Net View & WINS on 2003 Server

I have an application that uses netbios to display a list of computers on my
network.

I have multiple subnets and all the machines on all the subnets are
registered with my WINS server.

When I run "net view" or go to my network places I only see the local
subnet.

I need to be able to see the entire network.

Any ideas?

Sean Johnson

Browsing across subnets requires at least 1 DMB or domain
master browser. By default in W2k3 the DMB is the PDC
emulator role holder. Each subnet will have a segment master
browser (SMB) to gather the local list and pass back to the DMB
of the domain. The DMB will gather the lists from all SMBs and
merge them as well as querying WINS for other DMBs to get their
domain list.

The easiest way to troubleshoot browse related issues is to download
and run the following tool:

Description of NetBIOS Browsing Console (Browcon.exe)
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;818092

Post the output.

"Sean Johnson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
> I have an application that uses netbios to display a list of computers on
my
> network.
>
> I have multiple subnets and all the machines on all the subnets are
> registered with my WINS server.
>
> When I run "net view" or go to my network places I only see the local
> subnet.
>
> I need to be able to see the entire network.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Sean Johnson
>
>

Michael,

I ran Browcon and all the results are:-

Attempting to find the PDC/Domain Master Browser for domain: CLA_LON

PDC/Domain Master Browser: \\FSMO01-LON

The PDC identified in the 'Network Profile' appears to be the same as the
Domain Master Browser currently found on the network
There are currently 1 subnet Master Browsers on the network for the
specified domain

There are currently 9 subnet Backup Master Browsers on the network for the
specified domain
Processing local_subnet...


Attempting to find local subnet Master Browser...
Master Browser: \\FSMO01-LON

Backup Master Browsers:
\\EX01-LON
\\FSMO01-LON
\\ACC01-LON
Note: if these systems are not on the local subnet, then no Backup Master
Browsers exist on the logical local subnet. i.e. no systems answered a
broadcasted 'get backup list request.' In this case, Backup Master Browsers
are retrieved from the Domain Master Browser's current list.

Checking the local subnet master browser...

Checking browse list on \\FSMO01-LON for the missing system called DC01-YORK

DC01-YORK was NOT found in the browse list

The subnet master browser on the client's subnet does not have the missing
system in its browse list. i.e. the client that can't see the missing
system in its browse list - that client's master browser does not have the
missing system in its browse list.

See the HTML report for troubleshooting steps.

Processing remote subnet called york...
Successfully connected to agent on TCP port 49911
Querying agent...

Subnet master browser on agent's subnet: \\DC01-YORK

Backup Master Browsers on agent's subnet:
\\DC01-YORK

Checking browse list on \\DC01-YORK for the missing system called DC01-YORK

DC01-YORK was found in the browse list

Checking domain master browser's list...
Checking browse list on \\FSMO01-LON for the missing system called DC01-YORK

DC01-YORK was NOT found in the browse list

Non of the possible causes that it suggests are correct.

Any other Ideas

Regards

Sean

"Michael Giorgio - MS MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Browsing across subnets requires at least 1 DMB or domain
> master browser. By default in W2k3 the DMB is the PDC
> emulator role holder. Each subnet will have a segment master
> browser (SMB) to gather the local list and pass back to the DMB
> of the domain. The DMB will gather the lists from all SMBs and
> merge them as well as querying WINS for other DMBs to get their
> domain list.
>
> The easiest way to troubleshoot browse related issues is to download
> and run the following tool:
>
> Description of NetBIOS Browsing Console (Browcon.exe)
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;818092
>
> Post the output.
>
> "Sean Johnson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
>> I have an application that uses netbios to display a list of computers on
> my
>> network.
>>
>> I have multiple subnets and all the machines on all the subnets are
>> registered with my WINS server.
>>
>> When I run "net view" or go to my network places I only see the local
>> subnet.
>>
>> I need to be able to see the entire network.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Sean Johnson
>>
>>
>
>

Can you successfully map to a share on FSMO01-LON
from DC01-YORK and vice versa. First by name then
by tcp/ip address. If either fails then post the error.

