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Joe
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      03-19-2007, 10:18 AM
Helllo,
I have an issue where I can get multiple IP's with my account but because it
is a cable company the IP's have to be mapped to a MAC address for them to be
assigned as static.

Is there anyway around this issue.


for instance:
I don't need 10 routers so I can have 10 static IP's
Thank you
Joe
 
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      03-19-2007, 12:36 PM
You didn't state Public or Private IPs. Which is it that you can get and
which is it that you need?

-Frank

"Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:6FF8F627-8EF7-4FE2-8014-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Helllo,
> I have an issue where I can get multiple IP's with my account but because
> it
> is a cable company the IP's have to be mapped to a MAC address for them to
> be
> assigned as static.
>
> Is there anyway around this issue.
>
>
> for instance:
> I don't need 10 routers so I can have 10 static IP's
> Thank you
> Joe


 
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      03-19-2007, 02:33 PM
Hello Frankster,

I need Public IP's

They offer 10 public IP's wih their gold packages however the scenario is as
previously stated on order to get them assigned

"Frankster" wrote:

> You didn't state Public or Private IPs. Which is it that you can get and
> which is it that you need?
>
> -Frank
>
> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:6FF8F627-8EF7-4FE2-8014-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Helllo,
> > I have an issue where I can get multiple IP's with my account but because
> > it
> > is a cable company the IP's have to be mapped to a MAC address for them to
> > be
> > assigned as static.
> >
> > Is there anyway around this issue.
> >
> >
> > for instance:
> > I don't need 10 routers so I can have 10 static IP's
> > Thank you
> > Joe

>
>

 
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      03-19-2007, 03:14 PM
Well, you'll need to describe your intent. Why can't you place 10 servers
directly on the Internet with static Public IPs?

Now, you may say, whoa... security! Well, elaborate! What is your intended
goal/requirements.

-Frank

"Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:5FF0893A-91D9-46FB-AF98-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello Frankster,
>
> I need Public IP's
>
> They offer 10 public IP's wih their gold packages however the scenario is
> as
> previously stated on order to get them assigned
>
> "Frankster" wrote:
>
>> You didn't state Public or Private IPs. Which is it that you can get and
>> which is it that you need?
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:6FF8F627-8EF7-4FE2-8014-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Helllo,
>> > I have an issue where I can get multiple IP's with my account but
>> > because
>> > it
>> > is a cable company the IP's have to be mapped to a MAC address for them
>> > to
>> > be
>> > assigned as static.
>> >
>> > Is there anyway around this issue.
>> >
>> >
>> > for instance:
>> > I don't need 10 routers so I can have 10 static IP's
>> > Thank you
>> > Joe

>>
>>


 
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      03-19-2007, 03:44 PM
Hello Frankster,

Well it is for hosting and mailservers I am doing it now on a F/T1 but I can
get better speeds for a lot less money. So I thought about the 10 servers
directly on the net but that would eliminate my LAN network which I need. Web
applications need to mail out from a central location and/or I could install
the mail servers on each box. Sounds abit much if you could just get a
Firebox and the IP all sent to a router that handles this

Thanks

"Frankster" wrote:

> Well, you'll need to describe your intent. Why can't you place 10 servers
> directly on the Internet with static Public IPs?
>
> Now, you may say, whoa... security! Well, elaborate! What is your intended
> goal/requirements.
>
> -Frank
>
> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:5FF0893A-91D9-46FB-AF98-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hello Frankster,
> >
> > I need Public IP's
> >
> > They offer 10 public IP's wih their gold packages however the scenario is
> > as
> > previously stated on order to get them assigned
> >
> > "Frankster" wrote:
> >
> >> You didn't state Public or Private IPs. Which is it that you can get and
> >> which is it that you need?
> >>
> >> -Frank
> >>
> >> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:6FF8F627-8EF7-4FE2-8014-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Helllo,
> >> > I have an issue where I can get multiple IP's with my account but
> >> > because
> >> > it
> >> > is a cable company the IP's have to be mapped to a MAC address for them
> >> > to
> >> > be
> >> > assigned as static.
> >> >
> >> > Is there anyway around this issue.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > for instance:
> >> > I don't need 10 routers so I can have 10 static IP's
> >> > Thank you
> >> > Joe
> >>
> >>

>
>

 
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      03-19-2007, 04:08 PM
Thinking more about it you can't do this in this type of environment.
I would need to add multiple IP's to one NIC or split them up between two
NICs

one for SSL hosting and one for shared.
Adding to the Available IP pool

Thanks
Joe
"Frankster" wrote:

> Well, you'll need to describe your intent. Why can't you place 10 servers
> directly on the Internet with static Public IPs?
>
> Now, you may say, whoa... security! Well, elaborate! What is your intended
> goal/requirements.
>
> -Frank
>
> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:5FF0893A-91D9-46FB-AF98-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hello Frankster,
> >
> > I need Public IP's
> >
> > They offer 10 public IP's wih their gold packages however the scenario is
> > as
> > previously stated on order to get them assigned
> >
> > "Frankster" wrote:
> >
> >> You didn't state Public or Private IPs. Which is it that you can get and
> >> which is it that you need?
> >>
> >> -Frank
> >>
> >> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:6FF8F627-8EF7-4FE2-8014-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Helllo,
> >> > I have an issue where I can get multiple IP's with my account but
> >> > because
> >> > it
> >> > is a cable company the IP's have to be mapped to a MAC address for them
> >> > to
> >> > be
> >> > assigned as static.
> >> >
> >> > Is there anyway around this issue.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > for instance:
> >> > I don't need 10 routers so I can have 10 static IP's
> >> > Thank you
> >> > Joe
> >>
> >>

>
>

 
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      03-20-2007, 03:03 AM
Plain and simple, what is your goal? I'm confused. Load balancing? What
exactly is wrong with one public IP?

