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dubiousraves
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      09-26-2008, 01:40 AM
Hi there. Can anyone help me out in picking a decent wireless set-up.
We had a Netgear that worked great, but died after 2 years. Then
someone gave us a D-Link WBR-1310, but it doesn't seem up to the task.
We run 2 laptops off it, both within 75 feet. One is 1 floor directly
below. The other is 2 rooms away. If we try to use it 3 rooms away
(still well within 75 feet) it doesn't work.

Our internet source is comcast cable, and the PC is a compaq with
Windows XP, 1.99 GHz and 448 MB RAM.

The wireless connection is weak, slow, and frequently bugs out,
necessitating a reboot of the router. Streaming audio and video is
particularly a problem.

Any suggestions on a more reliable, powerful router?

Thanks,
Dave
 
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rubien.david@gmail.com
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      09-26-2008, 03:46 AM
On Sep 25, 7:23*pm, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:40:01 -0700 (PDT), dubiousraves
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> <rub...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >Hi there. Can anyone help me out in picking a decent wireless set-up.
> >We had a Netgear that worked great, but died after 2 years. Then
> >someone gave us a D-Link WBR-1310, but it doesn't seem up to the task.
> >We run 2 laptops off it, both within 75 *feet. One is 1 floor directly
> >below. The other is 2 rooms away. If we try to use it 3 rooms away
> >(still well within 75 feet) it doesn't work.

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> >Our internet source is comcast cable, and the PC is a compaq with
> >Windows XP, 1.99 GHz and 448 MB RAM.

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> >The wireless connection is weak, slow, *and frequently bugs out,
> >necessitating a reboot of the router. Streaming audio and video is
> >particularly a problem.

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> >Any suggestions on a more reliable, powerful router?

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> No specific suggestion but if you think you've found something, check
> out the reviews and tests at:
> <http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/86/106/>
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> The Dlink WBR-1310 is not exactly my favorite wireless router.
> However, I don't think you're problem is the router. *Methinks it's
> the number of walls and the antenna pattern that's causing problems.
> 75ft is a long way to go through what I guess will be multiple walls.
> Going through a floor implies that the antenna pattern has to be
> optimized for 2 different directions. *There's no indication of what's
> in the walls or what type of construction, but if there's any metal in
> the walls (chicken wire, foil backed insulation) or water (concrete,
> plaster), the wall is going to be a severe RF barrier. *My rule of
> thumb is that one drywall wall is easy. *Two is a bit more problematic
> but still possible if the walls are fairly RF transparent. *With 3
> walls, it's not going to work. *Floors are worse as they're often
> insulated with foil backed insulation.
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> I don't know what to suggest, but methinks the clients throught the
> floor and 3 rooms away are going to a problem no matter what type of
> wireless router you buy. *You could experiment with better antennas,
> but they just redirect the signal. *What you gain in one direction,
> you lose in another direction. *If you optimize it for the 3 rooms
> way, which is horizontal, you lose signal through the floor, which is
> vertical. *I could probably customize an antenna configuration, but
> even so, the walls will cause problems.
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> You might want to consider power line, phone line, or CATV coax
> networking instead of wireless for the remote clients.
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Thanks Jeff. My only comment is, we didn't have a problem with the
Netgear router (until it died, of course). So that leads me to believe
another router would handle the tasks.

DR
 
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rubien.david@gmail.com
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      09-26-2008, 07:36 PM
On Sep 25, 9:05*pm, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:46:38 -0700 (PDT), rubien.da...@gmail.com
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> >Thanks Jeff. My only comment is, we didn't have a problem with the
> >Netgear router (until it died, of course). So that leads me to believe
> >another router would handle the tasks.

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> Yes, but that was how long ago? *Since then, other users of wireless
> networks have moved into the area, creating the potential for
> interference. *Had you not mentioned the multiple walls, I would have
> suspected your symptoms resemble the results of interfence. *Try
> changing channels (1, 6, or 11) before giving up on the DLink. *Also,
> do a site survey to see if there are any other networks in the area,
> by using Netstumbler or better yet, Kismet.
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OK, Jeff, thanks. I didn't know you could change channels on a router.
We've been using the D-Link for less than a year.

I'll try those site surveys you suggest.
 
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      09-27-2008, 02:19 PM
On Sep 26, 6:52*pm, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:36:32 -0700 (PDT), rubien.da...@gmail.com
> wrote:
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> >I didn't know you could change channels on a router.
> >We've been using the D-Link for less than a year.

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> Yep. *In infrastructure mode, the wireless access point determines the
> channel to use. *All the client radios follow the central wireless
> access point. *There's also an automatic channel selection mode, where
> the access point scans for empty channels when the system isn't busy.
> I haven't had much luck with this feature, but it's worth trying. *
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> Jeff Liebermann * * je...@cruzio.com
> 150 Felker St #D * *http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann * * AE6KS * *831-336-2558


Jeff,

Hey buddy! How are ya?
Do you think one of my biquads would pull in that signal?
biquadantenna.com

Pete

 
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