"Sean Johnson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
> Backup Master Browsers on agent's subnet:
> \\DC01-YORK
>
> Checking browse list on \\DC01-YORK for the missing system called
DC01-YORK
>
> DC01-YORK was found in the browse list

Can map both ways using netbios and IP address

can also net view \\Machine-name both ways

Sean


"Michael Giorgio - MS MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Can you successfully map to a share on FSMO01-LON
> from DC01-YORK and vice versa. First by name then
> by tcp/ip address. If either fails then post the error.
>
> "Sean Johnson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
>> Backup Master Browsers on agent's subnet:
>> \\DC01-YORK
>>
>> Checking browse list on \\DC01-YORK for the missing system called
> DC01-YORK
>>
>> DC01-YORK was found in the browse list
>
>

What exactly is seperating the subnets e.g., router or computer
acting as a router? How many subnets? Any multihomed
machines e.g., 2 NICs?

"Sean Johnson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
> Can map both ways using netbios and IP address
>
> can also net view \\Machine-name both ways
>

Michael,

There are 13 Subnets in 13 sites all are connected via VPN tunnels in a hub
and spoke configuration to the main site.

The main site has 2 IAS RRAS servers acting as routers both are mutihomed
with 2 NIC's, 1 RRAS server hosts connections to 5 of the subnets and the
other to the rest.

The VPN Network Interfaces on both ends of each connection are set to use
TCP/IP File and print sharing for microsoft networks and Client for
mictosoft networks.

There in 1 Wins Server in the main site for all the network and it has
registrations for all the servers in all the remote sites, all clients and
servers are set to use that server for WINS

If I do a net view on the WINS server I still only get the list of machines
in the local subnet

Sean

"Michael Giorgio - MS MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> What exactly is seperating the subnets e.g., router or computer
> acting as a router? How many subnets? Any multihomed
> machines e.g., 2 NICs?
>
> "Sean Johnson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
>> Can map both ways using netbios and IP address
>>
>> can also net view \\Machine-name both ways
>>
>
>

"Sean Johnson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
> Michael,
>
> There are 13 Subnets in 13 sites all are connected via VPN tunnels in a
hub
> and spoke configuration to the main site.
>
> The main site has 2 IAS RRAS servers acting as routers both are mutihomed
> with 2 NIC's, 1 RRAS server hosts connections to 5 of the subnets and the
> other to the rest.

If either of your IAS RRAS servers are holding the PDC emulator
role the results you see are expected.. The multihomed domain
master browser will retain a seperate list for each segment rather
than merge the entires.. Move the role to a DC which is not
multihomed.

The PDC Emulator is held by a DC that is not one of the IAS RRAS Server and
although it has 3 NIC's only 1 is enabled- both IAS RRAS servers are member
servers not DC's

"Michael Giorgio - MS MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Sean Johnson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
>> Michael,
>>
>> There are 13 Subnets in 13 sites all are connected via VPN tunnels in a
> hub
>> and spoke configuration to the main site.
>>
>> The main site has 2 IAS RRAS servers acting as routers both are mutihomed
>> with 2 NIC's, 1 RRAS server hosts connections to 5 of the subnets and the
>> other to the rest.
>
> If either of your IAS RRAS servers are holding the PDC emulator
> role the results you see are expected.. The multihomed domain
> master browser will retain a seperate list for each segment rather
> than merge the entires.. Move the role to a DC which is not
> multihomed.
>
>
>

The only other reason this would occur is if NetBIOS isn't
enabled. This would prevent the browse packets from
traversing your routers.. Sorry I haven't gotten back to
you sooner on this one..

"Sean Johnson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
> The PDC Emulator is held by a DC that is not one of the IAS RRAS Server
and
> although it has 3 NIC's only 1 is enabled- both IAS RRAS servers are
member
> servers not DC's