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Boe
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      01-20-2006, 01:12 PM
I'm not familiar with using more than one NIC. I have two netgear
unmanaged gigabit switches that connect via a single crossover cable. Would
I be better off putting all of my heaviest users (transferring the largest
files all with gigabit nics on their systems) on one switch and putting both
of the server nic connections (where all the traffic is coming and going to)
on a single switch or should I put half on one switch and half on another
switch (heavy users) and put one nic connection from the server on each
swtich? (we don't have funds to replace the switches so that will not be
part of the equation)

Also since I am a newbie can you give me details on anything I would need to
do on the server once I implement whatever solution is better. The only
server connection plugged in right now is one nic at 10.10.10.10. I'm not
sure what I'll need to do with the second nic or any loadbalancing things I
will or won't need to do.

Thanks!


 
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      01-20-2006, 05:44 PM
Boe wrote:

> I'm not familiar with using more than one NIC. I have two netgear
> unmanaged gigabit switches that connect via a single crossover cable. Would
> I be better off putting all of my heaviest users (transferring the largest
> files all with gigabit nics on their systems) on one switch and putting both
> of the server nic connections (where all the traffic is coming and going to)
> on a single switch or should I put half on one switch and half on another
> switch (heavy users) and put one nic connection from the server on each
> swtich? (we don't have funds to replace the switches so that will not be
> part of the equation)
>
> Also since I am a newbie can you give me details on anything I would need to
> do on the server once I implement whatever solution is better. The only
> server connection plugged in right now is one nic at 10.10.10.10. I'm not
> sure what I'll need to do with the second nic or any loadbalancing things I
> will or won't need to do.
>
> Thanks!
>
>


Is the one NIC anywhere near saturated?

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      01-21-2006, 02:00 AM
Yes, the clients are frequently transferring files of 500MB or larger
simultaneously.

"CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Boe wrote:
>
>> I'm not familiar with using more than one NIC. I have two netgear
>> unmanaged gigabit switches that connect via a single crossover cable.
>> Would I be better off putting all of my heaviest users (transferring the
>> largest files all with gigabit nics on their systems) on one switch and
>> putting both of the server nic connections (where all the traffic is
>> coming and going to) on a single switch or should I put half on one
>> switch and half on another switch (heavy users) and put one nic
>> connection from the server on each swtich? (we don't have funds to
>> replace the switches so that will not be part of the equation)
>>
>> Also since I am a newbie can you give me details on anything I would need
>> to do on the server once I implement whatever solution is better. The
>> only server connection plugged in right now is one nic at 10.10.10.10.
>> I'm not sure what I'll need to do with the second nic or any
>> loadbalancing things I will or won't need to do.
>>
>> Thanks!

>
> Is the one NIC anywhere near saturated?
>
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      01-21-2006, 02:29 AM
Boe wrote:
> Yes, the clients are frequently transferring files of 500MB or larger
> simultaneously.
>


you didn't answer the question

> "CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>Boe wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm not familiar with using more than one NIC. I have two netgear
>>>unmanaged gigabit switches that connect via a single crossover cable.
>>>Would I be better off putting all of my heaviest users (transferring the
>>>largest files all with gigabit nics on their systems) on one switch and
>>>putting both of the server nic connections (where all the traffic is
>>>coming and going to) on a single switch or should I put half on one
>>>switch and half on another switch (heavy users) and put one nic
>>>connection from the server on each swtich? (we don't have funds to
>>>replace the switches so that will not be part of the equation)
>>>
>>>Also since I am a newbie can you give me details on anything I would need
>>>to do on the server once I implement whatever solution is better. The
>>>only server connection plugged in right now is one nic at 10.10.10.10.
>>>I'm not sure what I'll need to do with the second nic or any
>>>loadbalancing things I will or won't need to do.
>>>
>>>Thanks!

>>
>>Is the one NIC anywhere near saturated?
>>
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      01-21-2006, 02:43 PM
I thought YES answered the question. What was the question I didn't
answer?

"CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Boe wrote:
>> Yes, the clients are frequently transferring files of 500MB or larger
>> simultaneously.
>>

>
> you didn't answer the question
>
>> "CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>>Boe wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm not familiar with using more than one NIC. I have two netgear
>>>>unmanaged gigabit switches that connect via a single crossover cable.
>>>>Would I be better off putting all of my heaviest users (transferring the
>>>>largest files all with gigabit nics on their systems) on one switch and
>>>>putting both of the server nic connections (where all the traffic is
>>>>coming and going to) on a single switch or should I put half on one
>>>>switch and half on another switch (heavy users) and put one nic
>>>>connection from the server on each swtich? (we don't have funds to
>>>>replace the switches so that will not be part of the equation)
>>>>
>>>>Also since I am a newbie can you give me details on anything I would
>>>>need to do on the server once I implement whatever solution is better.
>>>>The only server connection plugged in right now is one nic at
>>>>10.10.10.10. I'm not sure what I'll need to do with the second nic or
>>>>any loadbalancing things I will or won't need to do.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Is the one NIC anywhere near saturated?
>>>
>>>--
>>>The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
>>>minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.

>>
>>
>>

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      01-21-2006, 04:15 PM
The question has changed. I found out that at least half of the clients who
have large file transfers are on a switch that is not in the server room.
Now what is the best way to optimize performance as the Nic on the server is
maxing out - checked using task manager - network monitoring.

"CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Boe wrote:
>> Yes, the clients are frequently transferring files of 500MB or larger
>> simultaneously.
>>

>
> you didn't answer the question
>
>> "CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>>Boe wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm not familiar with using more than one NIC. I have two netgear
>>>>unmanaged gigabit switches that connect via a single crossover cable.
>>>>Would I be better off putting all of my heaviest users (transferring the
>>>>largest files all with gigabit nics on their systems) on one switch and
>>>>putting both of the server nic connections (where all the traffic is
>>>>coming and going to) on a single switch or should I put half on one
>>>>switch and half on another switch (heavy users) and put one nic
>>>>connection from the server on each swtich? (we don't have funds to
>>>>replace the switches so that will not be part of the equation)
>>>>
>>>>Also since I am a newbie can you give me details on anything I would
>>>>need to do on the server once I implement whatever solution is better.
>>>>The only server connection plugged in right now is one nic at
>>>>10.10.10.10. I'm not sure what I'll need to do with the second nic or
>>>>any loadbalancing things I will or won't need to do.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Is the one NIC anywhere near saturated?
>>>
>>>--
>>>The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
>>>minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.

>>
>>
>>

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      01-21-2006, 05:10 PM
Boe wrote:

> I thought YES answered the question. What was the question I didn't
> answer?


whether the one NIC is saturated -- the size of the files being
transferred is irrelevant to that question

What fraction of 1000 Mbps is it currently delivering?

A typical PC can't even keep _one_ gigabit NIC busy. So let's first
establish that yours can. What sort of bus are we talking about here?

>
> "CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>Boe wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, the clients are frequently transferring files of 500MB or larger
>>>simultaneously.
>>>

>>
>>you didn't answer the question
>>
>>
>>>"CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Boe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm not familiar with using more than one NIC. I have two netgear
>>>>>unmanaged gigabit switches that connect via a single crossover cable.
>>>>>Would I be better off putting all of my heaviest users (transferring the
>>>>>largest files all with gigabit nics on their systems) on one switch and
>>>>>putting both of the server nic connections (where all the traffic is
>>>>>coming and going to) on a single switch or should I put half on one
>>>>>switch and half on another switch (heavy users) and put one nic
>>>>>connection from the server on each swtich? (we don't have funds to
>>>>>replace the switches so that will not be part of the equation)
>>>>>
>>>>>Also since I am a newbie can you give me details on anything I would
>>>>>need to do on the server once I implement whatever solution is better.
>>>>>The only server connection plugged in right now is one nic at
>>>>>10.10.10.10. I'm not sure what I'll need to do with the second nic or
>>>>>any loadbalancing things I will or won't need to do.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>Is the one NIC anywhere near saturated?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
>>>>minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
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>>minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.

>
>
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      01-21-2006, 05:15 PM
Boe wrote:

> The question has changed. I found out that at least half of the clients who
> have large file transfers are on a switch that is not in the server room.


Why is that relevant?

> Now what is the best way to optimize performance as the Nic on the server is
> maxing out - checked using task manager - network monitoring.
>

Some details would be nice -- like what version of Windows you're using,
and precisely what the task manager is telling you that leads you to
conclude the NIC is maxed out.

