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PA-C_Man
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      08-17-2003, 03:56 AM
I have set up a wireless network at home. The host machine is running Win XP
Pro and a Linksys Wireless Access Point Router. I am networking 2 laptops
running Win XP Home and a desktop running Win ME. Internet work just fine on
all computers but the network functions(file sharing, network printing etc)
and any other internet service like email, IRC do not work except on the ME
machine that works flawlessly. Configuration is good, drives and printers
are shared, everything set up using the default settings on the Linksys and
in Windows. I run a small home business and file and printer sharing is a
big deal and I'd like to do everything the network is designed to do.
Because the ME machine works fine I am guessing it is an XP setting. Any
help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. The Linksys web site and
tech support has not been helpful at all.

Scott


 
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Duane Arnold
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      08-17-2003, 10:36 AM
"PA-C_Man" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:3f3dab47$1_3@newsfeed:

> I have set up a wireless network at home. The host machine is running
> Win XP Pro and a Linksys Wireless Access Point Router. I am networking
> 2 laptops running Win XP Home and a desktop running Win ME. Internet
> work just fine on all computers but the network functions(file
> sharing, network printing etc) and any other internet service like
> email, IRC do not work except on the ME machine that works flawlessly.
> Configuration is good, drives and printers are shared, everything set
> up using the default settings on the Linksys and in Windows. I run a
> small home business and file and printer sharing is a big deal and I'd
> like to do everything the network is designed to do. Because the ME
> machine works fine I am guessing it is an XP setting. Any help or
> suggestions will be greatly appreciated. The Linksys web site and tech
> support has not been helpful at all.
>
> Scott
>
>
>


I am going to assume you're talking about an 11S4 router.

You got FW's on the machines, you may need to open ports 137, 138, 139,
and (445 NT based machines) based on the DHCP IP's that can be issued by
the router.

Or, it could be that you need to use the NIC protcol NWlink IPX/SPX
NETBios compatible on all machines so that they can communicate with each
other and, maybe, in particular that ME machine. And if you do decide to
switch to NWLink, uninstall the other protocol first, otherwise, you may
hose the TCP/IP Stack on the machine.

The cheap NAT routers in this class do not have a FW and can be easily
defeated by a determined attacker. A router with a FW blocks inbound and
outbound traffic by default. At most, the router has NAT and SPI --
firewall like but is not a FW.

http://www.homenethelp.com/web/explain/about-NAT.asp
http://security.ziffdavis.com/print_...a=38771,00.asp
http://www.firewall-software.com/fir...rewall_do.html

basic wireless security

http://netsecurity.about.com/library.../aa022703a.htm

The protection of the machine and the network starts with the O/S. I
cannot say much about ME, other than, get rid of it.

http://www.uksecurityonline.com/husdg/windowsxp.php

Windows is Windows no matter what O/S and don't think that someone will
not possibly come at your set-up, because it's not a big corporate set-
up. They have got to practice on someone before going for bigger game.

http://www.windowsecurity.com/articl...jan_Horses_and
_Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html

I suggest you install a host based FW on the machines behind the router
for a layered protection approach.

And make sure you address the DCOM RPC *worm* issue on the XP machines,
which as been in the news as of late, if you have not already done so.
And the worm can attack Win 9'x and ME, if somehow, it got installed on
the machine.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q165/1/01.asp&No
WebContent=1

This is most likely more than you want to know.

Duane
 
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PA-C_Man
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      08-17-2003, 02:37 PM
Thanks Duane. It is most assuredly NOT more than I wanted to know. I have
gotten the same over simple answers from a lot of folks and I appreciate the
depth of your response. I'll let you know how these changes work.

