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Dee
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      05-31-2005, 09:14 PM
I have a netgear all in one wireless router / modem and a belkin wifi
router (no modem) both have 3 ethernet ports

is it possible to have the netgear downstairs at the master socket where
the telephone line signal is best and use the belkin upstairs to recieve
internet wirelessly from the netgear and distribute on ethernet to 3
PC's upstairs?
 
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Kinell
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      05-31-2005, 10:06 PM
Dee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:429cd3b8$0
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> downstairs at the master socket where
> the telephone line signal is best


Are you expecting the signal to deteriorate significantly between
two floors? [hint: the signal has already travelled several km from
the exchange...]

I doubt the Netgear and Belkin can operate as a wireless bridge,
which is what you propose.

Suggest you consider:

1) If you have a phone extension socket upstairs, locate the
Netgear there and connect your PCs via cables.

OR

2) Locate the Netgear downstairs and fit wireless adapters to your
PCs upstairs.

Either way, sell the Belkin on eBay.
 
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Dee
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      06-01-2005, 12:52 PM
Kinell wrote:
> Dee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:429cd3b8$0
> $548$(E-Mail Removed):
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>>downstairs at the master socket where
>>the telephone line signal is best



There does seem to be a big difference in line quality from room to room

But I've been experimenting today and trying out different things and it
may be due to electrical interferance?

For instance if I locate the Netgear ADSL Router / Modem in my sister's
room it seems fine, but when I start turning on things in her room the
noise db drops .. downstairs there's not much electrical stuff around.

Same in my parents rooms.

Would a better quality telephone cable help? better shielded perhaps?

I know Belkin do some very good quality cables.
 
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      06-01-2005, 07:55 PM
Dee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Kinell wrote:
>> Dee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> news:429cd3b8$0 $548$(E-Mail Removed):
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>>>downstairs at the master socket where
>>>the telephone line signal is best

>
>
> There does seem to be a big difference in line quality from room
> to room
>
> But I've been experimenting today and trying out different
> things and it may be due to electrical interferance?
>
> For instance if I locate the Netgear ADSL Router / Modem in my
> sister's room it seems fine, but when I start turning on things
> in her room the noise db drops .. downstairs there's not much
> electrical stuff around.
>
> Same in my parents rooms.
>
> Would a better quality telephone cable help? better shielded
> perhaps?
>
> I know Belkin do some very good quality cables.


Is there actually a problem? Are you sure the difference in noise
level is significant to real-world performance?
 
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Dee
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      06-05-2005, 03:45 PM
I've been given another Belkin Router from my friend and it's an all in
one model

I tried this combined ADSL Modem / Router / Wifi Belkin F5D7630

And I seem to be getting much better noise figures

The Netgear was dropping to as low as 1db ro 3db upstairs in my bedroom
and disconnecting

with the help of this site I found out the hidden menu that allow you to
see the connection status and it gives the following numbers

http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/hwNotesReviews.html

I've used the same ADSL Line filter and cable fromthe Netgear and this
gives much better results - does this mean my Netgear may be faulty?




ADSL Status Information

Date Rate: Stream Type
Interleaved Channel Data Rate
Fast Channel Data Rate

Up Stream
0 (Kbps.)
288 (Kbps.)

Down Stream
0 (Kbps.)
2272 (Kbps.)


Operation Data / Defect Indication: Operation Data
Upstream
Downstream

Noise Margin
18 dB
11 dB

Output Power
12 dBm
20 dBm

Attenuation
31.5 dB
54 dB
 
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Dee
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      06-05-2005, 03:45 PM
I've been given another Belkin Router from my friend and it's an all in
one model

I tried this combined ADSL Modem / Router / Wifi Belkin F5D7630

And I seem to be getting much better noise figures

The Netgear was dropping to as low as 1db to 3db upstairs in my bedroom
and disconnecting

with the help of this site I found out the hidden menu that allow you to
see the connection status and it gives the following numbers

http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/hwNotesReviews.html

I've used the same ADSL Line filter and cable fromthe Netgear and this
gives much better results - does this mean my Netgear may be faulty?




ADSL Status Information

Date Rate: Stream Type
Interleaved Channel Data Rate
Fast Channel Data Rate

Up Stream
0 (Kbps.)
288 (Kbps.)

Down Stream
0 (Kbps.)
2272 (Kbps.)


Operation Data / Defect Indication: Operation Data
Upstream
Downstream

Noise Margin
18 dB
11 dB

Output Power
12 dBm
20 dBm

Attenuation
31.5 dB
54 dB
 
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Peter M
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      06-05-2005, 05:40 PM
On 05 Jun 2005 16:45, Dee wrote:

>http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/hwNotesReviews.html


If anyone else is planning to do something similar, I'd suggest they use a
'hosts' entry so they can define the router IP address locally and give any
URLs in the form http://myrouter/page_name.htm

That would allow someone else to define (in their hosts file) the IP for
'myrouter' and not be tied to using 192.168.2.1 (for example :-) Peter

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