Need help on WIFI - my "Default Gatgeway" is sometime BLANK !

Hi, all !

I need your help !

I am learning to set up wifi base station and trying to hook up with
wifi clients.

I really need your help !!

My wireless network name is xyz-link. The base station is set up.

I power up the wifi client, and do a scan using the "Wireless Network
Connection". Under the "Choose a wireless network" column there is my
xyz-link !!

So I click on it. And low and behold, it tells me it's connected !
Yea !!

But when I power up the browser on the client PC there's nothing.

I poke around, and found that on the client side although it says it's
"connected", there's nothing coming in.

I dunno what to do next. I need you help.

I'll provide the info I gleaned from the client-side PC:

From the "Wireless client card configuration utility" -

===== ===== ===== = = = = = ===== ===== =====

Network Status

Select Profile: Default

Link Information:
Status: Connected
Network SSID: xyz-link
Network Type: Infrastructure
Network BSSID: 00 14 78 EB 8D 4A
Security: None
Link Speed: 11 Mbps

Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
DHCP Option: Enable
IP Address: 169.254.49.233
Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway: blank <=== *** Could this be the culprit ? ***

===== ===== ===== = = = = = ===== ===== =====

From the Wireless "Network Connection Status" -

Under the "General" tab

Connection
Status: Connected
Network: xyz-link
Duration: 00:16:33 (and counting)
Speed: 11.0 Mbps

Activity
Sent Packets: 88
Received Packets: 0 <------- *** Uh ha !! ***

===== ===== ===== = = = = = ===== ===== =====

Is it possible to have the wifi "connected" but nothing goes in
between the wifi base station and the wifi client?

Why is the "Default Gateway" blank ? Why is there is no "Received
Packets" ?

If there is a connection, there ought to be something going on,
right ?

Why in this case I got a "connection", but on the client PC there's
nothing ?

Is there a way to remedy this situation ?

Thanks !

===== ===== ===== = = = = = ===== ===== =====

Here are the general specs for the client PC:

OS - Windows XP Professional
RAM - 2GB DDR2
CPU - Dual Core Intel

===== ===== ===== = = = = = ===== ===== =====

Is there any freeware out there that can help me detect, diagnose, and
remedy this problem ?

Thanks again !!!

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:57:34 -0800 (PST), pg <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in <4420fca7-9550-494b-ad34-(E-Mail Removed)>:

>My wireless network name is xyz-link. The base station is set up.

What security features are turned on?
Have you tried turning all security off?

>I power up the wifi client, and do a scan using the "Wireless Network
>Connection". Under the "Choose a wireless network" column there is my
>xyz-link !!
>
>So I click on it. And low and behold, it tells me it's connected !
>Yea !!
>
>But when I power up the browser on the client PC there's nothing.
>
>[SNIP]
>
>Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
> DHCP Option: Enable
> IP Address: 169.254.49.233
> Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
> Default Gateway: blank <=== *** Could this be the culprit ? ***

That and the IP Address mean that DHCP failed.

Turn off all security for troubleshooting.
Cross-post with more restraint.

--
Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

On Feb 4, 12:02 am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:57:34 -0800 (PST), pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote
> in <4420fca7-9550-494b-ad34-5234367bd...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >My wireless network name is xyz-link. The base station is set up.
>
> What security features are turned on?
> Have you tried turning all security off?
>
>
>
> >I power up the wifi client, and do a scan using the "Wireless Network
> >Connection". Under the "Choose a wireless network" column there is my
> >xyz-link !!
>
> >So I click on it. And low and behold, it tells me it's connected !
> >Yea !!
>
> >But when I power up the browser on the client PC there's nothing.
>
> >[SNIP]
>
> >Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
> > DHCP Option: Enable
> > IP Address: 169.254.49.233
> > Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
> > Default Gateway: blank <=== *** Could this be the culprit ? ***


> That and the IP Address mean that DHCP failed.

DHCP clearly shown as "Enabled".


> Turn off all security for troubleshooting.

This happens even when security is OFF !

And that's the problem.

I have absolutely NO idea what's going on ! Using the "help menu" on
XP also turned up nothing.

