NETGEAR up to no good?

I've replaced my DLINK router with this product of Netgear's, wpn824.
I noticed it isnt better the slightest also at some point its eve
behind my old one.

However the most annoying issue with this router is, I cannot find an
option to disable logging. Is it just me or does Netgear really provid
no option for this what so ever

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rabblerouser <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>I've replaced my DLINK router with this product of Netgear's, wpn824.
>I noticed it isnt better the slightest also at some point its even
>behind my old one.

You might try operating it horizontally instead of vertically as
Netgear idiotically has it pictured in their literature. The steered
antenna array doesn't work mounted vertically. How it works:
<http://www.ruckuswireless.com/technology/beamflex.php>
I don't consider beam steering to be "true" MIMO.

Review and testing of the WPN824:
<http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24729&pa ge=0&Itemid=96>
Not so wonderful. I also had problems with this unit that went away
with a firmware update. What manner of performance (range/speed) were
you expecting? Through how many walls?

>However the most annoying issue with this router is, I cannot find any
>option to disable logging. Is it just me or does Netgear really provide
>no option for this what so ever?

Why would you want to disable logging? The logs are a FIFO and are
vaporized when the buffer fills. They stay local on the router unless
you redirect or email them somewhere. Are you afraid that someone
might login to the router and find out where you've been surfing? If
so, set a router password or just power cycle the router after your
illegal P2P filesharing session.

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Thanks for the helpful reply, Jeff.

The reason why I want to disable logging is that I'm doing sensitiv
work at the moment, and the last thing I want right now is someon
tracking down the websites I'm visiting intentionally o
unintentionally. As the router is in use by 5-6 other people I canno
really deny access to it, tho noone would mind if I disabled th
logging feature

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rabblerouser <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Thanks for the helpful reply, Jeff.
>
>The reason why I want to disable logging is that I'm doing sensitive
>work at the moment, and the last thing I want right now is someone
>tracking down the websites I'm visiting intentionally or
>unintentionally. As the router is in use by 5-6 other people I cannot
>really deny access to it, tho noone would mind if I disabled the
>logging feature.

Note: I hate the word "access" because it's so vague and ambiguous.

Your 5-6 users can "access" or use the router all they want to get to
the internet or wherever. However, unless they have the router admin
password, they cannot "access" the web based configuration pages and
the log files within the router. Of course, that assumes that you
haven't granted "access" to these users to the router configs.
However, if these users can "access" the router configuration pages,
then they certainly can "access" the log files.

As I recall, the various Netgear routers have a "clear logs" button.
You could write a script in your favorite scripting language, to
regularly login to the router, go to the log page, hit the "clear
logs" button, logout, and exit. This may cause some contention
problems with other users that may simultaneously "access" the router
configs. Only one web connection at a time. Otherwise, just cycle
the power erratically to flush the logs.

You can also poison the log file by filling it with useless entries.
Hitting a few thousand random web pages will surely fush the FIFO
buffer and drive any snoopers nuts.

Also, I vaguely recall that some manufacturers have an oddity in the
logging. I don't know if Netgear qualifies. If you setup a syslog
server on the log page, the local logging window shows blank. It
becomes an either/or situation. Either local or remote logging, not
both. If you point to a non-existent syslog server, nothing
detrimental happens. You can also point it to your own IP address.
However, if your users have "access" to the router config, they can
defeat this trick.

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> The reason why I want to disable logging is that I'm doing sensitive
> work at the moment, and the last thing I want right now is someone
> tracking down the websites I'm visiting intentionally or
> unintentionally.

Yeah right. What'd ya wanna bet it's porn, cheating on a spouse or he's
looking for another job while at the current one?

If the others don't have admin access to the router there's not much to be
worried about. And if it's work-related then you ought to have management
support for keeping it away from other's prying eyes. Otherwise, go wank on
your own time.

You do something like setup a VPN at home and tunnel back to it from work.
That'd route all your internet traffic back home, through the VPN, and not
through the local network. There would be a bit of a performance penalty
due to the effort to tunnel back home, out to the net and then back again.
But there's always a balance to be struck....

There are anonymizing proxies too. But they're less than effective than a
VPN to 'hide' the traffic.

-Bill Kearney