Network browsing/file & printer sharing over router

I have a home network with two Windows XP Home machines
and a Windows 98 machine, connected over a LinkSys
EtherFast Cable/DSL router. I have run the network
configuration wizard on one of the XP machines and created
a disk, and run that on the 98 machine. I have tried
both 'hub' and 'residential gateway' configurations. All
three machines are on the internet (via the DSL also on
the router), but I can't get the 98 machine to see one of
the XP machines. The 98 machine and the XP machine that it
can see are in one workgroup, the other XP machine is in a
different workgroup. How do I make the 98 machine browse
the workgroup correctly? The XP machine I want to connect
to is sharing a printer, so it should show up.

Oh, also, the connection times out on all four attempts
when I use the "ping" command in a DOS shell from the 98
machine.

>-----Original Message-----
>I have a home network with two Windows XP Home machines
>and a Windows 98 machine, connected over a LinkSys
>EtherFast Cable/DSL router. I have run the network
>configuration wizard on one of the XP machines and
created
>a disk, and run that on the 98 machine. I have tried
>both 'hub' and 'residential gateway' configurations. All
>three machines are on the internet (via the DSL also on
>the router), but I can't get the 98 machine to see one of
>the XP machines. The 98 machine and the XP machine that
it
>can see are in one workgroup, the other XP machine is in
a
>different workgroup. How do I make the 98 machine browse
>the workgroup correctly? The XP machine I want to connect
>to is sharing a printer, so it should show up.
>.
>

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"Russell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:06ab01c3b2e4$31b79bb0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a home network with two Windows XP Home machines
> and a Windows 98 machine, connected over a LinkSys
> EtherFast Cable/DSL router. I have run the network
> configuration wizard on one of the XP machines and created
> a disk, and run that on the 98 machine. I have tried
> both 'hub' and 'residential gateway' configurations. All
> three machines are on the internet (via the DSL also on
> the router), but I can't get the 98 machine to see one of
> the XP machines. The 98 machine and the XP machine that it
> can see are in one workgroup, the other XP machine is in a
> different workgroup. How do I make the 98 machine browse
> the workgroup correctly? The XP machine I want to connect
> to is sharing a printer, so it should show up.

In article <06ab01c3b2e4$31b79bb0$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Russell"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I have a home network with two Windows XP Home machines
>and a Windows 98 machine, connected over a LinkSys
>EtherFast Cable/DSL router. I have run the network
>configuration wizard on one of the XP machines and created
>a disk, and run that on the 98 machine. I have tried
>both 'hub' and 'residential gateway' configurations. All
>three machines are on the internet (via the DSL also on
>the router), but I can't get the 98 machine to see one of
>the XP machines. The 98 machine and the XP machine that it
>can see are in one workgroup, the other XP machine is in a
>different workgroup. How do I make the 98 machine browse
>the workgroup correctly? The XP machine I want to connect
>to is sharing a printer, so it should show up.

"Residential Gateway" is the right choice, since it disables XP's
built-in firewall. "Hub" enables the firewall, which blocks file and
printer sharing.

To see both workgroups in Windows 98, click Network Neighborhood, then
click Entire Network. To see both workgroups in Windows XP, click My
Network Places, then click "View workgroup computers" and press the
Backspace key.

To access another computer, regardless of what workgroup it's in, type
its name in the Start | Run box preceded by two backslashes:

\\computer

As you can see, using more than one workgroup name is OK, but it adds
a level of complication to your network
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
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In article <58ac01c3b2e5$9de0b4b0$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Russell"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I have a home network with two Windows XP Home machines
>>and a Windows 98 machine, connected over a LinkSys
>>EtherFast Cable/DSL router. I have run the network
>>configuration wizard on one of the XP machines and
>created
>>a disk, and run that on the 98 machine. I have tried
>>both 'hub' and 'residential gateway' configurations. All
>>three machines are on the internet (via the DSL also on
>>the router), but I can't get the 98 machine to see one of
>>the XP machines. The 98 machine and the XP machine that
>>it can see are in one workgroup, the other XP machine is in
>>a different workgroup. How do I make the 98 machine browse
>>the workgroup correctly? The XP machine I want to connect
>>to is sharing a printer, so it should show up.
>
>Oh, also, the connection times out on all four attempts
>when I use the "ping" command in a DOS shell from the 98
>machine.

