How much eletricity does a modern pc use 24/7 ?

"Zapp Brannigan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Is that not a typo? When I checked my rates with Amerada online, my
> rates were as follows (prices Inc VAT)
>
>
> Gas: 1.1991 p/kwh, 28.36 £/Year Standing Charge
> Elec: 5.0295 p/kwh, 43.11 £/Year Standing Charge

OT: But have any of you been told how much Amerada online are putting
the prices up now that they have been taken over by Powergen?

The letter we got said that the gas prices were increasing to:

1.416 p/kwh, £40/Year Standing Charge

Quite a substantial increase...

I don't know about their electricity prices.

Regards
Sunil

"amstereofan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>
> 6.32 here with southern electric and 9.63 peak time, this sounds a rip
off
> to me when I read about 5.0295 ?? Is this one rate for 24hrs ?

Amerada are not accepting any more customers as they have been taken
over my Powergen.

If you want to switch energy supplier use a site like
http://www.uswitch.com/ to tell you who is cheaper for your usage and
area

Just be aware that it is often cheaper to get gas/electricity from
separate suppliers rather than getting a combined "dual duel" deal from
one

Regards
Sunil

amstereofan enlightened the world by saying on 30/08/2003 19:40:

> "Paul G" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>"Zapp Brannigan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>>>Paul G enlightened the world by saying on 28/08/2003 17:36:
>>>
>>>>I think you'll find its more than 1.3p/kWh. I'm with Amerada dual fuel
>>>>online which is suppossed to be about the cheapest and their rate
>
> works
>
>>out
>>
>>>>at 5.29p/kWh inclusive of the 5% VAT
>>>>
>>>>Paul
>>>
>>>Is that not a typo? When I checked my rates with Amerada online, my
>>>rates were as follows (prices Inc VAT)
>>>
>>>
>>>Gas: 1.1991 p/kwh, 28.36 £/Year Standing Charge
>>>Elec: 5.0295 p/kwh, 43.11 £/Year Standing Charge
>>>
>>>
>>>Note: the 5.0295 not 5.29
>>
>>Sorry it was a mistake yes! 5.0295 is the correct figure
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>
>
> 6.32 here with southern electric and 9.63 peak time, this sounds a rip off
> to me when I read about 5.0295 ?? Is this one rate for 24hrs ?

Yep single rate, yep your getting ripped off (depends on your standing
charge somewhat thou).

Unfortunalty Amerada are not taking any new customers.

I have also been keeping a close eye on charges, and will move as soon
as they start creeping up to Powergens prices.

I have however had a good deal for the last 4 years :-)

> Unless you've got free electricity, clustering solely for compute isn't
> worth it once the PCs you are clustering gets somewhere below 1/5th to
1/10th
> the performance of a new system at the peak price/performance.
> You can buy a new computer for what it'd cost to run the pile in
electricity.

That unfortunately is very true and defeated the "cluster idea" :-)
o It's also why they "change the socket" after a certain multiple
o Objective is why go A-B when you make more profit on A-B-C-D-E

That said, recycling for a collection of compute nodes is a tough
proposition
since it is running up against Moores law with no ammunition whatsoever.
Recycling for power-user - desktop-user - firewall - plant-pot is more
logical.

Seti & other screen-saver based compute link-ups make someone else pay
the electricity bill - and distribute the cooling without A/C being required
:-)

Brand ambassadors become project ambassors - who pay the elec bill :-)
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In article <bike10$mb0$(E-Mail Removed)>, Ian G Batten
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>In article <ffa3b.248$(E-Mail Removed)>,
>dorothy.bradbury <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Laptops can also be used to make Net appliances, and work ok.
>
>I've got an old 233MHz laptop which I use as a router and firewall. Not
>merely is it low power consumption, it's got a built-in UPS.
>
I would check the UPS capability. Batteries over a few years old (2
usually) tend to die within minutes of loosing mains.
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Ian Stirling <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Troy <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:20:49 +0100, Martin Cooper wrote:
>>
>>> it's a special offer in the online store, valid until 6/9/2003.
>>
>> Not just online - I got mine yesterday in my local Maplins for that price.
>> I think it's a clearance offer so better hurry.
>
> My network collection is being extremely slow today.
> Can anyone point me at an order code, or exact product description?

L61AG, for anyone else.
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Martin Cooper <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> "dorothy.bradbury" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>> Good for Linux firewall, internet box etc
>> o No display or integral 2-4 line LCD
>> o All low-power silent cooling
>>
>> Dell could recycle some old simple laptop designs into appliances.
>> Issue would be cost & support - and I'm not sure the infrastructure
>> is there for linux-support re support outsourced to Mars Base II.
>>
>> Laptops can also work well as thin-clients to servers.
>
> http://www.linuxbios.org/ looks useful for this sort of thing. Basically,
> replace the existing bios with a larger flash chip, then install linux on
> that. This would allow you to do away with the hard disc completely for
> thin client and firewall/router applications.

There is also on ebay, compactflash-IDE adaptors.
Plug in a 5 quid flash to the 10 quid (IIRC) adaptor and plug that into
the motherboard IDE port, and it boots from that.

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amstereofan <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Can't be much but are we talking approx a ?1 a day or somewhat less with
> monitor off half the time say ?

There have been lots of responses to this thread.
However, I thought I'd just point people at http://www.uswitch.com/ which
may be of help for reducing the cost of your electricity bills.

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> amstereofan <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > Can't be much but are we talking approx a ?1 a day or somewhat less with
> > monitor off half the time say ?
>
> There have been lots of responses to this thread.

I've missed the thread, only just having subscribed, but...

I've got the following, plumbed into an electricity meter. I've got...

Fluorescent desk light
subwoofer/amp
Dolby 5.1 decoder
PDA
Phone
Monitor
PC with 400W PSU
Zyxel 100IH router
BT Dect phone
Laser printer (most of the time in power save mode)
Portable TV (turned off ATM)
Laptop

It's currently taking 333W, which will be approx 2p/hour or 25p/day for it
being on half time.

Just the PC is likely to be a lot less though.

Pete.

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