Multiple MN-740s System Link Problem

Greetings,

I recently bought a second xbox and added it to my network
with a second MN-740 wireless bridge, so both of my units
are connected to the network with their own MN-740 bridge.

They both work fine independently, but I cannot get them
to communicate together for system link play, when BOTH MN-
740s are present on my network. I can start and see a
game between the units, but the connection will be
immediately lost, then back on, lost, and so on.

If I remove one of the MN-740s from the network, hook the
second xbox directly into a hub, it works fine, but as
soon as I add the second MN-740, the failures start right
back up, even if the MN-740 isn't even connected to the
xbox. Its sheer presence on the network immediately
causes failure. Like there is some sort of conflict
between the 2 units that confusing the network.

Can 2 MN-740s only work together, for system link play, in
ad hoc mode? Doesn't seem to make sense to me that this
would be the case, but I'm at a loss otherwise.

How close ar the 2 MN-740's? If they are close enough you could use a
switch or an evil hub between the wireless bridge and them.

John wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I recently bought a second xbox and added it to my network
> with a second MN-740 wireless bridge, so both of my units
> are connected to the network with their own MN-740 bridge.
>
> They both work fine independently, but I cannot get them
> to communicate together for system link play, when BOTH MN-
> 740s are present on my network. I can start and see a
> game between the units, but the connection will be
> immediately lost, then back on, lost, and so on.
>
> If I remove one of the MN-740s from the network, hook the
> second xbox directly into a hub, it works fine, but as
> soon as I add the second MN-740, the failures start right
> back up, even if the MN-740 isn't even connected to the
> xbox. Its sheer presence on the network immediately
> causes failure. Like there is some sort of conflict
> between the 2 units that confusing the network.
>
> Can 2 MN-740s only work together, for system link play, in
> ad hoc mode? Doesn't seem to make sense to me that this
> would be the case, but I'm at a loss otherwise.
>

They're 2 floors apart, so unforunately, this isn't an
option for me.

Actually, I didn't mention this in my post, but the second
MN-740 is on a switch, with my XBOX and Tivo hooked into
the switch as well. Though, in testing, regardless as to
whether the second MN-740 is connected in via a separate
port on the switch, or directly into the XBOX (with the
switch eliminiated), either way, attemping a system link
game fails.

Are you confirming, based on your reply, that System Link
won't work in infrastructure mode across 2 wirless MN-740
bridges?


>-----Original Message-----
>How close ar the 2 MN-740's? If they are close enough
you could use a
>switch or an evil hub between the wireless bridge and
them.
>
>John wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I recently bought a second xbox and added it to my
network
>> with a second MN-740 wireless bridge, so both of my
units
>> are connected to the network with their own MN-740
bridge.
>>
>> They both work fine independently, but I cannot get
them
>> to communicate together for system link play, when BOTH
MN-
>> 740s are present on my network. I can start and see a
>> game between the units, but the connection will be
>> immediately lost, then back on, lost, and so on.
>>
>> If I remove one of the MN-740s from the network, hook
the
>> second xbox directly into a hub, it works fine, but as
>> soon as I add the second MN-740, the failures start
right
>> back up, even if the MN-740 isn't even connected to the
>> xbox. Its sheer presence on the network immediately
>> causes failure. Like there is some sort of conflict
>> between the 2 units that confusing the network.
>>
>> Can 2 MN-740s only work together, for system link play,
in
>> ad hoc mode? Doesn't seem to make sense to me that
this
>> would be the case, but I'm at a loss otherwise.
>>
>
>.
>

When you're on the Internet portion of the connection, you're using
Infrastructure as the setting, so you're getting Internet feed to Xbox Live!
Go into the Dashboard on each Xbox and set them to System Link.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1bf301c443f6$bd9cc440$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Greetings,
>
> I recently bought a second xbox and added it to my network
> with a second MN-740 wireless bridge, so both of my units
> are connected to the network with their own MN-740 bridge.
>
> They both work fine independently, but I cannot get them
> to communicate together for system link play, when BOTH MN-
> 740s are present on my network. I can start and see a
> game between the units, but the connection will be
> immediately lost, then back on, lost, and so on.
>
> If I remove one of the MN-740s from the network, hook the
> second xbox directly into a hub, it works fine, but as
> soon as I add the second MN-740, the failures start right
> back up, even if the MN-740 isn't even connected to the
> xbox. Its sheer presence on the network immediately
> causes failure. Like there is some sort of conflict
> between the 2 units that confusing the network.
>
> Can 2 MN-740s only work together, for system link play, in
> ad hoc mode? Doesn't seem to make sense to me that this
> would be the case, but I'm at a loss otherwise.
>

Hi Chris,

Thanks for your reply. I aplogize for my apparanet
ignorance, but I don't recall a direct 'System Link'
setting / option available via the dashboard (I'm not at
home right now to check).