Workgroup names have no effect on pinging. I suspect that there's a
firewall running on the invisible XP machine and preventing access to
it. I assume that all of the computers have IP addresses in the same
subnet.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Windows personal firewall setting in the connection
properties is disabled. Norton Internet Security on the XP
machine and ZoneAlarm on the 98 are also disabled, and it
still can't find the XP machine. We did run the network
setup disk created by the XP machine with the hub setting
on the 98, if it installs personal firewall when you do
that, I don't know how to check or disable it. I don't
know how to figure out if the IPs are on the same
subnet... there is no other hub/connection device, just
the one router.

>-----Original Message-----
>In article <58ac01c3b2e5$9de0b4b0
$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Russell"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>I have a home network with two Windows XP Home machines
>>>and a Windows 98 machine, connected over a LinkSys
>>>EtherFast Cable/DSL router. I have run the network
>>>configuration wizard on one of the XP machines and
>>created
>>>a disk, and run that on the 98 machine. I have tried
>>>both 'hub' and 'residential gateway' configurations.
All
>>>three machines are on the internet (via the DSL also on
>>>the router), but I can't get the 98 machine to see one
of
>>>the XP machines. The 98 machine and the XP machine that
>>>it can see are in one workgroup, the other XP machine
is in
>>>a different workgroup. How do I make the 98 machine
browse
>>>the workgroup correctly? The XP machine I want to
connect
>>>to is sharing a printer, so it should show up.
>>
>>Oh, also, the connection times out on all four attempts
>>when I use the "ping" command in a DOS shell from the 98
>>machine.
>
>Workgroup names have no effect on pinging. I suspect
that there's a
>firewall running on the invisible XP machine and
preventing access to
>it. I assume that all of the computers have IP addresses
in the same
>subnet.
>--
>Best Wishes,
>Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
>Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
group
>for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
>addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
>Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
>Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>.
>

In article <085401c3b2f7$b5c35710$(E-Mail Removed)>,
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>I have a home network with two Windows XP Home machines
>>>>and a Windows 98 machine, connected over a LinkSys
>>>>EtherFast Cable/DSL router. I have run the network
>>>>configuration wizard on one of the XP machines and
>>>created
>>>>a disk, and run that on the 98 machine. I have tried
>>>>both 'hub' and 'residential gateway' configurations. All
>>>>three machines are on the internet (via the DSL also on
>>>>the router), but I can't get the 98 machine to see one of
>>>>the XP machines. The 98 machine and the XP machine that
>>>>it can see are in one workgroup, the other XP machine is in
>>>>a different workgroup. How do I make the 98 machine browse
>>>>the workgroup correctly? The XP machine I want to connect
>>>>to is sharing a printer, so it should show up.
>>>
>>>Oh, also, the connection times out on all four attempts
>>>when I use the "ping" command in a DOS shell from the 98
>>>machine.
>>
>>Workgroup names have no effect on pinging. I suspect that there's a
>>firewall running on the invisible XP machine and preventing access to
>>it. I assume that all of the computers have IP addresses in the same
>>subnet.
>
>Windows personal firewall setting in the connection
>properties is disabled. Norton Internet Security on the XP
>machine and ZoneAlarm on the 98 are also disabled, and it
>still can't find the XP machine. We did run the network
>setup disk created by the XP machine with the hub setting
>on the 98, if it installs personal firewall when you do
>that, I don't know how to check or disable it. I don't
>know how to figure out if the IPs are on the same
>subnet... there is no other hub/connection device, just
>the one router.

The "hub" setting enables a firewall on XP, but not on 98.

Un-install all firewall programs while troubleshooting. Don't just
disable them -- un-install them, using the un-install procedure
provided by the manufacturer. Then, go to Start | Run | Msconfig |
Startup and disable any remnants of the firewall.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

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