netlogon and Gbit ethernet issue

Hello All,

I have the following configuration on two different servers, that have the
same issue:

Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterrise with SP2
Dell PowerEdge 2950 with Broadcom ( BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE (NDIS VBD
Client))

I get the following error on both:
"This computer was not able to set up a secure session with a domain
controller in domain APH due to the following:
There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon request.
This may lead to authentication problems. Make sure that this computer is
connected to the network. If the problem persists, please contact your domain
administrator.

ADDITIONAL INFO
If this computer is a domain controller for the specified domain, it sets up
the secure session to the primary domain controller emulator in the specified
domain. Otherwise, this computer sets up the secure session to any domain
controller in the specified domain."

> There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
> request.
> This may lead to authentication problems.

This sounds like a DNS problem.
Post an ipconfig /all from both of the servers.


hth
DDS

"Darren Brinksneader" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in message news:B13656C9-B700-4B6A-B715-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello All,
>
> I have the following configuration on two different servers, that have the
> same issue:
>
> Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterrise with SP2
> Dell PowerEdge 2950 with Broadcom ( BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE (NDIS VBD
> Client))
>
> I get the following error on both:
> "This computer was not able to set up a secure session with a domain
> controller in domain APH due to the following:
> There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
> request.
> This may lead to authentication problems. Make sure that this computer is
> connected to the network. If the problem persists, please contact your
> domain
> administrator.
>
> ADDITIONAL INFO
> If this computer is a domain controller for the specified domain, it sets
> up
> the secure session to the primary domain controller emulator in the
> specified
> domain. Otherwise, this computer sets up the secure session to any domain
> controller in the specified domain."

Let me elaborate a little more...

Systems joined domain with no problem
Systems can ping any host by name or IP
I can logon to the systems and connect to shares on the network.

From what I have read, it seems that some GBit cards take longer to go
through the intitalization process, so netlogon bet it to the punch.

This holds true, because I can restart the netlogon serivce and get no
additional errors.

I have increased the netlogon wait time to 30 seconds (no change)
I have added dependencies for netlogon such as TermServices, RasMan, the NIC
divers, NBT over TCIP, plus more... (no change)

I have installed different versions of drivers for the NICs also.

Any thoughts...

"Danny Sanders" wrote:

> > There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
> > request.
> > This may lead to authentication problems.
>
> This sounds like a DNS problem.
> Post an ipconfig /all from both of the servers.
>
>
> hth
> DDS
>
> "Darren Brinksneader" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> in message news:B13656C9-B700-4B6A-B715-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I have the following configuration on two different servers, that have the
> > same issue:
> >
> > Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterrise with SP2
> > Dell PowerEdge 2950 with Broadcom ( BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE (NDIS VBD
> > Client))
> >
> > I get the following error on both:
> > "This computer was not able to set up a secure session with a domain
> > controller in domain APH due to the following:
> > There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
> > request.
> > This may lead to authentication problems. Make sure that this computer is
> > connected to the network. If the problem persists, please contact your
> > domain
> > administrator.
> >
> > ADDITIONAL INFO
> > If this computer is a domain controller for the specified domain, it sets
> > up
> > the secure session to the primary domain controller emulator in the
> > specified
> > domain. Otherwise, this computer sets up the secure session to any domain
> > controller in the specified domain."
>
>
>

One other tidbit...this is Windows Server 64-bit.

"Darren Brinksneader" wrote:

> Let me elaborate a little more...
>
> Systems joined domain with no problem
> Systems can ping any host by name or IP
> I can logon to the systems and connect to shares on the network.
>
> From what I have read, it seems that some GBit cards take longer to go
> through the intitalization process, so netlogon bet it to the punch.
>
> This holds true, because I can restart the netlogon serivce and get no
> additional errors.
>
> I have increased the netlogon wait time to 30 seconds (no change)
> I have added dependencies for netlogon such as TermServices, RasMan, the NIC
> divers, NBT over TCIP, plus more... (no change)
>
> I have installed different versions of drivers for the NICs also.
>
> Any thoughts...
>
> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
>
> > > There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
> > > request.
> > > This may lead to authentication problems.
> >
> > This sounds like a DNS problem.
> > Post an ipconfig /all from both of the servers.
> >
> >
> > hth
> > DDS
> >
> > "Darren Brinksneader" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> > in message news:B13656C9-B700-4B6A-B715-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > I have the following configuration on two different servers, that have the
> > > same issue:
> > >
> > > Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterrise with SP2
> > > Dell PowerEdge 2950 with Broadcom ( BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE (NDIS VBD
> > > Client))
> > >
> > > I get the following error on both:
> > > "This computer was not able to set up a secure session with a domain
> > > controller in domain APH due to the following:
> > > There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
> > > request.
> > > This may lead to authentication problems. Make sure that this computer is
> > > connected to the network. If the problem persists, please contact your
> > > domain
> > > administrator.
> > >
> > > ADDITIONAL INFO
> > > If this computer is a domain controller for the specified domain, it sets
> > > up
> > > the secure session to the primary domain controller emulator in the
> > > specified
> > > domain. Otherwise, this computer sets up the secure session to any domain
> > > controller in the specified domain."
> >
> >
> >