I do recall selecting "infrastructure" versus "ad-hoc".
Are you equating "ad-hoc" to "system link" mode? This
would be a real pain in the butt if I have to change
between these each time...

>-----Original Message-----
>When you're on the Internet portion of the connection,
you're using
>Infrastructure as the setting, so you're getting Internet
feed to Xbox Live!
>Go into the Dashboard on each Xbox and set them to System
Link.
>--
>Chris H.
>Microsoft Windows MVP
>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>Associate Expert
>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
>"John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>news:1bf301c443f6$bd9cc440$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I recently bought a second xbox and added it to my
network
>> with a second MN-740 wireless bridge, so both of my
units
>> are connected to the network with their own MN-740
bridge.
>>
>> They both work fine independently, but I cannot get them
>> to communicate together for system link play, when BOTH
MN-
>> 740s are present on my network. I can start and see a
>> game between the units, but the connection will be
>> immediately lost, then back on, lost, and so on.
>>
>> If I remove one of the MN-740s from the network, hook
the
>> second xbox directly into a hub, it works fine, but as
>> soon as I add the second MN-740, the failures start
right
>> back up, even if the MN-740 isn't even connected to the
>> xbox. Its sheer presence on the network immediately
>> causes failure. Like there is some sort of conflict
>> between the 2 units that confusing the network.
>>
>> Can 2 MN-740s only work together, for system link play,
in
>> ad hoc mode? Doesn't seem to make sense to me that this
>> would be the case, but I'm at a loss otherwise.
>>
>
>
>.
>

Also, one other point, to confuse the matter worse, is
that I don't have to change any values / settings, i.e. I
always leave in standard infrastructure mode when
connecting both xboxes in a wired environment, i.e. both
connected to a switch, and it works just fine...

Or, one wirless, via the bridge, one wired, it also works
just fine. Just by powering up / adding the second
bridge, all "heck" breaks loose...

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Chris,
>
>Thanks for your reply. I aplogize for my apparanet
>ignorance, but I don't recall a direct 'System Link'
>setting / option available via the dashboard (I'm not at
>home right now to check).
>
>I do recall selecting "infrastructure" versus "ad-hoc".
>Are you equating "ad-hoc" to "system link" mode? This
>would be a real pain in the butt if I have to change
>between these each time...
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>When you're on the Internet portion of the connection,
>you're using
>>Infrastructure as the setting, so you're getting
Internet
>feed to Xbox Live!
>>Go into the Dashboard on each Xbox and set them to
System
>Link.
>>--
>>Chris H.
>>Microsoft Windows MVP
>>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>Associate Expert
>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>>"John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>message
>>news:1bf301c443f6$bd9cc440$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I recently bought a second xbox and added it to my
>network
>>> with a second MN-740 wireless bridge, so both of my
>units
>>> are connected to the network with their own MN-740
>bridge.
>>>
>>> They both work fine independently, but I cannot get
them
>>> to communicate together for system link play, when
BOTH
>MN-
>>> 740s are present on my network. I can start and see a
>>> game between the units, but the connection will be
>>> immediately lost, then back on, lost, and so on.
>>>
>>> If I remove one of the MN-740s from the network, hook
>the
>>> second xbox directly into a hub, it works fine, but as
>>> soon as I add the second MN-740, the failures start
>right
>>> back up, even if the MN-740 isn't even connected to the
>>> xbox. Its sheer presence on the network immediately
>>> causes failure. Like there is some sort of conflict
>>> between the 2 units that confusing the network.
>>>
>>> Can 2 MN-740s only work together, for system link
play,
>in
>>> ad hoc mode? Doesn't seem to make sense to me that
this
>>> would be the case, but I'm at a loss otherwise.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

