MN510 USB adapter w/MN500 router

I decided to change the network name and WEP security on my home network,
which consists of, a desktop with local area LAN connected via cabling to
the router where my cable modem is also connected AND 2 802.11b/g notebooks
with their own devices AND one desktop that uses the USB wireless device.

Everything was working perfectly, but I noticed that a neighbor also has an
available network in my area, so I decided NOT to display my network SSID
and to change the name and increase the security.

I changed the settings on the desktop that is connected to the router via
cabling, as that's the computer I installed the Broadband Utilities to
access the router. That went fine. I changed the two laptops, no problem,
they connected right up. BUT when I tried to change the MN510 USB wireless
device, it wouldn't complete the software change process. Can't change the
device the normal way because the device will only support 40 or 104 WEP (I
had 64 bit before the change). I have to use the software to get the device
to connect with 128 bit WEP.

I went back to the main computer and changed the wireless setting to display
the SSID, then when back to the computer with the USB adapter and I was able
to get it connected and working. The connection was showing a good to very
good connection. So I went back to the main desktop and turned off the SSID
display and all was great.... UNTIL, I rebooted the computer using the USB
adapter. Then the connection was gone and the adapter was red Xed as not
connected. I couldn't connected it NO WAY. So I uninstalled all the MS
broadband junk, even removed it from my hard drive. Couldn't remove it from
the registry because it's locked and won't delete. So now I'm connection (4)
because everytime I uninstall and reinstall, it doesn't really remove any of
the USB settings and a new USB connection is created. None the less, Every
time I have to DISPLAY the SSID to get the re install to work on the machine
with the USB device and the first time I reboot that machine, it's gone
again.

Short of tossing this piece of..... out into a busy street, is there anyway
I can get it to install properly and STAY connected?
Carol

BTW.... If I leave the Broadcast SSID on, I don't have any problem with the
USB wireless adapter, it's only when I don't broadcast the SSID. My laptops
don't have a problem either way, but then they aren't MS.

Carol

"Keppy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
> I decided to change the network name and WEP security on my home network,
> which consists of, a desktop with local area LAN connected via cabling to
> the router where my cable modem is also connected AND 2 802.11b/g
notebooks
> with their own devices AND one desktop that uses the USB wireless device.
>
> Everything was working perfectly, but I noticed that a neighbor also has
an
> available network in my area, so I decided NOT to display my network SSID
> and to change the name and increase the security.
>
> I changed the settings on the desktop that is connected to the router via
> cabling, as that's the computer I installed the Broadband Utilities to
> access the router. That went fine. I changed the two laptops, no problem,
> they connected right up. BUT when I tried to change the MN510 USB wireless
> device, it wouldn't complete the software change process. Can't change the
> device the normal way because the device will only support 40 or 104 WEP
(I
> had 64 bit before the change). I have to use the software to get the
device
> to connect with 128 bit WEP.
>
> I went back to the main computer and changed the wireless setting to
display
> the SSID, then when back to the computer with the USB adapter and I was
able
> to get it connected and working. The connection was showing a good to very
> good connection. So I went back to the main desktop and turned off the
SSID
> display and all was great.... UNTIL, I rebooted the computer using the USB
> adapter. Then the connection was gone and the adapter was red Xed as not
> connected. I couldn't connected it NO WAY. So I uninstalled all the MS
> broadband junk, even removed it from my hard drive. Couldn't remove it
from
> the registry because it's locked and won't delete. So now I'm connection
(4)
> because everytime I uninstall and reinstall, it doesn't really remove any
of
> the USB settings and a new USB connection is created. None the less, Every
> time I have to DISPLAY the SSID to get the re install to work on the
machine
> with the USB device and the first time I reboot that machine, it's gone
> again.
>
> Short of tossing this piece of..... out into a busy street, is there
anyway
> I can get it to install properly and STAY connected?
> Carol
>
>

Dear Keppy,

This also happens with my Linksys 802.11b game adapter.
It's a symptom of .11b. This does nnot happen with the
MN-710 or MN-720 adapters (the 802.11g version of your
802.11b MN-510).

Why does everyone get pissed at MSFT first?


>-----Original Message-----
>
>
>I decided to change the network name and WEP security on
my home network,
>which consists of, a desktop with local area LAN
connected via cabling to
>the router where my cable modem is also connected AND 2
802.11b/g notebooks
>with their own devices AND one desktop that uses the USB
wireless device.
>
>Everything was working perfectly, but I noticed that a
neighbor also has an
>available network in my area, so I decided NOT to
display my network SSID
>and to change the name and increase the security.
>
>I changed the settings on the desktop that is connected
to the router via
>cabling, as that's the computer I installed the
Broadband Utilities to
>access the router. That went fine. I changed the two
laptops, no problem,
>they connected right up. BUT when I tried to change the
MN510 USB wireless
>device, it wouldn't complete the software change
process. Can't change the
>device the normal way because the device will only
support 40 or 104 WEP (I
>had 64 bit before the change). I have to use the
software to get the device
>to connect with 128 bit WEP.
>
>I went back to the main computer and changed the
wireless setting to display
>the SSID, then when back to the computer with the USB
adapter and I was able
>to get it connected and working. The connection was
showing a good to very
>good connection. So I went back to the main desktop and
turned off the SSID
>display and all was great.... UNTIL, I rebooted the
computer using the USB
>adapter. Then the connection was gone and the adapter
was red Xed as not
>connected. I couldn't connected it NO WAY. So I
uninstalled all the MS
>broadband junk, even removed it from my hard drive.
Couldn't remove it from
>the registry because it's locked and won't delete. So
now I'm connection (4)
>because everytime I uninstall and reinstall, it doesn't
really remove any of
>the USB settings and a new USB connection is created.
None the less, Every
>time I have to DISPLAY the SSID to get the re install to
work on the machine
>with the USB device and the first time I reboot that
machine, it's gone
>again.
>
>Short of tossing this piece of..... out into a busy
street, is there anyway
>I can get it to install properly and STAY connected?
>Carol
>
>
>.
>

