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jeff
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      01-04-2007, 10:49 PM
I have a scerio for a client that i need expert advice with:

Main office - Win2003 R2 - main domain controller
10 workstations running XP
Dlink router with an cable connection with static ip

Remote office - Win2003 R2 - (just put in temporarily)
2 workstations not joined to any server yet
Dlink router with an cable connection with static ip


I want to use DFS replication to replicate the data from the main office
server to the remote office server so the workstations at the remote office
can work locally off the new server just installed.

Should i put in a VPN site to site first and try to get the remote office
server to join the active directory? I feel trying with out the vpn will
hurt security because of having to open up alot of ports.

Am i thinking right here??? I have tested this on my LAN and it works
fine....... but when i throw the WAN in there i am getting lost since this
one is my first?

thx
jeff


 
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      01-05-2007, 01:34 AM

"jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a scerio for a client that i need expert advice with:
>
> Main office - Win2003 R2 - main domain controller
> 10 workstations running XP
> Dlink router with an cable connection with static ip
>
> Remote office - Win2003 R2 - (just put in temporarily)
> 2 workstations not joined to any server yet
> Dlink router with an cable connection with static ip
>
>
> I want to use DFS replication to replicate the data from the main office
> server to the remote office server so the workstations at the remote
> office can work locally off the new server just installed.
>
> Should i put in a VPN site to site first and try to get the remote office
> server to join the active directory? I feel trying with out the vpn will
> hurt security because of having to open up alot of ports.
>
> Am i thinking right here??? I have tested this on my LAN and it works
> fine....... but when i throw the WAN in there i am getting lost since this
> one is my first?
>
> thx
> jeff
>
>


I believe you will want to set up a VPN tunnel between the routers, then add
the second server. Since you have the same routers at both ends and static
IPs on both you should be able to do this.

There are many many variables here. Off-hand, I wouldn't want to rely on DFS
over a WAN link, but...

Also, you don't say if you want all to be on the same domain. Is the second
server going to be a DC on the same domain?

-Frank


 
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      01-05-2007, 02:22 AM
Yes i want the remote office to be on the same domain as the main office????

I would have thought the DFS would have worked on these cable
connections?????

thx
jeff


"Frankster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have a scerio for a client that i need expert advice with:
>>
>> Main office - Win2003 R2 - main domain controller
>> 10 workstations running XP
>> Dlink router with an cable connection with static ip
>>
>> Remote office - Win2003 R2 - (just put in temporarily)
>> 2 workstations not joined to any server yet
>> Dlink router with an cable connection with static ip
>>
>>
>> I want to use DFS replication to replicate the data from the main office
>> server to the remote office server so the workstations at the remote
>> office can work locally off the new server just installed.
>>
>> Should i put in a VPN site to site first and try to get the remote office
>> server to join the active directory? I feel trying with out the vpn will
>> hurt security because of having to open up alot of ports.
>>
>> Am i thinking right here??? I have tested this on my LAN and it works
>> fine....... but when i throw the WAN in there i am getting lost since
>> this one is my first?
>>
>> thx
>> jeff
>>
>>

>
> I believe you will want to set up a VPN tunnel between the routers, then
> add the second server. Since you have the same routers at both ends and
> static IPs on both you should be able to do this.
>
> There are many many variables here. Off-hand, I wouldn't want to rely on
> DFS over a WAN link, but...
>
> Also, you don't say if you want all to be on the same domain. Is the
> second server going to be a DC on the same domain?
>
> -Frank
>



 
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      01-05-2007, 01:29 PM
Yes, it should "work". Just keep in mind that cable connections, although
pretty fast inbound, are probably pretty slow outbound. Anyway, I have no
idea of the amount of data, or what your business needs are. So I can't
really say much one way or another. DFS might be the best solution. Just
depends.

-Frank

"jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:uw3$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yes i want the remote office to be on the same domain as the main
> office????
>
> I would have thought the DFS would have worked on these cable
> connections?????
>
> thx
> jeff
>
>
> "Frankster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) ...
>>
>> "jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I have a scerio for a client that i need expert advice with:
>>>
>>> Main office - Win2003 R2 - main domain controller
>>> 10 workstations running XP
>>> Dlink router with an cable connection with static ip
>>>
>>> Remote office - Win2003 R2 - (just put in temporarily)
>>> 2 workstations not joined to any server yet
>>> Dlink router with an cable connection with static ip
>>>
>>>
>>> I want to use DFS replication to replicate the data from the main office
>>> server to the remote office server so the workstations at the remote
>>> office can work locally off the new server just installed.
>>>
>>> Should i put in a VPN site to site first and try to get the remote
>>> office server to join the active directory? I feel trying with out the
>>> vpn will hurt security because of having to open up alot of ports.
>>>
>>> Am i thinking right here??? I have tested this on my LAN and it works
>>> fine....... but when i throw the WAN in there i am getting lost since
>>> this one is my first?
>>>
>>> thx
>>> jeff
>>>
>>>

>>
>> I believe you will want to set up a VPN tunnel between the routers, then
>> add the second server. Since you have the same routers at both ends and
>> static IPs on both you should be able to do this.
>>
>> There are many many variables here. Off-hand, I wouldn't want to rely on
>> DFS over a WAN link, but...
>>
>> Also, you don't say if you want all to be on the same domain. Is the
>> second server going to be a DC on the same domain?
>>
>> -Frank
>>

>
>



 
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      01-05-2007, 05:40 PM
Thx Franster........

