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      05-29-2009, 08:56 PM
I was trying to move an xbox 360 to a new location,
and was attempting to re-use an old Linksys WAP11 as a bridge
to our WAP54G.... couldn't get it to work -

After looking at the data stream with our protocol analyzer,
it appeared that the ARP's were getting lost, blocked, or dropped
somewhere..

OK - plan B - always wanted to try some of those powerline adapters...
Found some Netgear XE102 (pair) on eBay - bought it - just plugged them
in...

Work great - I also downloaded the manual & User Utility in case they were
needed.
Was curious about a couple of things - mainly protocol -
so... as usual - fired up the protocol analyzer.

Well - these specific devices are using Appletalk to chat out the world
with Appletalk broadcasts - every 3secs or so - probably for device & user
utility discovery -

Speed - the User Utility displays what speed the "HomePlug" device is
running.
When they are plugged next to each other - I see the rated 14Mbps.
When I move one end to the far side of the house, it drops down to about
3Mbps.

Remember.... these powerline devices are using the AC wires as a electrical
path,
with a carrier to transmit the data across the wires - sorta like DSL -
with your circuit breaker panel acting like the hub -
So - 2 rooms next to each other might have to go all the way to the panel &
back - vs just going next door.



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      05-29-2009, 09:24 PM
oops -
the Appletalk broadcast were actually from another device -
a Netgear Print Server - advertising it's "services" -

"ps56k" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I was trying to move an xbox 360 to a new location,
> and was attempting to re-use an old Linksys WAP11 as a bridge
> to our WAP54G.... couldn't get it to work -
>
> After looking at the data stream with our protocol analyzer,
> it appeared that the ARP's were getting lost, blocked, or dropped
> somewhere..
>
> OK - plan B - always wanted to try some of those powerline adapters...
> Found some Netgear XE102 (pair) on eBay - bought it - just plugged them
> in...
>
> Work great - I also downloaded the manual & User Utility in case they were
> needed.
> Was curious about a couple of things - mainly protocol -
> so... as usual - fired up the protocol analyzer.
>
> Well - these specific devices are using Appletalk to chat out the world
> with Appletalk broadcasts - every 3secs or so - probably for device & user
> utility discovery -


-------------->>>> oops -
the Appletalk broadcast were from a different device -
a Netgear Print Server - broadcasting it's "services" -
--------------------------------

> Speed - the User Utility displays what speed the "HomePlug" device is
> running.
> When they are plugged next to each other - I see the rated 14Mbps.
> When I move one end to the far side of the house, it drops down to about
> 3Mbps.
>
> Remember.... these powerline devices are using the AC wires as a
> electrical path,
> with a carrier to transmit the data across the wires - sorta like DSL -
> with your circuit breaker panel acting like the hub -
> So - 2 rooms next to each other might have to go all the way to the panel
> & back - vs just going next door.
>



 
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      05-29-2009, 10:27 PM
ps56k wrote:

> I was trying to move an xbox 360 to a new location,
> and was attempting to re-use an old Linksys WAP11 as a bridge
> to our WAP54G.... couldn't get it to work -
>
> After looking at the data stream with our protocol analyzer,
> it appeared that the ARP's were getting lost, blocked, or dropped
> somewhere..
>
> OK - plan B - always wanted to try some of those powerline adapters...
> Found some Netgear XE102 (pair) on eBay - bought it - just plugged
> them in...
>
> Work great - I also downloaded the manual & User Utility in case they
> were needed.
> Was curious about a couple of things - mainly protocol -
> so... as usual - fired up the protocol analyzer.
>
> Well - these specific devices are using Appletalk to chat out the
> world with Appletalk broadcasts - every 3secs or so - probably for
> device & user utility discovery -
>
> Speed - the User Utility displays what speed the "HomePlug" device is
> running.
> When they are plugged next to each other - I see the rated 14Mbps.
> When I move one end to the far side of the house, it drops down to
> about 3Mbps.
>
> Remember.... these powerline devices are using the AC wires as a
> electrical path,
> with a carrier to transmit the data across the wires - sorta like DSL
> - with your circuit breaker panel acting like the hub -
> So - 2 rooms next to each other might have to go all the way to the
> panel & back - vs just going next door.


Do you mean Megabits (Mbps) or Megabytes (MBps) ?

If it's only giving 3 Mbps then its not worth having.

Rob
 
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      06-01-2009, 05:55 PM

"ps56k" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:y_XTl.17967$%(E-Mail Removed)...
>I was trying to move an xbox 360 to a new location,
> and was attempting to re-use an old Linksys WAP11 as a bridge
> to our WAP54G.... couldn't get it to work -
>
> After looking at the data stream with our protocol analyzer,
> it appeared that the ARP's were getting lost, blocked, or dropped
> somewhere..
>
> OK - plan B - always wanted to try some of those powerline adapters...
> Found some Netgear XE102 (pair) on eBay - bought it - just plugged them
> in...
>
> Work great - I also downloaded the manual & User Utility in case they were
> needed.
> Was curious about a couple of things - mainly protocol -
> so... as usual - fired up the protocol analyzer.
>
> Well - these specific devices are using Appletalk to chat out the world
> with Appletalk broadcasts - every 3secs or so - probably for device & user
> utility discovery -
>
> Speed - the User Utility displays what speed the "HomePlug" device is
> running.
> When they are plugged next to each other - I see the rated 14Mbps.
> When I move one end to the far side of the house, it drops down to about
> 3Mbps.
>
> Remember.... these powerline devices are using the AC wires as a
> electrical path,
> with a carrier to transmit the data across the wires - sorta like DSL -
> with your circuit breaker panel acting like the hub -
> So - 2 rooms next to each other might have to go all the way to the panel
> & back - vs just going next door.
>


here's a link to some of the technical background
to the HomePlug technical workings...
http://www.commsdesign.com/main/2000/12/0012feat5.htm


 
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