Netgear switch - managed vs unmanaged

Need a new wired switch.

Going for netgear: FS116 - unmanaged vs FSM726 managed

Any thoughts on if i buy a managed one, would this allow me to network all
pc's but stop my sons one from accessing the internet?.

I am only familar with the unmanaged plug and go switches

Mike wrote:
> Need a new wired switch.
>
> Going for netgear: FS116 - unmanaged vs FSM726 managed
>
> Any thoughts on if i buy a managed one, would this allow me to network all
> pc's but stop my sons one from accessing the internet?.
>
> I am only familar with the unmanaged plug and go switches
>
>

Wrong kind of management for blocking traffic - that would need to be
done at/by your router, so go for an unmanaged switch and check your
router's features.

Have a read:

http://www.netgear.com/Products/Swit...es/FSM726.aspx

Cheers

L3K

"Linker3000" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Mike wrote:
>> Need a new wired switch.
>>
>> Going for netgear: FS116 - unmanaged vs FSM726 managed
>>
>> Any thoughts on if i buy a managed one, would this allow me to network
>> all pc's but stop my sons one from accessing the internet?.
>>
>> I am only familar with the unmanaged plug and go switches
>
> Wrong kind of management for blocking traffic - that would need to be done
> at/by your router, so go for an unmanaged switch and check your router's
> features.
>
> Have a read:
>
> http://www.netgear.com/Products/Swit...es/FSM726.aspx
>
> Cheers
>
> L3K



It a bit more complicated as we have shared internet connection in the
building so i have no control over the router.
We plug into a wall socket and simply point our pc's to the default gateway
xxx.xxx.xxx.1 which is the router in the building.
Any ideas on the best route?

Mike wrote:
> "Linker3000" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:fo8hp9$7iv$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Mike wrote:
>>> Need a new wired switch.
>>>
>>> Going for netgear: FS116 - unmanaged vs FSM726 managed
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on if i buy a managed one, would this allow me to network
>>> all pc's but stop my sons one from accessing the internet?.
>>>
>>> I am only familar with the unmanaged plug and go switches
>> Wrong kind of management for blocking traffic - that would need to be done
>> at/by your router, so go for an unmanaged switch and check your router's
>> features.
>>
>> Have a read:
>>
>> http://www.netgear.com/Products/Swit...es/FSM726.aspx
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> L3K
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> It a bit more complicated as we have shared internet connection in the
> building so i have no control over the router.
> We plug into a wall socket and simply point our pc's to the default gateway
> xxx.xxx.xxx.1 which is the router in the building.
> Any ideas on the best route?
>
>
>
>
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Cant the FSM726 achieve the OP requirement by setting
up 2 port based VLANS. One including all PCs, the other including the
internet connection port and the PCs allowed to use the internet.

Of course this wouldnt stop someone with physical access to the switch
bypassing this block unless you can restrict each port to a specific MAC
address ( which I think you can do) ??

Not an expert in this area so only a tentative suggestion !

"robert" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Mike wrote:
>> "Linker3000" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:fo8hp9$7iv$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Mike wrote:
>>>> Need a new wired switch.
>>>>
>>>> Going for netgear: FS116 - unmanaged vs FSM726 managed
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts on if i buy a managed one, would this allow me to network
>>>> all pc's but stop my sons one from accessing the internet?.
>>>>
>>>> I am only familar with the unmanaged plug and go switches
>>> Wrong kind of management for blocking traffic - that would need to be
>>> done at/by your router, so go for an unmanaged switch and check your
>>> router's features.
>>>
>>> Have a read:
>>>
>>> http://www.netgear.com/Products/Swit...es/FSM726.aspx
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> L3K
>>
>>
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>> It a bit more complicated as we have shared internet connection in the
>> building so i have no control over the router.
>> We plug into a wall socket and simply point our pc's to the default
>> gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.1 which is the router in the building.
>> Any ideas on the best route?
>>
>>
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>>
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> Cant the FSM726 achieve the OP requirement by setting
> up 2 port based VLANS. One including all PCs, the other including the
> internet connection port and the PCs allowed to use the internet.
>
> Of course this wouldnt stop someone with physical access to the switch
> bypassing this block unless you can restrict each port to a specific MAC
> address ( which I think you can do) ??
>
> Not an expert in this area so only a tentative suggestion !

Can anyone elaborate/confirm?.
I see netgear website also have hardware firewalls.
I wonder if a solution could be to have a netgear firewall and a netgear
unmanaged switch.

>>>
>> Cant the FSM726 achieve the OP requirement by setting
>> up 2 port based VLANS. One including all PCs, the other including the
>> internet connection port and the PCs allowed to use the internet.
>>
>> Of course this wouldnt stop someone with physical access to the switch
>> bypassing this block unless you can restrict each port to a specific MAC
>> address ( which I think you can do) ??
>>
>> Not an expert in this area so only a tentative suggestion !
>
> Can anyone elaborate/confirm?.
> I see netgear website also have hardware firewalls.
> I wonder if a solution could be to have a netgear firewall and a netgear
> unmanaged switch.
>
>

Possibly - but then you bugger up (or complicate) inter-operability
between the PCs (such as printer or disk sharing, if needed) and the OP
implied they just wanted controlled access to the Internet rather than
segregating the PCs.

One idea with a good price that springs to mind is a router running
dd-wrt firmware. Using dd-wrt's access controls will allow specific
machines to be blocked from the Internet at given times (or 24/7) - eg:

dd-wrt loaded onto a Linksys WRT54GL (£40 for the router AND you get
wifi! dd-wrt is free)

Just stick the router between the Internet gateway and all the PCs. The
WRT54Gl has 4 LAN and 1 WAN port so it's ready to go for up to 4 PCs. If
more are to be linked, add an (unmanaged!) switch.

Just to clarify: My comment about complicating things was aimed at the
idea of VLANs.

A Netgear firewall is an option (I use the Prosafe firewalls) but doing
it with a Linksys box and dd-wrt would be cheaper.

Linker3000 wrote:
> Just to clarify: My comment about complicating things was aimed at the
> idea of VLANs.
>
> A Netgear firewall is an option (I use the Prosafe firewalls) but doing
> it with a Linksys box and dd-wrt would be cheaper.
>
If All the Pcs and printers are in one VLAN would there be any problems
with interoperability between them ?

As any port can be in more than 1 VLAN , one can visualise the setup
like overlapping Venn diagrams.

Setting up the VLANs looks from the user guide to be simple using the
graphics interface.

I've only had a little experience of setting up a VLAN several years ago
but their advantage seems that they work at switch level and dont
involve the network settings of the PCs themselves.