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Aamir Mahmood
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      04-15-2004, 10:30 AM
Hi all,

I have just bought a new Wireless Router from Netgear. Its model is
WGR614 (v4).

I have a notebook with built-in wireless card Broadcom 54g
MaxPerformance 802.11g.

Theoritically, if I select "g only" option in the Wireless
Configuration of the router, my notebook should communicate with my
router on G. But unfortunately it doesn't. It sees the network
available but does not connect to it.

When I select "g and b" option in the Wireless configuration of my
router, my notebook connects to it at 11.0 Mbps.

I don't why I cannot have the benefit of having both G compatible
devices. I don't even know whether the problem is with router or my
wireless card. I have latest drivers for the wireless card.

Can any one give some idea about this? Or am I doing something wrong?

Any suggestion or help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

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Aamir Mahmood.
 
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Jim
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      04-15-2004, 07:10 PM
I'm speculating here, but here's my best guess. I base this on the fact
that when I monitor the wireless channel w/ the client configuration
utility, I can *see* fluctations in the supported speed (108, 54, 11, etc),
literally second by second changes, in realtime.

Since 802.11b and 802.11g share the same frequency, the ability to connect
to one or the other is NOT a function of frequency. It's not as if chosing
one over the other *changes* the frequency, and thus locks out the other.
Instead, it's based on they ability to achieve 'b" or "g" *performance*
levels. Therefore, when you selected 802.11g only, the router/client
determined it could NOT achieve the speed you demanded under the current
conditions (obstacles, distance, interference, etc.), so it refuses to
connect (again, as you directed). However, since it *can* connect at the
802.11b performance level under the current conditions, when you allowed b
*and* g, the router/client says, OK, I can connect at 802.11b performance
levels just fine, so I'll connect.

I believe that the problem, you're interpreting the selection as one of freq
change, but the compatibility is really based on available performance
levels. If the environmental conditions change, you probably *could*
connect as "g" only.

Again, I'm speculating, if I'm way off base, don't hammer me! I bow to your
greater knowledge!

Jim


"Aamir Mahmood" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> I have just bought a new Wireless Router from Netgear. Its model is
> WGR614 (v4).
>
> I have a notebook with built-in wireless card Broadcom 54g
> MaxPerformance 802.11g.
>
> Theoritically, if I select "g only" option in the Wireless
> Configuration of the router, my notebook should communicate with my
> router on G. But unfortunately it doesn't. It sees the network
> available but does not connect to it.
>
> When I select "g and b" option in the Wireless configuration of my
> router, my notebook connects to it at 11.0 Mbps.
>
> I don't why I cannot have the benefit of having both G compatible
> devices. I don't even know whether the problem is with router or my
> wireless card. I have latest drivers for the wireless card.
>
> Can any one give some idea about this? Or am I doing something wrong?
>
> Any suggestion or help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> -
> Aamir Mahmood.



 
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Aamir Mahmood
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      04-16-2004, 05:36 AM
Thank you for your response Jim,

You have some very good points like fluctuations in the supported
speed. But in my case I was sitting next to the router and could only
connect on B.

Thanks,

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Aamir Mahmood.

"Jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<C6Bfc.6346$Yf6.1930@fed1read07>...
> I'm speculating here, but here's my best guess. I base this on the fact
> that when I monitor the wireless channel w/ the client configuration
> utility, I can *see* fluctations in the supported speed (108, 54, 11, etc),
> literally second by second changes, in realtime.
>
> Since 802.11b and 802.11g share the same frequency, the ability to connect
> to one or the other is NOT a function of frequency. It's not as if chosing
> one over the other *changes* the frequency, and thus locks out the other.
> Instead, it's based on they ability to achieve 'b" or "g" *performance*
> levels. Therefore, when you selected 802.11g only, the router/client
> determined it could NOT achieve the speed you demanded under the current
> conditions (obstacles, distance, interference, etc.), so it refuses to
> connect (again, as you directed). However, since it *can* connect at the
> 802.11b performance level under the current conditions, when you allowed b
> *and* g, the router/client says, OK, I can connect at 802.11b performance
> levels just fine, so I'll connect.
>
> I believe that the problem, you're interpreting the selection as one of freq
> change, but the compatibility is really based on available performance
> levels. If the environmental conditions change, you probably *could*
> connect as "g" only.
>
> Again, I'm speculating, if I'm way off base, don't hammer me! I bow to your
> greater knowledge!
>
> Jim
>
>
> "Aamir Mahmood" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have just bought a new Wireless Router from Netgear. Its model is
> > WGR614 (v4).
> >
> > I have a notebook with built-in wireless card Broadcom 54g
> > MaxPerformance 802.11g.
> >
> > Theoritically, if I select "g only" option in the Wireless
> > Configuration of the router, my notebook should communicate with my
> > router on G. But unfortunately it doesn't. It sees the network
> > available but does not connect to it.
> >
> > When I select "g and b" option in the Wireless configuration of my
> > router, my notebook connects to it at 11.0 Mbps.
> >
> > I don't why I cannot have the benefit of having both G compatible
> > devices. I don't even know whether the problem is with router or my
> > wireless card. I have latest drivers for the wireless card.
> >
> > Can any one give some idea about this? Or am I doing something wrong?
> >
> > Any suggestion or help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -
> > Aamir Mahmood.

 
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