Scott
"Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns93DA390824391notmenotmecom@204.127.204.17. ..
> "PA-C_Man" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:3f3dab47$1_3@newsfeed:
>
> > I have set up a wireless network at home. The host machine is running
> > Win XP Pro and a Linksys Wireless Access Point Router. I am networking
> > 2 laptops running Win XP Home and a desktop running Win ME. Internet
> > work just fine on all computers but the network functions(file
> > sharing, network printing etc) and any other internet service like
> > email, IRC do not work except on the ME machine that works flawlessly.
> > Configuration is good, drives and printers are shared, everything set
> > up using the default settings on the Linksys and in Windows. I run a
> > small home business and file and printer sharing is a big deal and I'd
> > like to do everything the network is designed to do. Because the ME
> > machine works fine I am guessing it is an XP setting. Any help or
> > suggestions will be greatly appreciated. The Linksys web site and tech
> > support has not been helpful at all.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >

>
> I am going to assume you're talking about an 11S4 router.
>
> You got FW's on the machines, you may need to open ports 137, 138, 139,
> and (445 NT based machines) based on the DHCP IP's that can be issued by
> the router.
>
> Or, it could be that you need to use the NIC protcol NWlink IPX/SPX
> NETBios compatible on all machines so that they can communicate with each
> other and, maybe, in particular that ME machine. And if you do decide to
> switch to NWLink, uninstall the other protocol first, otherwise, you may
> hose the TCP/IP Stack on the machine.
>
> The cheap NAT routers in this class do not have a FW and can be easily
> defeated by a determined attacker. A router with a FW blocks inbound and
> outbound traffic by default. At most, the router has NAT and SPI --
> firewall like but is not a FW.
>
> http://www.homenethelp.com/web/explain/about-NAT.asp
> http://security.ziffdavis.com/print_...a=38771,00.asp
> http://www.firewall-software.com/fir...rewall_do.html
>
> basic wireless security
>
> http://netsecurity.about.com/library.../aa022703a.htm
>
> The protection of the machine and the network starts with the O/S. I
> cannot say much about ME, other than, get rid of it.
>
> http://www.uksecurityonline.com/husdg/windowsxp.php
>
> Windows is Windows no matter what O/S and don't think that someone will
> not possibly come at your set-up, because it's not a big corporate set-
> up. They have got to practice on someone before going for bigger game.
>
> http://www.windowsecurity.com/articl...jan_Horses_and
> _Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html
>
> I suggest you install a host based FW on the machines behind the router
> for a layered protection approach.
>
> And make sure you address the DCOM RPC *worm* issue on the XP machines,
> which as been in the news as of late, if you have not already done so.
> And the worm can attack Win 9'x and ME, if somehow, it got installed on
> the machine.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
> scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q165/1/01.asp&No
> WebContent=1
>
> This is most likely more than you want to know.
>
> Duane



 
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Duane Arnold
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      08-17-2003, 06:41 PM
"PA-C_Man" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:3f3e6e14$1_3@newsfeed:

> No Joy... same problem. Internet works... nothing else does... not the
> network function, IRC, Mirc, IM....
> "PA-C_Man" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:3f3e41a2_3@newsfeed...
>> Thanks Duane. It is most assuredly NOT more than I wanted to know. I
>> have gotten the same over simple answers from a lot of folks and I
>> appreciate

> the
>> depth of your response. I'll let you know how these changes work.
>>
>> Scott
>> "Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:Xns93DA390824391notmenotmecom@204.127.204.17. ..
>> > "PA-C_Man" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> > news:3f3dab47$1_3@newsfeed:
>> >
>> > > I have set up a wireless network at home. The host machine is
>> > > running Win XP Pro and a Linksys Wireless Access Point Router. I
>> > > am networking 2 laptops running Win XP Home and a desktop running
>> > > Win ME. Internet work just fine on all computers but the network
>> > > functions(file sharing, network printing etc) and any other
>> > > internet service like email, IRC do not work except on the ME
>> > > machine that works flawlessly. Configuration is good, drives and
>> > > printers are shared, everything set up using the default settings
>> > > on the Linksys and in Windows. I run a small home business and
>> > > file and printer sharing is a big deal and I'd like to do
>> > > everything the network is designed to do. Because the ME machine
>> > > works fine I am guessing it is an XP setting. Any help or
>> > > suggestions will be greatly appreciated. The Linksys web site and
>> > > tech support has not been helpful at all.
>> > >
>> > > Scott
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > I am going to assume you're talking about an 11S4 router.
>> >
>> > You got FW's on the machines, you may need to open ports 137, 138,
>> > 139, and (445 NT based machines) based on the DHCP IP's that can be
>> > issued by the router.
>> >
>> > Or, it could be that you need to use the NIC protcol NWlink IPX/SPX
>> > NETBios compatible on all machines so that they can communicate
>> > with

