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PeterC
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      04-16-2009, 02:23 PM
The Reg. has an article here:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/16/tiscali_audit/
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Peter.
You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
It's not rocket science, you know.
 
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123Jim
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      04-16-2009, 02:58 PM

"PeterC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1i3vqo0facjhe$.30pu29u39183$.(E-Mail Removed).. .
> The Reg. has an article here:
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/16/tiscali_audit/
> --
> Peter.
> You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
> It's not rocket science, you know.



I'm with Tiscali ..I wonder what happens if they go into administration...
will 1.8 million UK subscribers be cut off? no that's too crazy.


 
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George Weston
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      04-16-2009, 03:44 PM

"123Jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:gs7h2n$7un$(E-Mail Removed)...
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> "PeterC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:1i3vqo0facjhe$.30pu29u39183$.(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> The Reg. has an article here:
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/16/tiscali_audit/
>> --
>> Peter.
>> You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
>> It's not rocket science, you know.

>
>
> I'm with Tiscali ..I wonder what happens if they go into administration...
> will 1.8 million UK subscribers be cut off? no that's too crazy.


It's a possibility but I'd bet that a buyer will soon be found when the
share-price / company value goes low enough.
Any bets on who's waiting in the sidelines?
BT?
NTL/Virgin?
Carphone Warehouse?


George


 
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Phil W Lee
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      04-16-2009, 03:57 PM
"123Jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> considered Thu, 16 Apr
2009 15:58:20 +0100 the perfect time to write:

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>"PeterC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:1i3vqo0facjhe$.30pu29u39183$.(E-Mail Removed). ..
>> The Reg. has an article here:
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/16/tiscali_audit/
>> --
>> Peter.
>> You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
>> It's not rocket science, you know.

>
>
>I'm with Tiscali ..I wonder what happens if they go into administration...
>will 1.8 million UK subscribers be cut off? no that's too crazy.
>

But far from impossible.
Why would wholesalers continue to provide services to their customer
(tiscali, not tiscali's subscribers) if the bills aren't being paid?
Then there's the suppliers of the bandwidth to connect to internet
peers, and the rack space at datacentres - it will all cease if the
bills don't get paid.
Meanwhile, all the better staff will be leaving (as the better ones
will be finding other employment more easily) leaving a badly depleted
technical capability so that reliability becomes even more of a
problem (although it seems this may already be happening).
As the users leave and/or connections get shut down, systems need to
be slimmed down and integrated together, and this will give rise to
more misconfiguration problems (as the best staff will have already
left).

The alternative would be for the user accounts to be sold off, giving
subscribers little choice in where they end up.
Better surely to get your mac and leave while you can still choose
where to migrate to.
I'm sure you could migrate after the great sell-off, but there would
be a period when it would be difficult to find out who to obtain a mac
from, and even if you do find out where to get it from, they may take
a while to work out that they are the ones responsible for issuing a
mac for ex-tiscali subscibers, and get those accounts added into their
systems.
 
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Gaius
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      04-16-2009, 05:04 PM
> The alternative would be for the user accounts to be sold off, giving
> subscribers little choice in where they end up.
> Better surely to get your mac and leave while you can still choose
> where to migrate to.


It's always better to jump than be pushed. Any penalties or
inconvenience involved in transferring now are sure to be less than the
confusion that is likely to come. Act now !
 
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Clint Sharp
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      04-16-2009, 06:20 PM
In message <1i3vqo0facjhe$.30pu29u39183$.(E-Mail Removed)>, PeterC
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>The Reg. has an article here:
>
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/16/tiscali_audit/

Oh deary me... oops...

Bwahahahahahahahahaha.

Of course, the highly skilled support staff will have no problems
finding other work, wouldn't you just love to have Tiscali customer
support on your CV...
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Eeyore
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      04-17-2009, 06:29 PM


George Weston wrote:

> "123Jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > "PeterC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >
> >> The Reg. has an article here:
> >>
> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/16/tiscali_audit/
> >> --
> >> You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
> >> It's not rocket science, you know.

> >
> >
> > I'm with Tiscali ..I wonder what happens if they go into administration...
> > will 1.8 million UK subscribers be cut off? no that's too crazy.

>
> It's a possibility but I'd bet that a buyer will soon be found when the
> share-price / company value goes low enough.
> Any bets on who's waiting in the sidelines?
> BT?
> NTL/Virgin?
> Carphone Warehouse?


On the basis that their customers must be mugs who'll stick with a sinking ship,
Carphone Warehouse has to be tops followed by NTL.

Graham

 
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      04-17-2009, 09:36 PM
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:29:09 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

> George Weston wrote:
>
>> "123Jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> "PeterC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> The Reg. has an article here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/16/tiscali_audit/
>>>> --
>>>> You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
>>>> It's not rocket science, you know.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm with Tiscali ..I wonder what happens if they go into administration...
>>> will 1.8 million UK subscribers be cut off? no that's too crazy.

>>
>> It's a possibility but I'd bet that a buyer will soon be found when the
>> share-price / company value goes low enough.
>> Any bets on who's waiting in the sidelines?
>> BT?
>> NTL/Virgin?
>> Carphone Warehouse?

>
> On the basis that their customers must be mugs who'll stick with a sinking ship,
> Carphone Warehouse has to be tops followed by NTL.
>
> Graham


Don't say that!

I've been looking at moving but, touch wood, after about 4 years I've had
very few problems and they've been short-lived and corrected them selves.
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Steve
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      04-17-2009, 10:49 PM

"Eeyore" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On the basis that their customers must be mugs who'll stick with a sinking

ship,
> Carphone Warehouse has to be tops followed by NTL.
>
> Graham
>


Really?

I understand you are NOT a user of Tiscali, so how would you know?





 
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Sean Black
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      04-20-2009, 08:35 AM
In message <ce7s6iym7vu4$.(E-Mail Removed)>, PeterC
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>On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:29:09 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
>
>> George Weston wrote:
>>
>>> "123Jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> "PeterC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> The Reg. has an article here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/16/tiscali_audit/
>>>>> --
>>>>> You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
>>>>> It's not rocket science, you know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm with Tiscali ..I wonder what happens if they go into administration...
>>>> will 1.8 million UK subscribers be cut off? no that's too crazy.
>>>
>>> It's a possibility but I'd bet that a buyer will soon be found when the
>>> share-price / company value goes low enough.
>>> Any bets on who's waiting in the sidelines?
>>> BT?
>>> NTL/Virgin?
>>> Carphone Warehouse?

>>
>> On the basis that their customers must be mugs who'll stick with a
>>sinking ship,
>> Carphone Warehouse has to be tops followed by NTL.
>>
>> Graham

>
>Don't say that!
>
>I've been looking at moving but, touch wood, after about 4 years I've had
>very few problems and they've been short-lived and corrected them selves.


Same here, currently only costing me £4.99 per month, for my 1.8 meg
line, which is about as fast as I can expect with my distance from the
exchange. The only real alternative at that sort of price is Sky, unless
anyone can suggest some others?
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