"My Network Places" on a subnetted network

Hi all,

We recently subnetted our network. Whereas before we had a 1 large Class B
network, we have now implemented VLAN's and use a Class C mask. Since this
change we have found that browsing "My Network Places" does not work as
before. Our research suggests that this is because the server that is the
master browser is NOT on the same subnet as the workstations. The
workstations are XP PRO SP3 and have the computer browser service disabled by
policy. We have 1 AD domain and use WINS\DHCP\DNS on the network. All the
ADC's run on Windows Server 2003.

We use a 3rd party product and they have told us that there application
depends all computers in the domain showing up in "My Network Places". Deos
anyone know how we get "My Network Places" to show all computers in the
domain regardless of subnet?

T.

"Terri Champlin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:A113D771-08C9-4F16-BDEC-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi all,
>
> We recently subnetted our network. Whereas before we had a 1 large Class
> B
> network, we have now implemented VLAN's and use a Class C mask. Since
> this
> change we have found that browsing "My Network Places" does not work as
> before. Our research suggests that this is because the server that is the
> master browser is NOT on the same subnet as the workstations. The
> workstations are XP PRO SP3 and have the computer browser service disabled
> by
> policy. We have 1 AD domain and use WINS\DHCP\DNS on the network. All
> the
> ADC's run on Windows Server 2003.
>
> We use a 3rd party product and they have told us that there application
> depends all computers in the domain showing up in "My Network Places".
> Deos
> anyone know how we get "My Network Places" to show all computers in the
> domain regardless of subnet?
>
> T.

The computer browser service (which produces the browse list you see in
network places) uses Netbios names and LAN broadcasts. Once you subnet the
network you lose it because the LAN broadcasts are blocked by the routers.

WINS will get around the problem if it is configured properly. It allows
the master browsers in each segment to contact the domain master browser and
build a network-wide browse list.

Make sure that all machines are registering in WINS. Also make sure that
all machines are set as WINS clients. If they use WINS to find the DMB they
should get the full browse list.

The browser service is an NT legacy app so the KBs are old. See
KB150800, 188001 and 188305.

We had turned off that service on all workstations which now are on their own
subnet. It appears that we have to turn it back on so that at least one
"box" in each subnet becomes that master browser for that segment. Is this
correct?

"Bill Grant" wrote:

>
>
> "Terri Champlin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:A113D771-08C9-4F16-BDEC-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We recently subnetted our network. Whereas before we had a 1 large Class
> > B
> > network, we have now implemented VLAN's and use a Class C mask. Since
> > this
> > change we have found that browsing "My Network Places" does not work as
> > before. Our research suggests that this is because the server that is the
> > master browser is NOT on the same subnet as the workstations. The
> > workstations are XP PRO SP3 and have the computer browser service disabled
> > by
> > policy. We have 1 AD domain and use WINS\DHCP\DNS on the network. All
> > the
> > ADC's run on Windows Server 2003.
> >
> > We use a 3rd party product and they have told us that there application
> > depends all computers in the domain showing up in "My Network Places".
> > Deos
> > anyone know how we get "My Network Places" to show all computers in the
> > domain regardless of subnet?
> >
> > T.
>
> The computer browser service (which produces the browse list you see in
> network places) uses Netbios names and LAN broadcasts. Once you subnet the
> network you lose it because the LAN broadcasts are blocked by the routers.
>
> WINS will get around the problem if it is configured properly. It allows
> the master browsers in each segment to contact the domain master browser and
> build a network-wide browse list.
>
> Make sure that all machines are registering in WINS. Also make sure that
> all machines are set as WINS clients. If they use WINS to find the DMB they
> should get the full browse list.
>
> The browser service is an NT legacy app so the KBs are old. See
> KB150800, 188001 and 188305.
>
>
>
>

Yes. At least one machine in each segment must be running the computer
browser service so that it can act as the segment browse master. I would
have at least two so that you have a backup browser.

"Terri Champlin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:4F3899C8-DA22-4340-97BB-(E-Mail Removed)...
> We had turned off that service on all workstations which now are on their
> own
> subnet. It appears that we have to turn it back on so that at least one
> "box" in each subnet becomes that master browser for that segment. Is
> this
> correct?
>
> "Bill Grant" wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Terri Champlin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> message
>> news:A113D771-08C9-4F16-BDEC-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > We recently subnetted our network. Whereas before we had a 1 large
>> > Class
>> > B
>> > network, we have now implemented VLAN's and use a Class C mask. Since
>> > this
>> > change we have found that browsing "My Network Places" does not work as
>> > before. Our research suggests that this is because the server that is
>> > the
>> > master browser is NOT on the same subnet as the workstations. The
>> > workstations are XP PRO SP3 and have the computer browser service
>> > disabled
>> > by
>> > policy. We have 1 AD domain and use WINS\DHCP\DNS on the network. All
>> > the
>> > ADC's run on Windows Server 2003.
>> >
>> > We use a 3rd party product and they have told us that there application
>> > depends all computers in the domain showing up in "My Network Places".
>> > Deos
>> > anyone know how we get "My Network Places" to show all computers in the
>> > domain regardless of subnet?
>> >
>> > T.
>>
>> The computer browser service (which produces the browse list you see
>> in
>> network places) uses Netbios names and LAN broadcasts. Once you subnet
>> the
>> network you lose it because the LAN broadcasts are blocked by the
>> routers.
>>
>> WINS will get around the problem if it is configured properly. It
>> allows
>> the master browsers in each segment to contact the domain master browser
>> and
>> build a network-wide browse list.
>>
>> Make sure that all machines are registering in WINS. Also make sure
>> that
>> all machines are set as WINS clients. If they use WINS to find the DMB
>> they
>> should get the full browse list.
>>
>> The browser service is an NT legacy app so the KBs are old. See
>> KB150800, 188001 and 188305.
>>
>>
>>
>>