Don't overlook the notorious LANcard-driver (faulty) powersave option. This
sounds a lot like the kind of symptoms it generates.

http://mylogon.net/support/psave

"Darren Brinksneader" wrote:

> > Systems joined domain with no problem
> > Systems can ping any host by name or IP
> > I can logon to the systems and connect to shares on the network.
> >
> > From what I have read, it seems that some GBit cards take longer to go
> > through the intitalization process, so netlogon bet it to the punch.
> >

I made sure the "power-save" option was deselected.

"Anteaus" wrote:

> Don't overlook the notorious LANcard-driver (faulty) powersave option. This
> sounds a lot like the kind of symptoms it generates.
>
> http://mylogon.net/support/psave
>
> "Darren Brinksneader" wrote:
>
> > > Systems joined domain with no problem
> > > Systems can ping any host by name or IP
> > > I can logon to the systems and connect to shares on the network.
> > >
> > > From what I have read, it seems that some GBit cards take longer to go
> > > through the intitalization process, so netlogon bet it to the punch.
> > >
>

> Systems can ping any host by name or IP

When you get the message about no domain controller found can you ping the
DNS server at that time?

hth
DDS

"Darren Brinksneader" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in message news:B7A44247-72B6-46B6-8348-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Let me elaborate a little more...
>
> Systems joined domain with no problem
> Systems can ping any host by name or IP
> I can logon to the systems and connect to shares on the network.
>
> From what I have read, it seems that some GBit cards take longer to go
> through the intitalization process, so netlogon bet it to the punch.
>
> This holds true, because I can restart the netlogon serivce and get no
> additional errors.
>
> I have increased the netlogon wait time to 30 seconds (no change)
> I have added dependencies for netlogon such as TermServices, RasMan, the
> NIC
> divers, NBT over TCIP, plus more... (no change)
>
> I have installed different versions of drivers for the NICs also.
>
> Any thoughts...
>
> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
>
>> > There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
>> > request.
>> > This may lead to authentication problems.
>>
>> This sounds like a DNS problem.
>> Post an ipconfig /all from both of the servers.
>>
>>
>> hth
>> DDS
>>
>> "Darren Brinksneader" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote
>> in message news:B13656C9-B700-4B6A-B715-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > I have the following configuration on two different servers, that have
>> > the
>> > same issue:
>> >
>> > Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterrise with SP2
>> > Dell PowerEdge 2950 with Broadcom ( BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE (NDIS
>> > VBD
>> > Client))
>> >
>> > I get the following error on both:
>> > "This computer was not able to set up a secure session with a domain
>> > controller in domain APH due to the following:
>> > There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
>> > request.
>> > This may lead to authentication problems. Make sure that this computer
>> > is
>> > connected to the network. If the problem persists, please contact your
>> > domain
>> > administrator.
>> >
>> > ADDITIONAL INFO
>> > If this computer is a domain controller for the specified domain, it
>> > sets
>> > up
>> > the secure session to the primary domain controller emulator in the
>> > specified
>> > domain. Otherwise, this computer sets up the secure session to any
>> > domain
>> > controller in the specified domain."
>>
>>
>>

That's the whole problem. This happens before logon, when the computer tries
to connect to establish a secure channel, authenticate the server and process
the computer policies. By the time a user can log on, net logon connectivity
is established. So, that is why I think it is a gbit NIC
driver/load/initialize related issue. Netlogon is beating it to the punch.

