort of synchronisation, but
> I have always found it a bit clumsy.
>
> Any ideas on a 3rd party util, preferably freeware, but if not, I'm
> happy to pay a little bit out for the pleasure of getting what i need?
>
> TIA
>

take a look at second copy http://www.centered.com/


I have used this for several years keeping a laptop synchronised with a
set of files on a server.

Tx2 <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> I'm soon getting a desktop replacement laptop, and I then intend
> to use my desktop PC as my home network backup machine, running
> all my files from my laptop.
>
> I'm not in a position to run a domain (lack of software, lack of
> funds, lack of enthusiasm) but merely a workgroup, and therefore
> i would like a util that does something similar to what 'offline
> files' does when using a domain - that is, I need the files to
> sync on the laptop and the backup machine when i both logon and
> logoff the laptop, so that any changes I've made to data on the
> laptop will be reflected to the backup machine and vice versa.
> The latter is going to be a lot less frequent.
>
> The option to also sync during the logon session would also be
> good, as i don't neccesarily want to have to log on/off when
> I've done a load of work just to keep the backup machine
> up-to-date.
>
> The backup machine itself will then run overnight backups to NAS
> devices.
>
> I appreciate 'briefcase' will achieve this sort of
> synchronisation, but I have always found it a bit clumsy.
>
> Any ideas on a 3rd party util, preferably freeware, but if not,
> I'm happy to pay a little bit out for the pleasure of getting
> what i need?
>
> TIA
>

Two more to consider: SyncToy and SyncBack.

In article <Xns98C45861D8141frz@62.253.170.163>
Frazer Jolly Goodfellow, mailto:no-(E-Mail Removed)
thought we might be interested in the following...

> Two more to consider: SyncToy and SyncBack.

Syncback is perfect for my needs, and at a great price!
Many thanks to all who offered suggestions.


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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:39:31 -0500, Immure Obfuscation wrote:

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>> AllSynch, free is limited, paid is not.
>
> Tried that. Requires manual intervention.

So does masturbation.

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:39:31 -0500, Immure Obfuscation wrote:

> "Krazee Brenda" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> AllSynch, free is limited, paid is not.
>
> Tried that. Requires manual intervention.

How? You set the Jobs, set the scheduler and masturbate, er, synch.

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