I guess I am most pisssed because you can't completely delete the MS junk
from your registry so that I can install clean. It worked find until I
changed the name and WEP, I was hoping that, if I got rid of everything that
related to the MN510 and made a clean install, it would work. One of my
laptops is 802.11b and I don't have any problem with it finding the network
with the SSID not broadcast, and since the only machines I've had a problem
with are the MS products, well....
But, I've been thinking about getting an 802.11b/g router and adapter, but
I'm not sure it will be MS. I hear it's OK, the security is good, but I
understand the Linksys is a more reliable combo.
Thanks for the reply though. It's nice to know that I'm not the only one
with the problem. I'm assuming then, the only solution is to change to b/g
Carol

"Ken" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1b33001c4501c$4547b450$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Dear Keppy,
>
> This also happens with my Linksys 802.11b game adapter.
> It's a symptom of .11b. This does nnot happen with the
> MN-710 or MN-720 adapters (the 802.11g version of your
> 802.11b MN-510).
>
> Why does everyone get pissed at MSFT first?
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >
> >
> >I decided to change the network name and WEP security on
> my home network,
> >which consists of, a desktop with local area LAN
> connected via cabling to
> >the router where my cable modem is also connected AND 2
> 802.11b/g notebooks
> >with their own devices AND one desktop that uses the USB
> wireless device.
> >
> >Everything was working perfectly, but I noticed that a
> neighbor also has an
> >available network in my area, so I decided NOT to
> display my network SSID
> >and to change the name and increase the security.
> >
> >I changed the settings on the desktop that is connected
> to the router via
> >cabling, as that's the computer I installed the
> Broadband Utilities to
> >access the router. That went fine. I changed the two
> laptops, no problem,
> >they connected right up. BUT when I tried to change the
> MN510 USB wireless
> >device, it wouldn't complete the software change
> process. Can't change the
> >device the normal way because the device will only
> support 40 or 104 WEP (I
> >had 64 bit before the change). I have to use the
> software to get the device
> >to connect with 128 bit WEP.
> >
> >I went back to the main computer and changed the
> wireless setting to display
> >the SSID, then when back to the computer with the USB
> adapter and I was able
> >to get it connected and working. The connection was
> showing a good to very
> >good connection. So I went back to the main desktop and
> turned off the SSID
> >display and all was great.... UNTIL, I rebooted the
> computer using the USB
> >adapter. Then the connection was gone and the adapter
> was red Xed as not
> >connected. I couldn't connected it NO WAY. So I
> uninstalled all the MS
> >broadband junk, even removed it from my hard drive.
> Couldn't remove it from
> >the registry because it's locked and won't delete. So
> now I'm connection (4)
> >because everytime I uninstall and reinstall, it doesn't
> really remove any of
> >the USB settings and a new USB connection is created.
> None the less, Every
> >time I have to DISPLAY the SSID to get the re install to
> work on the machine
> >with the USB device and the first time I reboot that
> machine, it's gone
> >again.
> >
> >Short of tossing this piece of..... out into a busy
> street, is there anyway
> >I can get it to install properly and STAY connected?
> >Carol
> >
> >
> >.
> >

"Ken" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<1b33001c4501c$4547b450$(E-Mail Removed)>...
>
> Why does everyone get pissed at MSFT first?

Because this device really is a piece of crap.

I have six .11b wireless interfaces from different manufacturers and
this MN-510 is the worst.

It reminds me of the difference between QuickBooks and MS Money, even
with the "new and improved MS Money 2004 Small Business". I have used
QuickBooks Pro for years, and decided to try out the MS Money thing
just for S&G. When they say small business, they mean something along
the lines of "lemonade stand".

In order to use any sort of basic security with the MN-510 you have to
edit the registry. I bought the MN-510 for my son's computer and had
to call MS Tech support to get it to connect to my network. They were
trying to tell me I have to disable WEP and broadcast the SSID on my
access point otherwise it "isn't supported by Microsoft".

LOL. I hammered the guy and got the registry info out of him.

A positive thing I can say is that the MS _did_ come through with the
details and it worked.

Waitman Gobble
http://wcg2.com/

What operating system was this on? Do you have a SR# from Microsoft
for this call?

On 1 Jul 2004 17:59:28 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) (Waitman C.
Gobble, II) wrote:

>In order to use any sort of basic security with the MN-510 you have to
>edit the registry. I bought the MN-510 for my son's computer and had
>to call MS Tech support to get it to connect to my network. They were
>trying to tell me I have to disable WEP and broadcast the SSID on my
>access point otherwise it "isn't supported by Microsoft".
>
>LOL. I hammered the guy and got the registry info out of him.

--
Barb Bowman
Expert Zone Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
MS-MVP (Windows)