Normally, if DHCP is enable, and it gives out a "connected" message,
by right it should connect. But no. On the client side I can see the
"chart" going up and down, but it's not receiving any.

The really mind-boggling thing is why the Default Gateway is "BLANK" ??

On Feb 4, 6:03*am, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
> On Feb 4, 12:02 am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:57:34 -0800 (PST), pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote
> > in <4420fca7-9550-494b-ad34-5234367bd...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>:
>
> > >My wireless network name is xyz-link. The base station is set up.
>
> > What security features are turned on?
> > Have you tried turning all security off?
>
> > >I power up the wifi client, and do a scan using the "Wireless Network
> > >Connection". Under the "Choose a wireless network" column there is my
> > >xyz-link !!
>
> > >So I click on it. And low and behold, *it tells me it's connected !
> > >Yea !!
>
> > >But when I power up the browser on the client PC there's nothing.
>
> > >[SNIP]
>
> > >Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
> > > * *DHCP Option: Enable
> > > * *IP Address: 169.254.49.233
> > > * *Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
> > > * *Default Gateway: blank * * * * *<=== *** Could this be the culprit ? ***
> > That and the IP Address mean that DHCP failed.
>
> DHCP clearly shown as "Enabled".
>
> > Turn off all security for troubleshooting.
>
> This happens even when security is OFF !
>
> And that's the problem.
>
> I have absolutely NO idea what's going on ! Using the "help menu" on
> XP also turned up nothing.
>
> Normally, if DHCP is enable, and it gives out a "connected" message,
> by right it should connect. But no. On the client side I can see the
> "chart" going up and down, but it's not receiving any.
>
> The really mind-boggling thing is why the Default Gateway is "BLANK" ??- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The first thing is that the IP address (169.254.xxx.xxx) indicates
that the wireless adapter has not successful accepted an IP address
from the base unit (aka router.)

You need to be able to access the base unit so as to set up the
wireless network part and make sure that the base unit is "assigning"
IP addresses to any network adapter that is requesting one (aka DHCP
service.)

On Feb 4, 2:06 am, smlunatick <yves...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 4, 6:03 am, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 12:02 am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:57:34 -0800 (PST), pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote
> > > in <4420fca7-9550-494b-ad34-5234367bd...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>:
>
> > > >My wireless network name is xyz-link. The base station is set up.
>
> > > What security features are turned on?
> > > Have you tried turning all security off?
>
> > > >I power up the wifi client, and do a scan using the "Wireless Network
> > > >Connection". Under the "Choose a wireless network" column there is my
> > > >xyz-link !!
>
> > > >So I click on it. And low and behold, it tells me it's connected !
> > > >Yea !!
>
> > > >But when I power up the browser on the client PC there's nothing.
>
> > > >[SNIP]
>
> > > >Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
> > > > DHCP Option: Enable
> > > > IP Address: 169.254.49.233
> > > > Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
> > > > Default Gateway: blank <=== *** Could this be the culprit ? ***
> > > That and the IP Address mean that DHCP failed.
>
> > DHCP clearly shown as "Enabled".
>
> > > Turn off all security for troubleshooting.
>
> > This happens even when security is OFF !
>
> > And that's the problem.
>
> > I have absolutely NO idea what's going on ! Using the "help menu" on
> > XP also turned up nothing.
>
> > Normally, if DHCP is enable, and it gives out a "connected" message,
> > by right it should connect. But no. On the client side I can see the
> > "chart" going up and down, but it's not receiving any.
>
> > The really mind-boggling thing is why the Default Gateway is "BLANK" ??- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> The first thing is that the IP address (169.254.xxx.xxx) indicates
> that the wireless adapter has not successful accepted an IP address
> from the base unit (aka router.)
>
> You need to be able to access the base unit so as to set up the
> wireless network part and make sure that the base unit is "assigning"
> IP addresses to any network adapter that is requesting one (aka DHCP
> service.)

That IP address ...169.254.xxx.xxx is one of the time I got the
trouble of getting the default gateway totally blank.

