Net connection works but sharing doesnt

I have just set up a wirelss system at home. I have a wireless router
(Edimax model) hooked up to my cable modem and i connect wirelessly
with both my laptop and desktop machines. Both of them can connect to
the internet quite happily but i simply cannot get them to talk to
each other.

I have set up sharing as best i can and both machines are named and on
what should be the same workgroup however though i can see the dektop
from the laptop i get a permissions error when i click on it in
network places. I get the same error when i even try to click on the
workgroup on the dektop.

I read somewhere that the SSID of the router should match the
workgroup name. It doesnt, should it?

Quite possibly though i have simply set something up wrong. Does
anyone know of an absolute idiots guide to such things on the net that
will guide me through doing what i want to do?

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> I have just set up a wirelss system at home. I have a wireless router
> (Edimax model) hooked up to my cable modem and i connect wirelessly
> with both my laptop and desktop machines. Both of them can connect to
> the internet quite happily but i simply cannot get them to talk to
> each other.
>
> I have set up sharing as best i can and both machines are named and on
> what should be the same workgroup however though i can see the dektop
> from the laptop i get a permissions error when i click on it in
> network places. I get the same error when i even try to click on the
> workgroup on the dektop.
>
> I read somewhere that the SSID of the router should match the
> workgroup name. It doesnt, should it?
>
> Quite possibly though i have simply set something up wrong. Does
> anyone know of an absolute idiots guide to such things on the net that
> will guide me through doing what i want to do?
>
What I do in a case like this, where there are only a couple of machines
involved is to:

1. Completely disable file and printer sharing.
2. Install the NETBEUI protocol (on XP it is on the CD-ROM in the
VALUEADD/Microsoft/NET/NETBEUI folder. It doesn't get installed by
default. The reason I use NETBEUI is that it is a NON-ROUTABLE
protocol. (Yes, I know it broadcasts itself all over the network but
with only a couple of computers it's not an issue.)
3. Once you install NetBeui, filesharing will be enabled ONLY for
NetBeui. The checkbox in the network settings properties will be
grey with a checkmark indicating it is only active for a subset of
the available protocols.
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>1. Completely disable file and printer sharing.
>2. Install the NETBEUI protocol (on XP it is on the CD-ROM in the
> VALUEADD/Microsoft/NET/NETBEUI folder. It doesn't get installed by
> default. The reason I use NETBEUI is that it is a NON-ROUTABLE
> protocol. (Yes, I know it broadcasts itself all over the network but
> with only a couple of computers it's not an issue.)
>3. Once you install NetBeui, filesharing will be enabled ONLY for
> NetBeui. The checkbox in the network settings properties will be
> grey with a checkmark indicating it is only active for a subset of
> the available protocols.

Well that helps to some degree, i can now see the laptop from the
dektop but i still get the same error when i try and connect to it :|

On Tue, 04 May 2004 22:06:55 +0100, stuart graham
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>>1. Completely disable file and printer sharing.
>>2. Install the NETBEUI protocol (on XP it is on the CD-ROM in the
>> VALUEADD/Microsoft/NET/NETBEUI folder. It doesn't get installed by
>> default. The reason I use NETBEUI is that it is a NON-ROUTABLE
>> protocol. (Yes, I know it broadcasts itself all over the network but
>> with only a couple of computers it's not an issue.)
>>3. Once you install NetBeui, filesharing will be enabled ONLY for
>> NetBeui. The checkbox in the network settings properties will be
>> grey with a checkmark indicating it is only active for a subset of
>> the available protocols.
>
>Well that helps to some degree, i can now see the laptop from the
>dektop but i still get the same error when i try and connect to it :|

Scrub that, it was the firewall that was causing the problem, it
worked a treat thanks!

"stuart graham" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have just set up a wirelss system at home. I have a
wireless router
> (Edimax model) hooked up to my cable modem and i connect
wirelessly
> with both my laptop and desktop machines. Both of them can
connect to
> the internet quite happily but i simply cannot get them to
talk to
> each other.
>
> I have set up sharing as best i can and both machines are
named and on
> what should be the same workgroup however though i can see
the dektop
> from the laptop i get a permissions error when i click on
it in
> network places. I get the same error when i even try to
click on the
> workgroup on the dektop.
>
> I read somewhere that the SSID of the router should match
the
> workgroup name. It doesnt, should it?
>
> Quite possibly though i have simply set something up
wrong. Does
> anyone know of an absolute idiots guide to such things on
the net that
> will guide me through doing what i want to do?

you don't give the operating systems in use, but since
you're getting permissions errors, it's likely to be 2000 or
XP. Ensure that each machine has a user login to the other
machien, or enable the guest account on both machines..

P.

"stuart graham" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have just set up a wirelss system at home. I have a wireless router
> (Edimax model) hooked up to my cable modem and i connect wirelessly
> with both my laptop and desktop machines. Both of them can connect to
> the internet quite happily but i simply cannot get them to talk to
> each other.
>
> I have set up sharing as best i can and both machines are named and on
> what should be the same workgroup however though i can see the dektop
> from the laptop i get a permissions error when i click on it in
> network places. I get the same error when i even try to click on the
> workgroup on the dektop.

If the machines can see each other, but you get permissions errors, the
network structure (the wireless and router) are probably working properly.
Instead, you simply have something blocking traffic.

Common causes of this are a lack of proper (matching) accounts on the
machines, and most importantly, a firewall that is not configured to permit
traffic on the local network.

Do you have a firewall, for example Norton Internet Security, installed?
If so, click on the Personal Firewall section of the main app, and choose
Configure.. then look for Networking and permit by either range or specific
IP addresses. If this is not done, you will see the other machines but not
gain access.

HTH
-pk


>
> I read somewhere that the SSID of the router should match the
> workgroup name. It doesnt, should it?
>
> Quite possibly though i have simply set something up wrong. Does
> anyone know of an absolute idiots guide to such things on the net that
> will guide me through doing what i want to do?