> each
>> > other and, maybe, in particular that ME machine. And if you do
>> > decide to switch to NWLink, uninstall the other protocol first,
>> > otherwise, you may hose the TCP/IP Stack on the machine.
>> >
>> > The cheap NAT routers in this class do not have a FW and can be
>> > easily defeated by a determined attacker. A router with a FW blocks
>> > inbound and outbound traffic by default. At most, the router has
>> > NAT and SPI -- firewall like but is not a FW.
>> >
>> > http://www.homenethelp.com/web/explain/about-NAT.asp
>> > http://security.ziffdavis.com/print_...a=38771,00.asp
>> >

> http://www.firewall-software.com/fir...firewall_do.ht
> ml
>> >
>> > basic wireless security
>> >
>> > http://netsecurity.about.com/library.../aa022703a.htm
>> >
>> > The protection of the machine and the network starts with the O/S.
>> > I cannot say much about ME, other than, get rid of it.
>> >
>> > http://www.uksecurityonline.com/husdg/windowsxp.php
>> >
>> > Windows is Windows no matter what O/S and don't think that someone
>> > will not possibly come at your set-up, because it's not a big
>> > corporate set- up. They have got to practice on someone before
>> > going for bigger game.
>> >
>> >

> http://www.windowsecurity.com/articl...rojan_Horses_a
> nd
>> > _Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html
>> >
>> > I suggest you install a host based FW on the machines behind the
>> > router for a layered protection approach.
>> >
>> > And make sure you address the DCOM RPC *worm* issue on the XP
>> > machines, which as been in the news as of late, if you have not
>> > already done so. And the worm can attack Win 9'x and ME, if
>> > somehow, it got installed on the machine.
>> >
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
>> >

> scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q165/1/01.asp&
> No
>> > WebContent=1
>> >
>> > This is most likely more than you want to know.
>> >
>> > Duane

>>
>>

>
>
>


I don't think its a router issue either, since the machines can access
the Internet. It's something simple that is being missed like all
machines not being in the same workgroup, not using MS file and print
sharing, no shares on a machine that has been created.

But on the other hand with routers, if something simple should be working
and it is not working, then it could be that the router is defective.

They pop them out like pop corn.

Duane

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      08-18-2003, 12:05 AM

"PA-C_Man" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3f3e6e14$1_3@newsfeed...
> No Joy... same problem. Internet works... nothing else does... not the
> network function, IRC, Mirc, IM....


In your original message, you mentioned a "host machine" running XP. What
did you mean by "host"?

Is the router connected to your modem, or is this XP "host" connected to
the modem and uses ICS to feed the router?

If it's the latter, you need to configure the router differently. You need
change it's mode from "gateway" to "router", turn off the DHCP server,
change the IP address, and connect to the XP "host" using the UPLINK port
and not the WAN port.

This will explain it all in detail: http://makeashorterlink.com/?M24731D95

Bob


 
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tooly
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      08-18-2003, 01:06 AM
Yea, he helped me and I don't even know what he's talking about.
But it helps to see detailed explanations; then one can sift through
it...even idiots like me can understand in time through 'repetition'.
thanks duane...