-Frank

"Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:52972FC8-F1D4-4B2B-BA2C-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello Frankster,
>
> Well it is for hosting and mailservers I am doing it now on a F/T1 but I
> can
> get better speeds for a lot less money. So I thought about the 10 servers
> directly on the net but that would eliminate my LAN network which I need.
> Web
> applications need to mail out from a central location and/or I could
> install
> the mail servers on each box. Sounds abit much if you could just get a
> Firebox and the IP all sent to a router that handles this
>
> Thanks
>
> "Frankster" wrote:
>
>> Well, you'll need to describe your intent. Why can't you place 10 servers
>> directly on the Internet with static Public IPs?
>>
>> Now, you may say, whoa... security! Well, elaborate! What is your
>> intended
>> goal/requirements.
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:5FF0893A-91D9-46FB-AF98-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hello Frankster,
>> >
>> > I need Public IP's
>> >
>> > They offer 10 public IP's wih their gold packages however the scenario
>> > is
>> > as
>> > previously stated on order to get them assigned
>> >
>> > "Frankster" wrote:
>> >
>> >> You didn't state Public or Private IPs. Which is it that you can get
>> >> and
>> >> which is it that you need?
>> >>
>> >> -Frank
>> >>
>> >> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:6FF8F627-8EF7-4FE2-8014-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Helllo,
>> >> > I have an issue where I can get multiple IP's with my account but
>> >> > because
>> >> > it
>> >> > is a cable company the IP's have to be mapped to a MAC address for
>> >> > them
>> >> > to
>> >> > be
>> >> > assigned as static.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there anyway around this issue.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > for instance:
>> >> > I don't need 10 routers so I can have 10 static IP's
>> >> > Thank you
>> >> > Joe
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>


 
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      03-20-2007, 02:01 PM
The goal was just spelled out for you Hosting.
You cannot have two SSL sites on one IP so you need a block of IP's

So if I host two Ecommerce sites with shopping carts I cannot unless it is
shared.
Also I cannot use the same IP for two DNS. I cannot have two MX records and
hence a backup mail server with one IP. anything else? Also PLesk control
panels don't like that either

So back to the original question.

How do I get around the IP mapping to a MAC address instead of the normal
way that T1's and DSL's do.Do you know?

Thanks
Joe

"Frankster" wrote:

> Plain and simple, what is your goal? I'm confused. Load balancing? What
> exactly is wrong with one public IP?
>
> -Frank
>
> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:52972FC8-F1D4-4B2B-BA2C-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hello Frankster,
> >
> > Well it is for hosting and mailservers I am doing it now on a F/T1 but I
> > can
> > get better speeds for a lot less money. So I thought about the 10 servers
> > directly on the net but that would eliminate my LAN network which I need.
> > Web
> > applications need to mail out from a central location and/or I could
> > install
> > the mail servers on each box. Sounds abit much if you could just get a
> > Firebox and the IP all sent to a router that handles this
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > "Frankster" wrote:
> >
> >> Well, you'll need to describe your intent. Why can't you place 10 servers
> >> directly on the Internet with static Public IPs?
> >>
> >> Now, you may say, whoa... security! Well, elaborate! What is your
> >> intended
> >> goal/requirements.
> >>
> >> -Frank
> >>
> >> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:5FF0893A-91D9-46FB-AF98-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Hello Frankster,
> >> >
> >> > I need Public IP's
> >> >
> >> > They offer 10 public IP's wih their gold packages however the scenario
> >> > is
> >> > as
> >> > previously stated on order to get them assigned
> >> >
> >> > "Frankster" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> You didn't state Public or Private IPs. Which is it that you can get
> >> >> and
> >> >> which is it that you need?
> >> >>
> >> >> -Frank
> >> >>
> >> >> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> news:6FF8F627-8EF7-4FE2-8014-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> > Helllo,
> >> >> > I have an issue where I can get multiple IP's with my account but
> >> >> > because
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > is a cable company the IP's have to be mapped to a MAC address for
> >> >> > them
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > assigned as static.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Is there anyway around this issue.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > for instance:
> >> >> > I don't need 10 routers so I can have 10 static IP's
> >> >> > Thank you
> >> >> > Joe
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>

 
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      03-20-2007, 08:02 PM
"Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:08568EF4-C9E5-4EDB-9BCB-(E-Mail Removed)...
> The goal was just spelled out for you Hosting.
> You cannot have two SSL sites on one IP so you need a block of IP's
>
> So if I host two Ecommerce sites with shopping carts I cannot unless it is
> shared.


Create a separate shopping Cart site that all the other sites use. Only the
Domain Name matters to SSL, the rest of the URL does not. So you have two
regular sites and one Cart site:

Site1
Site2
Shopping Cart Site

Urls would look like:

www.site1.com
www.site2.com
www.shoppingcart.com/site1
www.shoppingcart.com/site2

Both of the shopping cart sites use the same IP# and same Cert, yet has a
dedicated "section" for each site that it serves. All this can be done on one
IP#,...all the sites run on the same IP# but are made distinct by Host Headers
and only the shoppingcart site uses SSL.

> Also I cannot use the same IP for two DNS.


Yes you can.

> How do I get around the IP mapping to a MAC address instead of the normal
> way that T1's and DSL's do.


I don't know what you are asking there,...but T1s and DSLs don't do anything
similar to each other.
T1s are designed for Commercial use,...DSL is design for "single user / home
user" and doesn't handle multiple IP#s very gracefully.


 
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      03-21-2007, 12:49 AM
> So I thought about the 10 servers directly on the net but that would
> eliminate my LAN network which I need.


I'm sorry, but I don't understand this either.

-Frank
 
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