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Carl
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      11-14-2003, 07:51 AM
I'm getting adsl in the very near future and am currently running isdn from
the original socket as installed by bt. I understand about the conversion
back to an analogue line, but my question is this:

Im having an extension built at the back of my house and my computer will be
re-homed there. I'm going to need to install another telephone socket in
the extension so I can use my computer but the length of cable required will
be considerable. Can I just buy one of those d-i-y extension kits and
simply plug in a dsl filter? It will be a wires only install of adsl. Will
I need special cabling of any sort or is the standard cable in these kits
sufficient? Is it that simple,or have I missed something?

TIA,

Carl


 
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J Houston
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      11-14-2003, 09:09 AM

"Carl" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I'm getting adsl in the very near future and am currently running isdn

from
> the original socket as installed by bt. I understand about the conversion
> back to an analogue line, but my question is this:
>
> Im having an extension built at the back of my house and my computer will

be
> re-homed there. I'm going to need to install another telephone socket in
> the extension so I can use my computer but the length of cable required

will
> be considerable. Can I just buy one of those d-i-y extension kits and
> simply plug in a dsl filter? It will be a wires only install of adsl.

Will
> I need special cabling of any sort or is the standard cable in these kits
> sufficient? Is it that simple,or have I missed something?
>


Buy and fit the DIY extension kit. Then plug it into the ADSL filter, and in
turn
plug the filter directly into the main telephone socket.

Connect *all* the telephones to the standard BT socket on the filter, as
this will
isolate all your phones from the ADSL.

If, like me, you still want access to your old 56k dial-up, it gets a little
bit trickier...



James H


 
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J Houston
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      11-14-2003, 09:12 AM

"J Houston" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Buy and fit the DIY extension kit.



Actually, you dont really need an extension kit, an extension lead
will do the job with less fuss.



James H


 
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James Hurrell
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      11-14-2003, 12:39 PM

"Carl" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I'm getting adsl in the very near future and am currently running isdn

from
> the original socket as installed by bt. I understand about the conversion
> back to an analogue line, but my question is this:
>
> Im having an extension built at the back of my house and my computer will

be
> re-homed there. I'm going to need to install another telephone socket in
> the extension so I can use my computer but the length of cable required

will
> be considerable. Can I just buy one of those d-i-y extension kits and
> simply plug in a dsl filter? It will be a wires only install of adsl.

Will
> I need special cabling of any sort or is the standard cable in these kits
> sufficient? Is it that simple,or have I missed something?
>
> TIA,
>
> Carl


Hi Carl,

When I had ADSL enabled, I needed to install and extension upstairs for the
router (master socket in living room). I bought a length of bog standard
indoor telephone cable (nothing special) from my local DIY store and an
exention face plate. I hard wired the cable at both ends (not that difficult
but mine looks very messy - just make sure you wire the same cables to the
same pins at both ends!) and voilà.... Plugged in a filter on both master
and extension... easy peasy. No probs at all. The cable is prob about 25m
all in...

Or as the other poster said, a simple extension cable will do...but make
sure you have the filters.

James


 
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      11-14-2003, 01:59 PM
Thanks guys. I had a feeling it would be fairly straight forward but wanted
confirmation.

~Carl


 
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Roderick Stewart
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      11-14-2003, 08:23 PM
In article <bp29qq$fo3$(E-Mail Removed)>, J Houston wrote:
> > Buy and fit the DIY extension kit.

>
> Actually, you dont really need an extension kit, an extension lead
> will do the job with less fuss.
>

Yes, it's just the same thing except not nailed to the wall. Depends on
how tidy you want it to look, but the ADSL signals won't care.

Rod.

 
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Peter Parry
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      11-14-2003, 10:13 PM
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:51:42 -0000, "Carl" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>Im having an extension built at the back of my house and my computer will be
>re-homed there. I'm going to need to install another telephone socket in
>the extension so I can use my computer but the length of cable required will
>be considerable. Can I just buy one of those d-i-y extension kits and
>simply plug in a dsl filter?


Depends on the "extension kit", many use flat (parallel cored) wires
rather than the correct twisted pairs and this increases the
likelihood of interference being picked up or odd effects on the ADSL
signal. Using twisted pair cable (not flat extension cable or
stranded alarm cable) you will be fine.

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Antenna solutions for car, caravan, house, office, boat and tent.
Fixed Telephone wiring guide at :-
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Roderick Stewart
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      11-15-2003, 06:06 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Peter Parry wrote:
> >Im having an extension built at the back of my house and my computer will be
> >re-homed there. I'm going to need to install another telephone socket in
> >the extension so I can use my computer but the length of cable required will
> >be considerable. Can I just buy one of those d-i-y extension kits and
> >simply plug in a dsl filter?

>
> Depends on the "extension kit", many use flat (parallel cored) wires
> rather than the correct twisted pairs and this increases the
> likelihood of interference being picked up or odd effects on the ADSL
> signal. Using twisted pair cable (not flat extension cable or
> stranded alarm cable) you will be fine.


I've got flat telephone cable all over the house, and telephone, dial-up modems,
and ADSL all work fine.

Rod.

 
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Peter Parry
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      11-15-2003, 01:36 PM
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:06:28 GMT, Roderick Stewart
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>I've got flat telephone cable all over the house, and telephone, dial-up modems,
>and ADSL all work fine.


The fact that in your particular case it works does not make it
likely to work in any other case or good practice. Using untwisted
cable affects the ADSL signal more than most other mistakes which can
be made.

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      11-15-2003, 03:25 PM

"Carl" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I'm getting adsl in the very near future and am currently running isdn

from
> the original socket as installed by bt. I understand about the conversion
> back to an analogue line, but my question is this:
>
> Im having an extension built at the back of my house and my computer will

be
> re-homed there. I'm going to need to install another telephone socket in
> the extension so I can use my computer but the length of cable required

will
> be considerable. Can I just buy one of those d-i-y extension kits and
> simply plug in a dsl filter? It will be a wires only install of adsl.

Will
> I need special cabling of any sort or is the standard cable in these kits
> sufficient? Is it that simple,or have I missed something?


I used some spare cat 5 networking cable and hard wired it to the master BT
socket. Then put a box on the other end of the cat 5. Cable without filter
into Router, but a filter on the master socket where the phone is plugged
in. Everything works fine here with no probs. (got very fast dial up before
asdl too with this set up)

-halli-



 
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