Multiple PCs on a DSL connection - single fixed IP address.

I have a fixed IP address on my Nildram-broadband-connected desktop, which suits me fine
as my desktop acts as a server for some Palm handheld wireless applications.

I'm using a PCI card for my desktop - Internet connection.

I also have a small Ethernet network, to connect my desktop, laptop, and a Unix box.

The desktop is 98 SE, the laptop is 2000.

What's the easiest way to access Internet on the laptop? I don't mind upgrading or
replacing components, but I don't want to pay more for the connectivity.

Thanks in advance,
Steve T

Steve T wrote:

> What's the easiest way to access Internet on the laptop? I don't mind upgrading or
> replacing components, but I don't want to pay more for the connectivity.

Just add a ADSL Router with NAT (i.e. pretty much any of them). That
connects you your phone line and your ethernet, and allows all the
devices on the ethernet to share the broadband connection concurrently.


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> I'm using a PCI card for my desktop - Internet connection.
>
> I also have a small Ethernet network, to connect my desktop, laptop, and a
Unix box.
>
> The desktop is 98 SE, the laptop is 2000.
>
> What's the easiest way to access Internet on the laptop? I don't mind
upgrading or
> replacing components, but I don't want to pay more for the connectivity.

I may have missed something obvious, but it sounds to me like all you need
to do is run 'internet connection sharing' on the Win98SE machine, and point
the laptop to it.
ICS can be found on the Win98SE CD if it isn't already installed on your
machine.

HTH,
Dan.

> > What's the easiest way to access Internet on the laptop? I don't mind
upgrading or
> > replacing components, but I don't want to pay more for the connectivity.
>
> Just add a ADSL Router with NAT (i.e. pretty much any of them). That
> connects you your phone line and your ethernet, and allows all the
> devices on the ethernet to share the broadband connection concurrently.

Or just turn on ICS on the desktop machine in the dial up networking
settings.

In article <Jaihb.5835$(E-Mail Removed)>, Dan Wood wrote:
> > What's the easiest way to access Internet on the laptop? I don't mind
> upgrading or
> > replacing components, but I don't want to pay more for the connectivity.
>
> I may have missed something obvious, but it sounds to me like all you need
> to do is run 'internet connection sharing' on the Win98SE machine, and point
> the laptop to it.
> ICS can be found on the Win98SE CD if it isn't already installed on your
> machine.

This is true. I've tried it and it does work. The disadvantage is that the
computer that is connected to the net has to be up and running for the other
one to be able to connect. Using a router and hub means you can use any machine
on your network whatever the state of the others.

Rod.

"Nat Stott" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:vlihb.5841$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > What's the easiest way to access Internet on the laptop? I don't mind
> upgrading or
> > > replacing components, but I don't want to pay more for the connectivity.
> >
> > Just add a ADSL Router with NAT (i.e. pretty much any of them). That
> > connects you your phone line and your ethernet, and allows all the
> > devices on the ethernet to share the broadband connection concurrently.
>
> Or just turn on ICS on the desktop machine in the dial up networking
> settings.
>

I thought this might be an answer. I tried ICS but I couldn't get a configuration to work
between 98SE and 2000 -- and the friendly configuration diskettes that ICS create aren't
cross-Windows compatible.

But I'm thinking of upgrading the desktop to a new XP machine -- so it may work then, he
said hopefully.

Thanks for your reply.

"John Rumm" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:PQhhb.5820$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Steve T wrote:
>
> > What's the easiest way to access Internet on the laptop? I don't mind upgrading or
> > replacing components, but I don't want to pay more for the connectivity.
>
> Just add a ADSL Router with NAT (i.e. pretty much any of them). That
> connects you your phone line and your ethernet, and allows all the
> devices on the ethernet to share the broadband connection concurrently.


I'm a little foggy as to what IP addressing I should use. The desktop would still be my
'fixed' IP address supplied by Nildram, but I only have one of those.

What address should I assign the laptop? I assume it has to be within the same subnet
mask, which is I'm sure a no-no since some other guy out there is probably using whatever
subnet compatible number I pull out of thin air.

Thanks for your reply.

"Dan Wood" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Jaihb.5835$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> > I'm using a PCI card for my desktop - Internet connection.
> >
> > I also have a small Ethernet network, to connect my desktop, laptop, and a
> Unix box.
> >
> > The desktop is 98 SE, the laptop is 2000.
> >
> > What's the easiest way to access Internet on the laptop? I don't mind
> upgrading or
> > replacing components, but I don't want to pay more for the connectivity.
>
> I may have missed something obvious, but it sounds to me like all you need
> to do is run 'internet connection sharing' on the Win98SE machine, and point
> the laptop to it.
> ICS can be found on the Win98SE CD if it isn't already installed on your
> machine.
>
> HTH,
> Dan.


I installed it, but I couldn't get it to work between 98SE and 2000 -- if others have
gotten it to work, maybe I should give it another go.

I'm seriously considering upgrading the laptop to an XP machine, so it may be a moot
point -- but if anybody has gotten Internet Connection Sharing between 98SE and 2000 I'd
like to hear about it.

Thanks for your reply.

"Roderick Stewart" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <Jaihb.5835$(E-Mail Removed)>, Dan Wood wrote:
> > > What's the easiest way to access Internet on the laptop? I don't mind
> > upgrading or
> > > replacing components, but I don't want to pay more for the connectivity.
> >
> > I may have missed something obvious, but it sounds to me like all you need
> > to do is run 'internet connection sharing' on the Win98SE machine, and point
> > the laptop to it.
> > ICS can be found on the Win98SE CD if it isn't already installed on your
> > machine.
>
> This is true. I've tried it and it does work. The disadvantage is that the
> computer that is connected to the net has to be up and running for the other
> one to be able to connect.

I can live with that. Did you get it working between 98SE and 2000 Pro?

> Using a router and hub means you can use any machine
> on your network whatever the state of the others.

Then my headache is the IP addressing....

Thanks for your reply.

> > Just add a ADSL Router with NAT (i.e. pretty much any of them). That
> > connects you your phone line and your ethernet, and allows all the
> > devices on the ethernet to share the broadband connection concurrently.
> I'm a little foggy as to what IP addressing I should use. The desktop would still be my
> 'fixed' IP address supplied by Nildram, but I only have one of those.
> What address should I assign the laptop?

If you use a router, the router will usually assign the IP addresses for
your "internal" machines itself - the "external" IP address assigned by
your ISP will only apply to the router

NAT translation will keep track of connections from either of your
"internal" machines and direct the traffic accordingly when it comes back
from the "external" internet, ie. PC#1 is using port 80, and PC#2 is
using port 21 - when the packets return from the remote servers, the
router will send the correct data to the appropriate IP address that it
gave to your machines on the "internal" side of the network.

Hackers, in theory, will not be able to gain direct access to your PCs
because they only know the "external" IP address which stops at the
router. Because a hacker will try to use ports that the router wasn`t
expecting traffic on they`re ignored. The router (and any machines it
gave an IP address to) are the only ones to know what is in use on the
"internal" side of things.

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