net.stumbler

where can i find a good tutorial about Net.Stubler??

Thanks
Vinnie

On 9 Aug 2006 20:11:06 -0700, "Vinnie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>where can i find a good tutorial about Net.Stubler??

<http://www.netstumbler.com/faqs/>

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John Navas ha scritto:

> On 9 Aug 2006 20:11:06 -0700, "Vinnie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> <(E-Mail Removed) .com>:
>
> >where can i find a good tutorial about Net.Stubler??
>
> <http://www.netstumbler.com/faqs/>
>

Thanks, however i asked for a tutorial not really for the faqs.
Vinnie

Vinnie wrote:
> John Navas ha scritto:
>
>> On 9 Aug 2006 20:11:06 -0700, "Vinnie" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote in <(E-Mail Removed) .com>:
>>
>>> where can i find a good tutorial about Net.Stubler??
>>
>> <http://www.netstumbler.com/faqs/>
>>
>
> Thanks, however i asked for a tutorial not really for the faqs.
> Vinnie

Not being sarcastic, but have you tried the help file that comes with it?
I've never seen a tutorial for it.

Louie
Gainesville, FL

> where can i find a good tutorial about Net.Stubler??

There isn't a tutorial. The program's function is pretty clear. It sniffs
the airwaves and shows you what it finds. The netstumbler website, it's
docs and forum, are about all that exists to cover it. And they're pretty
much sufficient. It might be fair to say that netstumbler isn't something
'mere mortals' are ever going to need bothering with. As a result there's
not a 'netstumbler for dummies' resource.

-Bill Kearney

"Bill Kearney" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>> where can i find a good tutorial about Net.Stubler??
>
>There isn't a tutorial. The program's function is pretty clear. It sniffs
>the airwaves and shows you what it finds. The netstumbler website, it's
>docs and forum, are about all that exists to cover it. And they're pretty
>much sufficient. It might be fair to say that netstumbler isn't something
>'mere mortals' are ever going to need bothering with. As a result there's
>not a 'netstumbler for dummies' resource.

Some comments and corrections:

1. There is not Netstumbler for Dummies, but there is:
"Hacking Wireless Networks For Dummies"
| http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/Dumm...764597302.html
which has a chapter on wardriving which includes Netstumbler. See the
index entry under "Netstumbler" at:
| http://media.wiley.com/product_data/...64597302-2.pdf

2. Netstumbler does NOT "sniff the airwaves". It's an active
scanner, not a passive sniffer. It xmits a "probe request frame" and
listens for a "probe response frame". Kismet is an example of a
passive sniffer.


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Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

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> Some comments and corrections:

<snip>

> 2. Netstumbler does NOT "sniff the airwaves". It's an active
> scanner, not a passive sniffer. It xmits a "probe request frame" and
> listens for a "probe response frame". Kismet is an example of a
> passive sniffer.

It's also a question of getting the right card (with supported chipset)
and driver.

For Windows, a good passive monitor is Commview for WiFi from Tamosoft.
Commview sniffs 802.11a/b/g wireless networks.

You can download a 30 evaluation of their latest version from the
Tamosoft site. They upgrade so often that you never reach the 30 day
limit.

Apparently, Netstumbler cannot do passiv monitoring at all, even with a
card that can be set to passiv mode. So what it's good for beats me. You
get the same functions in almost all WiFi clients, that come with a WiFi
card.

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:37:12 +0200, (E-Mail Removed) (Axel
Hammerschmidt) wrote in <1hk2g1w.1948cqmmcu7ugN%(E-Mail Removed)>:

>Apparently, Netstumbler cannot do passiv monitoring at all, even with a
>card that can be set to passiv mode. So what it's good for beats me. You
>get the same functions in almost all WiFi clients, that come with a WiFi
>card.

As good as ThinkPad (ThinkVantage) Wi-Fi software is, there are still
some things that Network Stumbler is good for; e.g., filtering,
scripting and logging.

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> Apparently, Netstumbler cannot do passiv monitoring at all, even with a
> card that can be set to passiv mode. So what it's good for beats me. You
> get the same functions in almost all WiFi clients, that come with a WiFi
> card.

Most clients don't track multiple networks and keep a running chart of the
signal strengths. If you're trying to determine antenna alignments and
such, or find multiple access points using netstumbler is QUITE a bit more
useful than the supplied wifi client. It's quite handy. kismet, in the
hands of someone aware of what they're doing, has a greater range of
features.

Axel Hammerschmidt <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> It's also a question of getting the right card (with supported chipset)
> and driver.

I thought it handled most of them as NDIS. Netstumbler didn't support some
of my cards in the earlier version, but they all seem to work as NDIS in
the version I have now.

> Apparently, Netstumbler cannot do passiv monitoring at all, even with a
> card that can be set to passiv mode. So what it's good for beats me. You
> get the same functions in almost all WiFi clients, that come with a WiFi
> card.

Some other free add-on clients provide some of the functionality. I like
the Boingo client for just seeing what's there.

Netstumbler allows information gathering which can be tied to a GPS for
later mapping and examination.

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