> "CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>Boe wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, the clients are frequently transferring files of 500MB or larger
>>>simultaneously.
>>>

>>
>>you didn't answer the question
>>
>>
>>>"CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Boe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm not familiar with using more than one NIC. I have two netgear
>>>>>unmanaged gigabit switches that connect via a single crossover cable.
>>>>>Would I be better off putting all of my heaviest users (transferring the
>>>>>largest files all with gigabit nics on their systems) on one switch and
>>>>>putting both of the server nic connections (where all the traffic is
>>>>>coming and going to) on a single switch or should I put half on one
>>>>>switch and half on another switch (heavy users) and put one nic
>>>>>connection from the server on each swtich? (we don't have funds to
>>>>>replace the switches so that will not be part of the equation)
>>>>>
>>>>>Also since I am a newbie can you give me details on anything I would
>>>>>need to do on the server once I implement whatever solution is better.
>>>>>The only server connection plugged in right now is one nic at
>>>>>10.10.10.10. I'm not sure what I'll need to do with the second nic or
>>>>>any loadbalancing things I will or won't need to do.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>Is the one NIC anywhere near saturated?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
>>>>minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
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>>minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.

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>
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      01-21-2006, 08:02 PM
A single G5 Macintosh client exceeds 50% with large file transfers. We have
over 30 developers using them on our network.

"CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Boe wrote:
>
>> I thought YES answered the question. What was the question I didn't
>> answer?

>
> whether the one NIC is saturated -- the size of the files being
> transferred is irrelevant to that question
>
> What fraction of 1000 Mbps is it currently delivering?
>
> A typical PC can't even keep _one_ gigabit NIC busy. So let's first
> establish that yours can. What sort of bus are we talking about here?
>
>>
>> "CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>>Boe wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yes, the clients are frequently transferring files of 500MB or larger
>>>>simultaneously.
>>>>
>>>
>>>you didn't answer the question
>>>
>>>
>>>>"CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Boe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not familiar with using more than one NIC. I have two netgear
>>>>>>unmanaged gigabit switches that connect via a single crossover cable.
>>>>>>Would I be better off putting all of my heaviest users (transferring
>>>>>>the largest files all with gigabit nics on their systems) on one
>>>>>>switch and putting both of the server nic connections (where all the
>>>>>>traffic is coming and going to) on a single switch or should I put
>>>>>>half on one switch and half on another switch (heavy users) and put
>>>>>>one nic connection from the server on each swtich? (we don't have
>>>>>>funds to replace the switches so that will not be part of the
>>>>>>equation)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also since I am a newbie can you give me details on anything I would
>>>>>>need to do on the server once I implement whatever solution is better.
>>>>>>The only server connection plugged in right now is one nic at
>>>>>>10.10.10.10. I'm not sure what I'll need to do with the second nic or
>>>>>>any loadbalancing things I will or won't need to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>Is the one NIC anywhere near saturated?
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
>>>>>minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
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      01-21-2006, 08:04 PM
Do you need to see my taxes? Clearly you have no interest in answering this
question. If your questions actually were leading to a solution I would
continue with this but clearly you are the helpful sort.

"CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Boe wrote:
>
>> I thought YES answered the question. What was the question I didn't
>> answer?

>
> whether the one NIC is saturated -- the size of the files being
> transferred is irrelevant to that question
>
> What fraction of 1000 Mbps is it currently delivering?
>
> A typical PC can't even keep _one_ gigabit NIC busy. So let's first
> establish that yours can. What sort of bus are we talking about here?
>
>>
>> "CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>>Boe wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yes, the clients are frequently transferring files of 500MB or larger
>>>>simultaneously.
>>>>
>>>
>>>you didn't answer the question
>>>
>>>
>>>>"CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Boe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not familiar with using more than one NIC. I have two netgear
>>>>>>unmanaged gigabit switches that connect via a single crossover cable.
>>>>>>Would I be better off putting all of my heaviest users (transferring
>>>>>>the largest files all with gigabit nics on their systems) on one
>>>>>>switch and putting both of the server nic connections (where all the
>>>>>>traffic is coming and going to) on a single switch or should I put
>>>>>>half on one switch and half on another switch (heavy users) and put
>>>>>>one nic connection from the server on each swtich? (we don't have
>>>>>>funds to replace the switches so that will not be part of the
>>>>>>equation)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also since I am a newbie can you give me details on anything I would
>>>>>>need to do on the server once I implement whatever solution is better.
>>>>>>The only server connection plugged in right now is one nic at
>>>>>>10.10.10.10. I'm not sure what I'll need to do with the second nic or
>>>>>>any loadbalancing things I will or won't need to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>Is the one NIC anywhere near saturated?
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
>>>>>minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>>minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.

>>
>>
>>

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