How about this ... IP address: 192.168.1.102

Same thing happens.

Default gateway ---- BLANK !

I am a total new bird in the park, so I know that I don't know what
I'm talking about. All I'm doing is to copy EVERYTHING that I can see
on screen and reproduce them here.

I really appreciate your help, but can you also share where and how
you know that 169.254.xxx.xxx indicates that the wireless adapter has
not successful accepted an IP address from the base unit (aka
router.) ?

Where can I get info like this ?

I'm totally new in this, and I do want to learn. Please tell me where
to find the info, please, pretty please !

Thank you !

On Feb 4, 10:21*am, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2:06 am, smlunatick <yves...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 6:03 am, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 4, 12:02 am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:57:34 -0800 (PST), pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote
> > > > in <4420fca7-9550-494b-ad34-5234367bd...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>:
>
> > > > >My wireless network name is xyz-link. The base station is set up.
>
> > > > What security features are turned on?
> > > > Have you tried turning all security off?
>
> > > > >I power up the wifi client, and do a scan using the "Wireless Network
> > > > >Connection". Under the "Choose a wireless network" column there is my
> > > > >xyz-link !!
>
> > > > >So I click on it. And low and behold, *it tells me it's connected!
> > > > >Yea !!
>
> > > > >But when I power up the browser on the client PC there's nothing.
>
> > > > >[SNIP]
>
> > > > >Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
> > > > > * *DHCP Option: Enable
> > > > > * *IP Address: 169.254.49.233
> > > > > * *Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
> > > > > * *Default Gateway: blank * * * * *<=== *** Could this be the culprit ? ***
> > > > That and the IP Address mean that DHCP failed.
>
> > > DHCP clearly shown as "Enabled".
>
> > > > Turn off all security for troubleshooting.
>
> > > This happens even when security is OFF !
>
> > > And that's the problem.
>
> > > I have absolutely NO idea what's going on ! Using the "help menu" on
> > > XP also turned up nothing.
>
> > > Normally, if DHCP is enable, and it gives out a "connected" message,
> > > by right it should connect. But no. On the client side I can see the
> > > "chart" going up and down, but it's not receiving any.
>
> > > The really mind-boggling thing is why the Default Gateway is "BLANK" ??- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > The first thing is that the IP address (169.254.xxx.xxx) indicates
> > that the wireless adapter has not successful accepted an IP address
> > from the base unit (aka router.)
>
> > You need to be able to access the base unit so as to set up the
> > wireless network part and make sure that the base unit is "assigning"
> > IP addresses to any network adapter that is requesting one (aka DHCP
> > service.)
>
> That IP address ...169.254.xxx.xxx is one of the time I got the
> trouble of getting the default gateway totally blank.
>
> How about this ... IP address: 192.168.1.102
>
> Same thing happens.
>
> Default gateway ---- BLANK !
>
> I am a total new bird in the park, so I know that I don't know what
> I'm talking about. All I'm doing is to copy EVERYTHING that I can see
> on screen and reproduce them here.
>
> I really appreciate your help, but can you also share where and how
> you know that 169.254.xxx.xxx indicates that the wireless adapter has
> not successful accepted an IP address from the base unit (aka
> router.) ?
>
> Where can I get info like this ?
>
> I'm totally new in this, and I do want to learn. Please tell me where
> to find the info, please, pretty please !
>
> Thank you !- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You need to read and follow the directions that should have been
included with the base wireless unit (aka router.)

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 07:29:10 -0800 (PST), smlunatick <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote in
<b41163d6-2363-4d49-a863-(E-Mail Removed)>:

>On Feb 4, 10:21*am, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:

>> I am a total new bird in the park, so I know that I don't know what
>> I'm talking about. All I'm doing is to copy EVERYTHING that I can see
>> on screen and reproduce them here.
>>
>> I really appreciate your help, but can you also share where and how
>> you know that 169.254.xxx.xxx indicates that the wireless adapter has
>> not successful accepted an IP address from the base unit (aka
>> router.) ?
>>
>> Where can I get info like this ?
>>
>> I'm totally new in this, and I do want to learn. Please tell me where
>> to find the info, please, pretty please !

