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Shadowking
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      10-23-2003, 11:00 AM
My friend has a small LAN; 1 laptop (XP), 1 pc (XP), Netcomm YML629
AP/Router.

The laptop runs fine using a wireless connection (WEP is on) and the PC
connect to the AP using a standard cat5 cable. We want to make the PC
wireless, so we got a Netcomm NP7042 wireless USB adapter.

Problem is that nothing works when using the wireless adapter. I cannot
even ping the AP. Drivers are installed ok and the wireless adapter even
picks up an IP from the AP *as long as the ethernet connection is still
present* - once we disconnect the ethernet nothing works.

Does this have anything to do with giving the pc a WEP key? and if so how
do I go about this?

I am a bit naive with all this WEP stuff.

Thanks,

 
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      10-23-2003, 11:32 PM
Running a wifi and Ethernet adapter on the same network segment at the same
time is probably not a good idea. This makes your host "multihomed" on the
same segment, which can create problems for some applications. You should
have no problem running the Ethernet to a different router (different
network segment), but in my experience with my own system, Ethernet and wifi
to the same router at the same time is asking for trouble.

But I don't think that's your problem. If the laptop is working, then you
must have gone through WEP configuration on it. If WEP is running on the
router, you must have done some config there too (it's never on by default).
The PC's adapter must have come with some kind of config utility. You need
to find the menus that talk about WEP. You need to turn on WEP, and add
exactly the same key you put on the router. If the router key was entered in
hex, then be sure to enter the key on the PC in hex and not in ASCII.

If your router does not broadcast its SSID, you won't see it on the site
survey list unless you explicitly name the SSID you want to connect to in
the connection dialog. Also be sure that you have the network type set to
infrastructure (the other choice will be ad-hoc), and if it gives you a
choice about scanning, choose autoscan. I'd choose Open Authentication, at
least until you get WEP working.

"Shadowking" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> My friend has a small LAN; 1 laptop (XP), 1 pc (XP), Netcomm YML629
> AP/Router.
>
> The laptop runs fine using a wireless connection (WEP is on) and the PC
> connect to the AP using a standard cat5 cable. We want to make the PC
> wireless, so we got a Netcomm NP7042 wireless USB adapter.
>
> Problem is that nothing works when using the wireless adapter. I cannot
> even ping the AP. Drivers are installed ok and the wireless adapter even
> picks up an IP from the AP *as long as the ethernet connection is still
> present* - once we disconnect the ethernet nothing works.
>
> Does this have anything to do with giving the pc a WEP key? and if so how
> do I go about this?
>
> I am a bit naive with all this WEP stuff.
>
> Thanks,
>



 
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      10-24-2003, 06:15 AM
Thanks for your reply Gary. I didn't setup WEP - someone else did. Where
do I locate the WEP key? Is it in the router setup ?

regards


"gary" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Running a wifi and Ethernet adapter on the same network segment at the
> same time is probably not a good idea. This makes your host
> "multihomed" on the same segment, which can create problems for some
> applications. You should have no problem running the Ethernet to a
> different router (different network segment), but in my experience
> with my own system, Ethernet and wifi to the same router at the same
> time is asking for trouble.
>
> But I don't think that's your problem. If the laptop is working, then
> you must have gone through WEP configuration on it. If WEP is running
> on the router, you must have done some config there too (it's never on
> by default). The PC's adapter must have come with some kind of config
> utility. You need to find the menus that talk about WEP. You need to
> turn on WEP, and add exactly the same key you put on the router. If
> the router key was entered in hex, then be sure to enter the key on
> the PC in hex and not in ASCII.
>
> If your router does not broadcast its SSID, you won't see it on the
> site survey list unless you explicitly name the SSID you want to
> connect to in the connection dialog. Also be sure that you have the
> network type set to infrastructure (the other choice will be ad-hoc),
> and if it gives you a choice about scanning, choose autoscan. I'd
> choose Open Authentication, at least until you get WEP working.
>
> "Shadowking" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:3f97b4c0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> My friend has a small LAN; 1 laptop (XP), 1 pc (XP), Netcomm YML629
>> AP/Router.
>>
>> The laptop runs fine using a wireless connection (WEP is on) and the
>> PC connect to the AP using a standard cat5 cable. We want to make the
>> PC wireless, so we got a Netcomm NP7042 wireless USB adapter.
>>
>> Problem is that nothing works when using the wireless adapter. I
>> cannot even ping the AP. Drivers are installed ok and the wireless
>> adapter even picks up an IP from the AP *as long as the ethernet
>> connection is still present* - once we disconnect the ethernet
>> nothing works.
>>
>> Does this have anything to do with giving the pc a WEP key? and if so
>> how do I go about this?
>>
>> I am a bit naive with all this WEP stuff.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>

