Need simple outdoor antenna

If I put my Linksys WAP54G out of the window I can get a signal from
my remote site.

Obviously I can't leave it outside so what is the easiest/simplest way
of arranging it so I have an external antenna?

I'm in the UK if I need to buy any kit.

Is thin-wire ethernet any use?

Many thanks

Tony Lewis wrote:
> If I put my Linksys WAP54G out of the window I can get a signal from
> my remote site.
>
> Obviously I can't leave it outside so what is the easiest/simplest way
> of arranging it so I have an external antenna?
>
> I'm in the UK if I need to buy any kit.
>
> Is thin-wire ethernet any use?
>
> Many thanks

First of all, the antennas on that device are detachable and replaceable. On
the linksys website, they sell an as2tnc specifically for that, with 6 FT
extension cables
http://www.linksys.com/products/prod...id=38&prid=646

(one of the many paragraphs in the description)
The Antenna Stand can be mounted up to 6 feet away from the wireless device.
It comes with mounting slots to attach it to the ceiling, high on a wall, or
it can just stand on a tall bookcase or shelf. Note that although the
Antenna Stand's cable and connectors cause some loss to the wireless signal,
effective placement of the antennas above signal obstacles can easily create
a net gain in wireless communications range and reliability.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:20:38 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) (Tony Lewis)
wrote:

>If I put my Linksys WAP54G out of the window I can get a signal from
>my remote site.

UK Homemade antennas:
http://www.wlan.org.uk/antenna-page.html
Biquad antenna that I like and find easy to build:
http://home.deds.nl/~pe2er/biquad/
http://martybugs.net/wireless/biquad/

--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

Peter Pan wrote:

> Tony Lewis wrote:
>
>>If I put my Linksys WAP54G out of the window I can get a signal from
>>my remote site.
>>
>>Obviously I can't leave it outside so what is the easiest/simplest way
>>of arranging it so I have an external antenna?
>>
>>I'm in the UK if I need to buy any kit.
>>
>>Is thin-wire ethernet any use?
>>
>>Many thanks
>
>
> First of all, the antennas on that device are detachable and replaceable. On
> the linksys website, they sell an as2tnc specifically for that, with 6 FT
> extension cables
> http://www.linksys.com/products/prod...id=38&prid=646
>

That doesn't appear to be an outdoor antenna. If the OP gets a little
longer than normal pigtail to fit his Linksys, one that ends in N Male,
he can plug it into a normal outdoor type panel antenna mounted outside.

Pigtail: http://tinyurl.com/4poqk
Panel antenna: http://tinyurl.com/3t3t3

These links are just for instance, many other sources available. Be sure
to waterproof the connector that is outside, use a lot more quality
electrical tape over the connection than you'd think necessary.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:31:15 -0800, "Peter Pan"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Tony Lewis wrote:
>> If I put my Linksys WAP54G out of the window I can get a signal from
>> my remote site.
>>
>> Obviously I can't leave it outside so what is the easiest/simplest way
>> of arranging it so I have an external antenna?
>>
>> I'm in the UK if I need to buy any kit.
>>
>> Is thin-wire ethernet any use?
>>
>> Many thanks
>
>First of all, the antennas on that device are detachable and replaceable. On
>the linksys website, they sell an as2tnc specifically for that, with 6 FT
>extension cables
>http://www.linksys.com/products/prod...id=38&prid=646
>

would be perfect if it could be located outside.

Tony Lewis wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:31:15 -0800, "Peter Pan"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Tony Lewis wrote:
>>> If I put my Linksys WAP54G out of the window I can get a signal from
>>> my remote site.
>>>
>>> Obviously I can't leave it outside so what is the easiest/simplest
>>> way of arranging it so I have an external antenna?
>>>
>>> I'm in the UK if I need to buy any kit.
>>>
>>> Is thin-wire ethernet any use?
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>
>> First of all, the antennas on that device are detachable and
>> replaceable. On the linksys website, they sell an as2tnc
>> specifically for that, with 6 FT extension cables
>> http://www.linksys.com/products/prod...id=38&prid=646
>>
>
> would be perfect if it could be located outside.

Guess I didn't state it too clearly.. Didn't know if you have to be outside
to go around the corner of the windows, or just wanted externals that can be
placed on the window sill.. (inside would be a lot cheaper and easier)

If the latter (straight out), they also make hi-gain antennas that screw
onto the antenna stand or the back of the router, however if you have to go
around the corner, the back of the router has standard tnc connectors, and
you can get outdoor antennas with cables and tnc connectors on the end.
I know where to get em here in the US, but have no clue which are sold in
the UK.

Whole point was to make sure you knew that the WAP could be left inside, the
antennas come off, and have standard TNC connectors.

Most antennas are sold for indoor use (and are rather cheap), as soon as you
go to weatherproof outdoor ones, you add on a few bucks.

Just out of curiosity, do you need the antenna to be outside and see a place
at a 90 degree angle from you? or are you just trying to increase the signal
strength by not going thru the glass and going straight out? If you can use
something like the high gain antennas on the indoor

Oh, almost forgot, I ran across a really strange situation... How old are
your windows? Some older builings have things like leaded glass that block a
significant part of the signal.. Drove me nuts until I found that out...

Tony Lewis <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> If I put my Linksys WAP54G out of the window I can get a signal from
> my remote site.

> I'm in the UK if I need to buy any kit.

In the UK, you might take a lead from this hobbyist. His site has some
homebuilt solutions and some links to UK sites.

http://www.nodomainname.co.uk/cantenna/cantenna.htm


--
---
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5

"Peter Pan" <
|
| Oh, almost forgot, I ran across a really strange situation... How old are
| your windows? Some older buildings have things like leaded glass that
block a
| significant part of the signal.. Drove me nuts until I found that out...

Also some modern windows have metalized tinting which also plays h*ll with
the signal path.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:14:30 -0800, "Peter Pan"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Tony Lewis wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:31:15 -0800, "Peter Pan"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> Tony Lewis wrote:
>>>> If I put my Linksys WAP54G out of the window I can get a signal from
>>>> my remote site.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously I can't leave it outside so what is the easiest/simplest
>>>> way of arranging it so I have an external antenna?
>>>>

>Just out of curiosity, do you need the antenna to be outside and see a place
>at a 90 degree angle from you? or are you just trying to increase the signal
>strength by not going thru the glass and going straight out? If you can use
>something like the high gain antennas on the indoor

I have line of sight from the window which is double glazed. The
signal inside reduces too much.

My wife doesn't want dangly bits in the window so I was going to go
through an adjacent cupboard where I could hide the Access point and
just go through the brick to a simple outdoor antenna.

>
>Oh, almost forgot, I ran across a really strange situation... How old are
>your windows? Some older builings have things like leaded glass that block a
>significant part of the signal.. Drove me nuts until I found that out...
>

I presume double glazing also has a significant effect.


--
TonyL

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 01:45:25 +0000 (UTC),
(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>Tony Lewis <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> If I put my Linksys WAP54G out of the window I can get a signal from
>> my remote site.
>
>> I'm in the UK if I need to buy any kit.
>
>In the UK, you might take a lead from this hobbyist. His site has some
>homebuilt solutions and some links to UK sites.
>
>http://www.nodomainname.co.uk/cantenna/cantenna.htm
>

This (and others mentioned in other threads) look most promising
thanks.

As is often the case google throws up lots of sites (and noise) but it
takes a NG to find the best answers


--
TonyL