Net firms in music pirates deal

BT, Virgin, Orange, Tiscali, BSkyB and Carphone Warehouse have all
agreed a plan with the music industry to tackle piracy online.

The deal, negotiated by the government, will see hundreds of thousands
of letters sent to net users suspected of illegally sharing music.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7522334.stm

"Iapetus" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:g69g10$k9$(E-Mail Removed)...
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> BT, Virgin, Orange, Tiscali, BSkyB and Carphone Warehouse have all agreed
> a plan with the music industry to tackle piracy online.
>
> The deal, negotiated by the government, will see hundreds of thousands of
> letters sent to net users suspected of illegally sharing music.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7522334.stm

Anything to get bandwidth down.

Why don't the government invest in the infrastructure and do something they
can control..

Mr Me wrote:
> "Iapetus" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:g69g10$k9$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> BT, Virgin, Orange, Tiscali, BSkyB and Carphone Warehouse have all agreed
>> a plan with the music industry to tackle piracy online.
>>
>> The deal, negotiated by the government, will see hundreds of thousands of
>> letters sent to net users suspected of illegally sharing music.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7522334.stm
>
> Anything to get bandwidth down.
>
> Why don't the government invest in the infrastructure and do something they
> can control..
>
>
>
Im all for people paying to download and share music: as long as its not
me,because i actually never have except from free sites of repute, and
never will.

Iapetus wrote:
>
> BT, Virgin, Orange, Tiscali, BSkyB and Carphone Warehouse have all
> agreed a plan with the music industry to tackle piracy online.
>
> The deal, negotiated by the government, will see hundreds of thousands
> of letters sent to net users suspected of illegally sharing music.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7522334.stm

Excellent news, the daily mail will be printing the hard luck sobs of a
chav eight year old and her clueless parents before the end of the week!

Also excellent news something at last is being done about it :-)

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Adrian C

Adrian C wrote:
> Iapetus wrote:
>>
>> BT, Virgin, Orange, Tiscali, BSkyB and Carphone Warehouse have all
>> agreed a plan with the music industry to tackle piracy online.
>>
>> The deal, negotiated by the government, will see hundreds of
>> thousands of letters sent to net users suspected of illegally
>> sharing music. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7522334.stm
>
> Excellent news, the daily mail will be printing the hard luck sobs of
> a chav eight year old and her clueless parents before the end of the
> week!
> Also excellent news something at last is being done about it :-)

Indeed, however I find it slightly ironic when we get all this "piracy fuels
the drugs trade" crap, when many artists themselves also do...

Mike P

> Excellent news, the daily mail will be printing the hard luck sobs of a
> chav eight year old and her clueless parents before the end of the week!
>
> Also excellent news something at last is being done about it :-)

Don't get to excited, people will just move. The only people this will
stop is the people is can scare, there is already talk about how to
avoid getting caught. Its a bit like car crime, the thieves are always
one step ahead, cars are becoming more secure, and the thieves are
becoming more sophisticated, and that is what will happen here.

If Pigs start flying and they succeed, ISP's will be feeling the
pinch. The need for speed and download limits mostly comes from
illegal downloads. If people dont do that they don't need the speed or
high download limits, so they will reduce the packages that they are
on, or they will go to an ISP which is not doing anything about
piracy.

naza wrote:
>> Excellent news, the daily mail will be printing the hard luck sobs
>> of a chav eight year old and her clueless parents before the end of
>> the week!
>>
>> Also excellent news something at last is being done about it :-)
>
> Don't get to excited, people will just move. The only people this will
> stop is the people is can scare, there is already talk about how to
> avoid getting caught. Its a bit like car crime, the thieves are always
> one step ahead, cars are becoming more secure, and the thieves are
> becoming more sophisticated, and that is what will happen here.
>
> If Pigs start flying and they succeed, ISP's will be feeling the
> pinch. The need for speed and download limits mostly comes from
> illegal downloads. If people dont do that they don't need the speed or
> high download limits, so they will reduce the packages that they are
> on, or they will go to an ISP which is not doing anything about
> piracy.

It depends whether the ISPs go to the considerable time and expense of
installing equipment that can actually tell what users are downloading.

There's plenty of legal ways to use lots of bandwith, so if they can't tell
what I'm downloading, does that mean I'll get a letter too, even though
nearly all of my downloads are legal. The ones that aren't may or may not be
legal, I'm not sure - it's mostly motorsport that's been shown on TV anyway
that I could have recorded. Am I actually breaking any laws? Probably..

Mike P

"Mike P" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> naza wrote:
>
> It depends whether the ISPs go to the considerable time and expense of
> installing equipment that can actually tell what users are downloading.
>
> There's plenty of legal ways to use lots of bandwith, so if they can't
> tell what I'm downloading, does that mean I'll get a letter too, even
> though nearly all of my downloads are legal. The ones that aren't may or
> may not be legal, I'm not sure - it's mostly motorsport that's been shown
> on TV anyway that I could have recorded. Am I actually breaking any laws?
> Probably..
>
> Mike P
>

That was how I read it or at least that will be the easy way.

Maybe the top 10% who have downloaded the most will get letters but then a
new 10% will be next until everyone has had letters.

Then what?

I can't see them inspecting all the packets, I hope they got a few £ billion
off the government to install the equipment to allow them to do that or
could it be that Labour thinks it will be free.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:00:18 +0100, "Mr Me" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

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>"Mike P" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> naza wrote:
>>
>> It depends whether the ISPs go to the considerable time and expense of
>> installing equipment that can actually tell what users are downloading.
>>
>> There's plenty of legal ways to use lots of bandwith, so if they can't
>> tell what I'm downloading, does that mean I'll get a letter too, even
>> though nearly all of my downloads are legal. The ones that aren't may or
>> may not be legal, I'm not sure - it's mostly motorsport that's been shown
>> on TV anyway that I could have recorded. Am I actually breaking any laws?
>> Probably..
>>
>> Mike P
>>
>
>That was how I read it or at least that will be the easy way.
>
>Maybe the top 10% who have downloaded the most will get letters but then a
>new 10% will be next until everyone has had letters.
>
>Then what?
>
>I can't see them inspecting all the packets, I hope they got a few £ billion
>off the government to install the equipment to allow them to do that or
>could it be that Labour thinks it will be free.
>
If Labour pay then they will get the money from the usual place the
motorist

If it is a success it will be interesting to see if sales of music
goes up I doubt that it will

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:55:08 +0100, Iapetus passed an empty day by
writing:

> BT, Virgin, Orange, Tiscali, BSkyB and Carphone Warehouse have all
> agreed a plan with the music industry to tackle piracy online.
>
> The deal, negotiated by the government, will see hundreds of thousands
> of letters sent to net users suspected of illegally sharing music.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7522334.stm

which is a victory for another bunch of thieves .... the Post Office ;-)
Think of all those first class stamps ....

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