Do you know if DFS will work properly for program files or is it just for
data only?
The company uses one large program for insurance it has a data folder below
it. Well they want to be able to use the program at the main office and the
remote?
Right now i have them setup with terminal services but they want the
replication of DFS at each end and have the users be able to work on their
local servers for more reliabiltiy?




"Frankster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) ...
> Yes, it should "work". Just keep in mind that cable connections, although
> pretty fast inbound, are probably pretty slow outbound. Anyway, I have no
> idea of the amount of data, or what your business needs are. So I can't
> really say much one way or another. DFS might be the best solution. Just
> depends.
>
> -Frank
>
> "jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:uw3$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Yes i want the remote office to be on the same domain as the main
>> office????
>>
>> I would have thought the DFS would have worked on these cable
>> connections?????
>>
>> thx
>> jeff
>>
>>
>> "Frankster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed) ...
>>>
>>> "jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>I have a scerio for a client that i need expert advice with:
>>>>
>>>> Main office - Win2003 R2 - main domain controller
>>>> 10 workstations running XP
>>>> Dlink router with an cable connection with static ip
>>>>
>>>> Remote office - Win2003 R2 - (just put in temporarily)
>>>> 2 workstations not joined to any server yet
>>>> Dlink router with an cable connection with static ip
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I want to use DFS replication to replicate the data from the main
>>>> office server to the remote office server so the workstations at the
>>>> remote office can work locally off the new server just installed.
>>>>
>>>> Should i put in a VPN site to site first and try to get the remote
>>>> office server to join the active directory? I feel trying with out the
>>>> vpn will hurt security because of having to open up alot of ports.
>>>>
>>>> Am i thinking right here??? I have tested this on my LAN and it works
>>>> fine....... but when i throw the WAN in there i am getting lost since
>>>> this one is my first?
>>>>
>>>> thx
>>>> jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I believe you will want to set up a VPN tunnel between the routers, then
>>> add the second server. Since you have the same routers at both ends and
>>> static IPs on both you should be able to do this.
>>>
>>> There are many many variables here. Off-hand, I wouldn't want to rely on
>>> DFS over a WAN link, but...
>>>
>>> Also, you don't say if you want all to be on the same domain. Is the
>>> second server going to be a DC on the same domain?
>>>
>>> -Frank
>>>

>>
>>

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      01-05-2007, 06:11 PM
DFS is just a "convenient to manage" file storage system. It doesn't
interact directly with uniquely designed database programs. It just provides
a shared disk, just like any other disk, except configurable between
systems.

As for your best solution... I would be contacting the vendor of your "large
program for insurance" and ask them the best solution. It is their product
and they should be able to tell you what technology is best for using it
across geographically separated offices. Everything depends on the program,
it's databases, and how they are used internally. Something only that vendor
would know. Or... you should read the administration manual for that
program and see if it offers any clues.

-Frank

"jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thx Franster........
>
> Do you know if DFS will work properly for program files or is it just for
> data only?
> The company uses one large program for insurance it has a data folder
> below it. Well they want to be able to use the program at the main office
> and the remote?
> Right now i have them setup with terminal services but they want the
> replication of DFS at each end and have the users be able to work on their
> local servers for more reliabiltiy?
>
>
>
>
> "Frankster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) ...
>> Yes, it should "work". Just keep in mind that cable connections, although
>> pretty fast inbound, are probably pretty slow outbound. Anyway, I have
>> no idea of the amount of data, or what your business needs are. So I
>> can't really say much one way or another. DFS might be the best solution.
>> Just depends.
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>> "jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:uw3$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Yes i want the remote office to be on the same domain as the main
>>> office????
>>>
>>> I would have thought the DFS would have worked on these cable
>>> connections?????
>>>
>>> thx
>>> jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> "Frankster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed) ...
>>>>
>>>> "jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>I have a scerio for a client that i need expert advice with:
>>>>>
>>>>> Main office - Win2003 R2 - main domain controller
>>>>> 10 workstations running XP
>>>>> Dlink router with an cable connection with static ip
>>>>>
>>>>> Remote office - Win2003 R2 - (just put in temporarily)
>>>>> 2 workstations not joined to any server yet
>>>>> Dlink router with an cable connection with static ip
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to use DFS replication to replicate the data from the main
>>>>> office server to the remote office server so the workstations at the
>>>>> remote office can work locally off the new server just installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should i put in a VPN site to site first and try to get the remote
>>>>> office server to join the active directory? I feel trying with out
>>>>> the vpn will hurt security because of having to open up alot of ports.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am i thinking right here??? I have tested this on my LAN and it works
>>>>> fine....... but when i throw the WAN in there i am getting lost since
>>>>> this one is my first?
>>>>>
>>>>> thx
>>>>> jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe you will want to set up a VPN tunnel between the routers,
>>>> then add the second server. Since you have the same routers at both
>>>> ends and static IPs on both you should be able to do this.
>>>>
>>>> There are many many variables here. Off-hand, I wouldn't want to rely
>>>> on DFS over a WAN link, but...
>>>>
>>>> Also, you don't say if you want all to be on the same domain. Is the
>>>> second server going to be a DC on the same domain?
>>>>
>>>> -Frank
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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