"Danny Sanders" wrote:

> > Systems can ping any host by name or IP
>
> When you get the message about no domain controller found can you ping the
> DNS server at that time?
>
> hth
> DDS
>
> "Darren Brinksneader" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> in message news:B7A44247-72B6-46B6-8348-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Let me elaborate a little more...
> >
> > Systems joined domain with no problem
> > Systems can ping any host by name or IP
> > I can logon to the systems and connect to shares on the network.
> >
> > From what I have read, it seems that some GBit cards take longer to go
> > through the intitalization process, so netlogon bet it to the punch.
> >
> > This holds true, because I can restart the netlogon serivce and get no
> > additional errors.
> >
> > I have increased the netlogon wait time to 30 seconds (no change)
> > I have added dependencies for netlogon such as TermServices, RasMan, the
> > NIC
> > divers, NBT over TCIP, plus more... (no change)
> >
> > I have installed different versions of drivers for the NICs also.
> >
> > Any thoughts...
> >
> > "Danny Sanders" wrote:
> >
> >> > There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
> >> > request.
> >> > This may lead to authentication problems.
> >>
> >> This sounds like a DNS problem.
> >> Post an ipconfig /all from both of the servers.
> >>
> >>
> >> hth
> >> DDS
> >>
> >> "Darren Brinksneader" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> >> wrote
> >> in message news:B13656C9-B700-4B6A-B715-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Hello All,
> >> >
> >> > I have the following configuration on two different servers, that have
> >> > the
> >> > same issue:
> >> >
> >> > Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterrise with SP2
> >> > Dell PowerEdge 2950 with Broadcom ( BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE (NDIS
> >> > VBD
> >> > Client))
> >> >
> >> > I get the following error on both:
> >> > "This computer was not able to set up a secure session with a domain
> >> > controller in domain APH due to the following:
> >> > There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
> >> > request.
> >> > This may lead to authentication problems. Make sure that this computer
> >> > is
> >> > connected to the network. If the problem persists, please contact your
> >> > domain
> >> > administrator.
> >> >
> >> > ADDITIONAL INFO
> >> > If this computer is a domain controller for the specified domain, it
> >> > sets
> >> > up
> >> > the secure session to the primary domain controller emulator in the
> >> > specified
> >> > domain. Otherwise, this computer sets up the secure session to any
> >> > domain
> >> > controller in the specified domain."
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

I would install a 10/100 NIC and test. If the problem goes away I would get
in touch with the people that make the GIG NIC and explain what's happening.

hth
DDS

"Darren Brinksneader" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in message news:0F0A2E30-E882-4190-9C50-(E-Mail Removed)...
> That's the whole problem. This happens before logon, when the computer
> tries
> to connect to establish a secure channel, authenticate the server and
> process
> the computer policies. By the time a user can log on, net logon
> connectivity
> is established. So, that is why I think it is a gbit NIC
> driver/load/initialize related issue. Netlogon is beating it to the
> punch.
>
> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
>
>> > Systems can ping any host by name or IP
>>
>> When you get the message about no domain controller found can you ping
>> the
>> DNS server at that time?
>>
>> hth
>> DDS
>>
>> "Darren Brinksneader" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote
>> in message news:B7A44247-72B6-46B6-8348-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Let me elaborate a little more...
>> >
>> > Systems joined domain with no problem
>> > Systems can ping any host by name or IP
>> > I can logon to the systems and connect to shares on the network.
>> >
>> > From what I have read, it seems that some GBit cards take longer to go
>> > through the intitalization process, so netlogon bet it to the punch.
>> >
>> > This holds true, because I can restart the netlogon serivce and get no
>> > additional errors.
>> >
>> > I have increased the netlogon wait time to 30 seconds (no change)
>> > I have added dependencies for netlogon such as TermServices, RasMan,
>> > the
>> > NIC
>> > divers, NBT over TCIP, plus more... (no change)
>> >
>> > I have installed different versions of drivers for the NICs also.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts...
>> >
>> > "Danny Sanders" wrote:
>> >
>> >> > There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
>> >> > request.
>> >> > This may lead to authentication problems.
>> >>
>> >> This sounds like a DNS problem.
>> >> Post an ipconfig /all from both of the servers.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> hth
>> >> DDS
>> >>
>> >> "Darren Brinksneader" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> >> wrote
>> >> in message news:B13656C9-B700-4B6A-B715-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Hello All,
>> >> >
>> >> > I have the following configuration on two different servers, that
>> >> > have
>> >> > the
>> >> > same issue:
>> >> >
>> >> > Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterrise with SP2
>> >> > Dell PowerEdge 2950 with Broadcom ( BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE (NDIS
>> >> > VBD
>> >> > Client))
>> >> >
>> >> > I get the following error on both:
>> >> > "This computer was not able to set up a secure session with a domain
>> >> > controller in domain APH due to the following:
>> >> > There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
>> >> > request.
>> >> > This may lead to authentication problems. Make sure that this
>> >> > computer
>> >> > is
>> >> > connected to the network. If the problem persists, please contact
>> >> > your
>> >> > domain
>> >> > administrator.
>> >> >
>> >> > ADDITIONAL INFO
>> >> > If this computer is a domain controller for the specified domain, it
>> >> > sets
>> >> > up
>> >> > the secure session to the primary domain controller emulator in the
>> >> > specified
>> >> > domain. Otherwise, this computer sets up the secure session to any
>> >> > domain
>> >> > controller in the specified domain."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