>You need to read and follow the directions that should have been
>included with the base wireless unit (aka router.)

Also read the wiki below, which has a wealth of useful information.

--
Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

Have a look see at any/all of these:
www.wown.com
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/
http://www.homepcnetwork.com/

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h...et/default.asp

http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking.htm

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

How to set up a small network with Windows XP Home Edition (PART 1)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813936/en-us

--


Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


"pg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:97c24387-87ed-4a92-9472-(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Feb 4, 2:06 am, smlunatick <yves...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 4, 6:03 am, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 4, 12:02 am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:57:34 -0800 (PST), pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote
>> > > in <4420fca7-9550-494b-ad34-5234367bd...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>:
>>
>> > > >My wireless network name is xyz-link. The base station is set up.
>>
>> > > What security features are turned on?
>> > > Have you tried turning all security off?
>>
>> > > >I power up the wifi client, and do a scan using the "Wireless Network
>> > > >Connection". Under the "Choose a wireless network" column there is my
>> > > >xyz-link !!
>>
>> > > >So I click on it. And low and behold, it tells me it's connected !
>> > > >Yea !!
>>
>> > > >But when I power up the browser on the client PC there's nothing.
>>
>> > > >[SNIP]
>>
>> > > >Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
>> > > > DHCP Option: Enable
>> > > > IP Address: 169.254.49.233
>> > > > Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
>> > > > Default Gateway: blank <=== *** Could this be the culprit ? ***
>> > > That and the IP Address mean that DHCP failed.
>>
>> > DHCP clearly shown as "Enabled".
>>
>> > > Turn off all security for troubleshooting.
>>
>> > This happens even when security is OFF !
>>
>> > And that's the problem.
>>
>> > I have absolutely NO idea what's going on ! Using the "help menu" on
>> > XP also turned up nothing.
>>
>> > Normally, if DHCP is enable, and it gives out a "connected" message,
>> > by right it should connect. But no. On the client side I can see the
>> > "chart" going up and down, but it's not receiving any.
>>
>> > The really mind-boggling thing is why the Default Gateway is "BLANK" ??- Hide
>> > quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> The first thing is that the IP address (169.254.xxx.xxx) indicates
>> that the wireless adapter has not successful accepted an IP address
>> from the base unit (aka router.)
>>
>> You need to be able to access the base unit so as to set up the
>> wireless network part and make sure that the base unit is "assigning"
>> IP addresses to any network adapter that is requesting one (aka DHCP
>> service.)
>
> That IP address ...169.254.xxx.xxx is one of the time I got the
> trouble of getting the default gateway totally blank.
>
> How about this ... IP address: 192.168.1.102
>
> Same thing happens.
>
> Default gateway ---- BLANK !
>
> I am a total new bird in the park, so I know that I don't know what
> I'm talking about. All I'm doing is to copy EVERYTHING that I can see
> on screen and reproduce them here.
>
> I really appreciate your help, but can you also share where and how
> you know that 169.254.xxx.xxx indicates that the wireless adapter has
> not successful accepted an IP address from the base unit (aka
> router.) ?
>
> Where can I get info like this ?
>
> I'm totally new in this, and I do want to learn. Please tell me where
> to find the info, please, pretty please !
>
> Thank you !