>
>
>


 
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      10-24-2003, 09:12 PM
You might be able to get the key from either the laptop or the router config
page. Every vendor has a different user interface, so you'll have to hunt
around until you find the right screen.

Unfortunately, some vendors don't display the actual key value, as an extra
security measure. My D-link router and laptop config utility both refuse to
show me the key values - they appear x'ed out. To ensure that all keys are
identical, you may have to reconfigure all devices to some new value .

Another note - you may see a list of up to 4 key entries, and you may be
given a choice to enter in ASCII or HEX. You will also have a choice of
keylength.

To keep it simple, I recommend you configure all keylists on all devices to
have only one key entry. I also suggest you use ASCII instead of HEX, since
it's easier to type without error (the hex strings are twice as long). Any
string will do, but make it something that's not a dictionary word, and
include some numbers and special characters in it. Choose the longest
keylength supported by *all* of the devices - this is important - and
remember to set that keylength on each device.

"Shadowking" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks for your reply Gary. I didn't setup WEP - someone else did. Where
> do I locate the WEP key? Is it in the router setup ?
>
> regards
>
>
> "gary" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:uyZlb.1057$(E-Mail Removed) :
>
> > Running a wifi and Ethernet adapter on the same network segment at the
> > same time is probably not a good idea. This makes your host
> > "multihomed" on the same segment, which can create problems for some
> > applications. You should have no problem running the Ethernet to a
> > different router (different network segment), but in my experience
> > with my own system, Ethernet and wifi to the same router at the same
> > time is asking for trouble.
> >
> > But I don't think that's your problem. If the laptop is working, then
> > you must have gone through WEP configuration on it. If WEP is running
> > on the router, you must have done some config there too (it's never on
> > by default). The PC's adapter must have come with some kind of config
> > utility. You need to find the menus that talk about WEP. You need to
> > turn on WEP, and add exactly the same key you put on the router. If
> > the router key was entered in hex, then be sure to enter the key on
> > the PC in hex and not in ASCII.
> >
> > If your router does not broadcast its SSID, you won't see it on the
> > site survey list unless you explicitly name the SSID you want to
> > connect to in the connection dialog. Also be sure that you have the
> > network type set to infrastructure (the other choice will be ad-hoc),
> > and if it gives you a choice about scanning, choose autoscan. I'd
> > choose Open Authentication, at least until you get WEP working.
> >
> > "Shadowking" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:3f97b4c0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> My friend has a small LAN; 1 laptop (XP), 1 pc (XP), Netcomm YML629
> >> AP/Router.
> >>
> >> The laptop runs fine using a wireless connection (WEP is on) and the
> >> PC connect to the AP using a standard cat5 cable. We want to make the
> >> PC wireless, so we got a Netcomm NP7042 wireless USB adapter.
> >>
> >> Problem is that nothing works when using the wireless adapter. I
> >> cannot even ping the AP. Drivers are installed ok and the wireless
> >> adapter even picks up an IP from the AP *as long as the ethernet
> >> connection is still present* - once we disconnect the ethernet
> >> nothing works.
> >>
> >> Does this have anything to do with giving the pc a WEP key? and if so
> >> how do I go about this?
> >>
> >> I am a bit naive with all this WEP stuff.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>

> >
> >
> >

>



 
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