That was my line of thinking. The only issue is that I need to find a
PCI-x/e card.

Thanks.

"Danny Sanders" wrote:

> I would install a 10/100 NIC and test. If the problem goes away I would get
> in touch with the people that make the GIG NIC and explain what's happening.
>
> hth
> DDS
>
> "Darren Brinksneader" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> in message news:0F0A2E30-E882-4190-9C50-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > That's the whole problem. This happens before logon, when the computer
> > tries
> > to connect to establish a secure channel, authenticate the server and
> > process
> > the computer policies. By the time a user can log on, net logon
> > connectivity
> > is established. So, that is why I think it is a gbit NIC
> > driver/load/initialize related issue. Netlogon is beating it to the
> > punch.
> >
> > "Danny Sanders" wrote:
> >
> >> > Systems can ping any host by name or IP
> >>
> >> When you get the message about no domain controller found can you ping
> >> the
> >> DNS server at that time?
> >>
> >> hth
> >> DDS
> >>
> >> "Darren Brinksneader" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> >> wrote
> >> in message news:B7A44247-72B6-46B6-8348-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Let me elaborate a little more...
> >> >
> >> > Systems joined domain with no problem
> >> > Systems can ping any host by name or IP
> >> > I can logon to the systems and connect to shares on the network.
> >> >
> >> > From what I have read, it seems that some GBit cards take longer to go
> >> > through the intitalization process, so netlogon bet it to the punch.
> >> >
> >> > This holds true, because I can restart the netlogon serivce and get no
> >> > additional errors.
> >> >
> >> > I have increased the netlogon wait time to 30 seconds (no change)
> >> > I have added dependencies for netlogon such as TermServices, RasMan,
> >> > the
> >> > NIC
> >> > divers, NBT over TCIP, plus more... (no change)
> >> >
> >> > I have installed different versions of drivers for the NICs also.
> >> >
> >> > Any thoughts...
> >> >
> >> > "Danny Sanders" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
> >> >> > request.
> >> >> > This may lead to authentication problems.
> >> >>
> >> >> This sounds like a DNS problem.
> >> >> Post an ipconfig /all from both of the servers.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> hth
> >> >> DDS
> >> >>
> >> >> "Darren Brinksneader" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> >> >> wrote
> >> >> in message news:B13656C9-B700-4B6A-B715-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> > Hello All,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have the following configuration on two different servers, that
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > same issue:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterrise with SP2
> >> >> > Dell PowerEdge 2950 with Broadcom ( BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE (NDIS
> >> >> > VBD
> >> >> > Client))
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I get the following error on both:
> >> >> > "This computer was not able to set up a secure session with a domain
> >> >> > controller in domain APH due to the following:
> >> >> > There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
> >> >> > request.
> >> >> > This may lead to authentication problems. Make sure that this
> >> >> > computer
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > connected to the network. If the problem persists, please contact
> >> >> > your
> >> >> > domain
> >> >> > administrator.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ADDITIONAL INFO
> >> >> > If this computer is a domain controller for the specified domain, it
> >> >> > sets
> >> >> > up
> >> >> > the secure session to the primary domain controller emulator in the
> >> >> > specified
> >> >> > domain. Otherwise, this computer sets up the secure session to any
> >> >> > domain
> >> >> > controller in the specified domain."
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>