On Feb 4, 3:29 am, smlunatick <yves...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 4, 10:21 am, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 2:06 am, smlunatick <yves...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 4, 6:03 am, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 4, 12:02 am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:57:34 -0800 (PST), pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote
> > > > > in <4420fca7-9550-494b-ad34-5234367bd...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>:
>
> > > > > >My wireless network name is xyz-link. The base station is set up.
>
> > > > > What security features are turned on?
> > > > > Have you tried turning all security off?
>
> > > > > >I power up the wifi client, and do a scan using the "Wireless Network
> > > > > >Connection". Under the "Choose a wireless network" column there is my
> > > > > >xyz-link !!
>
> > > > > >So I click on it. And low and behold, it tells me it's connected !
> > > > > >Yea !!
>
> > > > > >But when I power up the browser on the client PC there's nothing.
>
> > > > > >[SNIP]
>
> > > > > >Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
> > > > > > DHCP Option: Enable
> > > > > > IP Address: 169.254.49.233
> > > > > > Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
> > > > > > Default Gateway: blank <=== *** Could this be the culprit ? ***
> > > > > That and the IP Address mean that DHCP failed.
>
> > > > DHCP clearly shown as "Enabled".
>
> > > > > Turn off all security for troubleshooting.
>
> > > > This happens even when security is OFF !
>
> > > > And that's the problem.
>
> > > > I have absolutely NO idea what's going on ! Using the "help menu" on
> > > > XP also turned up nothing.
>
> > > > Normally, if DHCP is enable, and it gives out a "connected" message,
> > > > by right it should connect. But no. On the client side I can see the
> > > > "chart" going up and down, but it's not receiving any.
>
> > > > The really mind-boggling thing is why the Default Gateway is "BLANK" ??- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > The first thing is that the IP address (169.254.xxx.xxx) indicates
> > > that the wireless adapter has not successful accepted an IP address
> > > from the base unit (aka router.)
>
> > > You need to be able to access the base unit so as to set up the
> > > wireless network part and make sure that the base unit is "assigning"
> > > IP addresses to any network adapter that is requesting one (aka DHCP
> > > service.)
>
> > That IP address ...169.254.xxx.xxx is one of the time I got the
> > trouble of getting the default gateway totally blank.
>
> > How about this ... IP address: 192.168.1.102
>
> > Same thing happens.
>
> > Default gateway ---- BLANK !
>
> > I am a total new bird in the park, so I know that I don't know what
> > I'm talking about. All I'm doing is to copy EVERYTHING that I can see
> > on screen and reproduce them here.
>
> > I really appreciate your help, but can you also share where and how
> > you know that 169.254.xxx.xxx indicates that the wireless adapter has
> > not successful accepted an IP address from the base unit (aka
> > router.) ?
>
> > Where can I get info like this ?
>
> > I'm totally new in this, and I do want to learn. Please tell me where
> > to find the info, please, pretty please !
>
> > Thank you !- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You need to read and follow the directions that should have been
> included with the base wireless unit (aka router.)

I did. I did *try* read all the chingish direction in the owner's
manual. Bad grammar aside, so many things doesn't make any sense !

That is why I'm here trying to make *some* sense out of it all, in
English.

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:31:49 -0800 (PST), pg <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in <e8ad3e05-67df-4f4a-9ceb-(E-Mail Removed)>:

>On Feb 4, 3:29 am, smlunatick <yves...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 4, 10:21 am, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
>>
>> > On Feb 4, 2:06 am, smlunatick <yves...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > > The first thing is that the IP address (169.254.xxx.xxx) indicates
>> > > that the wireless adapter has not successful accepted an IP address
>> > > from the base unit (aka router.)

More precisely, that its DHCP request to get configuration information
(from the DHCP server presumably built-in to the router) failed.

>> > > You need to be able to access the base unit so as to set up the
>> > > wireless network part and make sure that the base unit is "assigning"
>> > > IP addresses to any network adapter that is requesting one (aka DHCP
>> > > service.)

Best bet is to reset the wireless router to hardware defaults and start
over.

>> > That IP address ...169.254.xxx.xxx is one of the time I got the
>> > trouble of getting the default gateway totally blank.

That's an address assigned by Windows when DHCP fails.

>> > How about this ... IP address: 192.168.1.102

That's typical of NAT configuration by DHCP. Did you set that manually
or did DHCP do it automatically?

>> > Same thing happens.
>>
>> > Default gateway ---- BLANK !

If DHCP worked, then the Default Gateway should be populated.

>> You need to read and follow the directions that should have been
>> included with the base wireless unit (aka router.)
>
>I did. I did *try* read all the chingish direction in the owner's
>manual. Bad grammar aside, so many things doesn't make any sense !

What router (manufacturer and model)? Did you buy a quality name brand
unit, or the cheapest thing you could find?

--
Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>