"PA-C_Man" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3f3e41a2_3@newsfeed...
> Thanks Duane. It is most assuredly NOT more than I wanted to know. I have
> gotten the same over simple answers from a lot of folks and I appreciate

the
> depth of your response. I'll let you know how these changes work.
>
> Scott
> "Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns93DA390824391notmenotmecom@204.127.204.17. ..
> > "PA-C_Man" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:3f3dab47$1_3@newsfeed:
> >
> > > I have set up a wireless network at home. The host machine is running
> > > Win XP Pro and a Linksys Wireless Access Point Router. I am networking
> > > 2 laptops running Win XP Home and a desktop running Win ME. Internet
> > > work just fine on all computers but the network functions(file
> > > sharing, network printing etc) and any other internet service like
> > > email, IRC do not work except on the ME machine that works flawlessly.
> > > Configuration is good, drives and printers are shared, everything set
> > > up using the default settings on the Linksys and in Windows. I run a
> > > small home business and file and printer sharing is a big deal and I'd
> > > like to do everything the network is designed to do. Because the ME
> > > machine works fine I am guessing it is an XP setting. Any help or
> > > suggestions will be greatly appreciated. The Linksys web site and tech
> > > support has not been helpful at all.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> > I am going to assume you're talking about an 11S4 router.
> >
> > You got FW's on the machines, you may need to open ports 137, 138, 139,
> > and (445 NT based machines) based on the DHCP IP's that can be issued by
> > the router.
> >
> > Or, it could be that you need to use the NIC protcol NWlink IPX/SPX
> > NETBios compatible on all machines so that they can communicate with

each
> > other and, maybe, in particular that ME machine. And if you do decide to
> > switch to NWLink, uninstall the other protocol first, otherwise, you may
> > hose the TCP/IP Stack on the machine.
> >
> > The cheap NAT routers in this class do not have a FW and can be easily
> > defeated by a determined attacker. A router with a FW blocks inbound and
> > outbound traffic by default. At most, the router has NAT and SPI --
> > firewall like but is not a FW.
> >
> > http://www.homenethelp.com/web/explain/about-NAT.asp
> > http://security.ziffdavis.com/print_...a=38771,00.asp
> >

http://www.firewall-software.com/fir...rewall_do.html
> >
> > basic wireless security
> >
> > http://netsecurity.about.com/library.../aa022703a.htm
> >
> > The protection of the machine and the network starts with the O/S. I
> > cannot say much about ME, other than, get rid of it.
> >
> > http://www.uksecurityonline.com/husdg/windowsxp.php
> >
> > Windows is Windows no matter what O/S and don't think that someone will
> > not possibly come at your set-up, because it's not a big corporate set-
> > up. They have got to practice on someone before going for bigger game.
> >
> >

http://www.windowsecurity.com/articl...jan_Horses_and
> > _Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html
> >
> > I suggest you install a host based FW on the machines behind the router
> > for a layered protection approach.
> >
> > And make sure you address the DCOM RPC *worm* issue on the XP machines,
> > which as been in the news as of late, if you have not already done so.
> > And the worm can attack Win 9'x and ME, if somehow, it got installed on
> > the machine.
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
> >

scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q165/1/01.asp&No
> > WebContent=1
> >
> > This is most likely more than you want to know.
> >
> > Duane

>
>




 
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      08-18-2003, 01:09 AM
This thread was a pearl; may have helped me solve my own problem. We'll
see....


"Bob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "PA-C_Man" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:3f3e6e14$1_3@newsfeed...
> > No Joy... same problem. Internet works... nothing else does... not the
> > network function, IRC, Mirc, IM....

>
> In your original message, you mentioned a "host machine" running XP. What
> did you mean by "host"?
>
> Is the router connected to your modem, or is this XP "host" connected to
> the modem and uses ICS to feed the router?
>
> If it's the latter, you need to configure the router differently. You

need
> change it's mode from "gateway" to "router", turn off the DHCP server,
> change the IP address, and connect to the XP "host" using the UPLINK port
> and not the WAN port.
>
> This will explain it all in detail:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?M24731D95
>
> Bob
>
>




 
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