I searched through the forums at Xbox.com and one of the suggestions is to
clone each Xbox MAC address to the respective MN-740. I haven't done this,
not having a second Xbox at the present time, and only using a System Link
cable previously.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:13c9f01c44410$ef618e10$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Also, one other point, to confuse the matter worse, is
> that I don't have to change any values / settings, i.e. I
> always leave in standard infrastructure mode when
> connecting both xboxes in a wired environment, i.e. both
> connected to a switch, and it works just fine...
>
> Or, one wirless, via the bridge, one wired, it also works
> just fine. Just by powering up / adding the second
> bridge, all "heck" breaks loose...
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi Chris,
>>
>>Thanks for your reply. I aplogize for my apparanet
>>ignorance, but I don't recall a direct 'System Link'
>>setting / option available via the dashboard (I'm not at
>>home right now to check).
>>
>>I do recall selecting "infrastructure" versus "ad-hoc".
>>Are you equating "ad-hoc" to "system link" mode? This
>>would be a real pain in the butt if I have to change
>>between these each time...
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>When you're on the Internet portion of the connection,
>>you're using
>>>Infrastructure as the setting, so you're getting
> Internet
>>feed to Xbox Live!
>>>Go into the Dashboard on each Xbox and set them to
> System
>>Link.
>>>--
>>>Chris H.
>>>Microsoft Windows MVP
>>>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>>Associate Expert
>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>>message
>>>news:1bf301c443f6$bd9cc440$(E-Mail Removed).. .
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> I recently bought a second xbox and added it to my
>>network
>>>> with a second MN-740 wireless bridge, so both of my
>>units
>>>> are connected to the network with their own MN-740
>>bridge.
>>>>
>>>> They both work fine independently, but I cannot get
> them
>>>> to communicate together for system link play, when
> BOTH
>>MN-
>>>> 740s are present on my network. I can start and see a
>>>> game between the units, but the connection will be
>>>> immediately lost, then back on, lost, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> If I remove one of the MN-740s from the network, hook
>>the
>>>> second xbox directly into a hub, it works fine, but as
>>>> soon as I add the second MN-740, the failures start
>>right
>>>> back up, even if the MN-740 isn't even connected to the
>>>> xbox. Its sheer presence on the network immediately
>>>> causes failure. Like there is some sort of conflict
>>>> between the 2 units that confusing the network.
>>>>
>>>> Can 2 MN-740s only work together, for system link
> play,
>>in
>>>> ad hoc mode? Doesn't seem to make sense to me that
> this
>>>> would be the case, but I'm at a loss otherwise.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>

I haven't used a MN-740 so I don't know it's limitations. My xbox is
right next to my MN-500. The evil part is because I despise hubs.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> They're 2 floors apart, so unforunately, this isn't an
> option for me.
>
> Actually, I didn't mention this in my post, but the second
> MN-740 is on a switch, with my XBOX and Tivo hooked into
> the switch as well. Though, in testing, regardless as to
> whether the second MN-740 is connected in via a separate
> port on the switch, or directly into the XBOX (with the
> switch eliminiated), either way, attemping a system link
> game fails.
>
> Are you confirming, based on your reply, that System Link
> won't work in infrastructure mode across 2 wirless MN-740
> bridges?
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>How close ar the 2 MN-740's? If they are close enough
>
> you could use a
>
>>switch or an evil hub between the wireless bridge and
>
> them.
>
>>John wrote:
>>
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>I recently bought a second xbox and added it to my
>
> network
>
>>>with a second MN-740 wireless bridge, so both of my
>
> units
>
>>>are connected to the network with their own MN-740
>
> bridge.
>
>>>They both work fine independently, but I cannot get
>
> them
>
>>>to communicate together for system link play, when BOTH
>
> MN-
>
>>>740s are present on my network. I can start and see a
>>>game between the units, but the connection will be
>>>immediately lost, then back on, lost, and so on.
>>>
>>>If I remove one of the MN-740s from the network, hook
>
> the
>
>>>second xbox directly into a hub, it works fine, but as
>>>soon as I add the second MN-740, the failures start
>
> right
>
>>>back up, even if the MN-740 isn't even connected to the
>>>xbox. Its sheer presence on the network immediately
>>>causes failure. Like there is some sort of conflict
>>>between the 2 units that confusing the network.
>>>
>>>Can 2 MN-740s only work together, for system link play,
>
> in
>
>>>ad hoc mode? Doesn't seem to make sense to me that
>
> this
>
>>>would be the case, but I'm at a loss otherwise.
>>>
>>
>>.
>>