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      01-29-2004, 01:20 AM
Ugh! I cant figure out how to get the firmware updated.

The firmware setup finds the MN-740 router and tells me
that the latest firmware update is 1.0.2.21. For the
past 2 dozen attempts, it keeps failing:

"The following components failed to update"
XBOX Wireless Adapter (MN-740) runtime firmware.
Current version 1.0.1.20

I have a MN500 wireless base station,
I have moved the XBOX adapter to witin inches of the base
station
I have even tried the update from a different machine- no
luck
Any other options?

Thanks,
Jason



 
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Randy D
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      01-29-2004, 02:16 AM
I had the same problem with the same hardware and never found a solution or
an answer.

RD


<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:648a01c3e60e$77874430$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ugh! I cant figure out how to get the firmware updated.
>
> The firmware setup finds the MN-740 router and tells me
> that the latest firmware update is 1.0.2.21. For the
> past 2 dozen attempts, it keeps failing:
>
> "The following components failed to update"
> XBOX Wireless Adapter (MN-740) runtime firmware.
> Current version 1.0.1.20
>
> I have a MN500 wireless base station,
> I have moved the XBOX adapter to witin inches of the base
> station
> I have even tried the update from a different machine- no
> luck
> Any other options?
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
>
>



 
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Jason Tsang
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      01-29-2004, 02:59 AM
Are you running any skinning software on your Windows installation?
If you have an ATI video card, are you using Hydravision?

If yes to either, those are known to interfere with the software that
updates the firmware.

Try turning them off before you run the msbndownload.exe file.
Also try resetting the MN740 before you update the firmware.

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Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP

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<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:648a01c3e60e$77874430$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ugh! I cant figure out how to get the firmware updated.
>
> The firmware setup finds the MN-740 router and tells me
> that the latest firmware update is 1.0.2.21. For the
> past 2 dozen attempts, it keeps failing:
>
> "The following components failed to update"
> XBOX Wireless Adapter (MN-740) runtime firmware.
> Current version 1.0.1.20
>
> I have a MN500 wireless base station,
> I have moved the XBOX adapter to witin inches of the base
> station
> I have even tried the update from a different machine- no
> luck
> Any other options?
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
>
>



 
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faustus
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      01-29-2004, 05:13 PM
I had the same problem for weeks and here was my solution.
It may sound ridiculous but here is what I did. Forget
first of all about updating it wirelessly. Connect it
directly to your ethernet card on the back of your system.
Try updating it that way after a reset of the MN-740.

If that fails which mine did try someone elses computer.
My system at home is XP Pro and I couldn't update it. I
took it to work and tried it on a Win 98 machine without
any luck. Tried it on a freh install 2000 machine and it
worked like a charm. I know this sounds like a pain but it
was the only thing I could do. M$ Tech support was really
nice in trying to help me for hours on the phone but
really didn't have a solution.

I now see in the above post that ATI Hydrovision drivers
have a conflict. I wasn't aware of this at the time but I
do have ATI stuff on my home PC and none at work. Good
luck to ya and I hope this helps out a bit or gives you
other avenues to try.

faustus



>-----Original Message-----
>I had the same problem with the same hardware and never

found a solution or
>an answer.
>
>RD
>
>
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:648a01c3e60e$77874430$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Ugh! I cant figure out how to get the firmware updated.
>>
>> The firmware setup finds the MN-740 router and tells me
>> that the latest firmware update is 1.0.2.21. For the
>> past 2 dozen attempts, it keeps failing:
>>
>> "The following components failed to update"
>> XBOX Wireless Adapter (MN-740) runtime firmware.
>> Current version 1.0.1.20
>>
>> I have a MN500 wireless base station,
>> I have moved the XBOX adapter to witin inches of the

base
>> station
>> I have even tried the update from a different machine-

no
>> luck
>> Any other options?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>

>
>
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>

 
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Kevin Goodman
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      01-31-2004, 02:39 AM
Hi - this might make you feel a tiny bit better... I posted this a while
back about my experiences doing the MN700+740 setup/upgrade. My advice is to
just start using the 740 with the old firmware and from time to time try the
upgrade - sooner or later it will probably work.

Here's the original post from Jan 17, 2004...


I don't know if this will help other people that have experienced the MN-740
firmware upgrade problem or not but here was my experience...

The problem is that no matter how carefully you follow the upgrade
instructions the 740 firmware upgrade reports that the update failed. I
phoned the MS broadband support line, and got the distinct feeling the
support guy was thinking "oh no, here we go again..." they said "um... you
don't need to apply this patch". When I insisted that I wanted to disable
SSID transmission they (half-heartedly) tried to help and failed.
Ultimately, they told me to phone the xbox support line. xbox support was
perplexed by the direction I'd been given and told me I should have called
the broadband support line... etc.

MS support disappointments aside, I *did* manage to get the upgrade to work
.... eventually.

I bought the MN-700 and MN-740 at the same time with the understanding from
reviews etc that setup/config was practically automatic. Of course, in
typical Microsoft fashion, the software and documentation makes the process
really simple and straightforward except for a couple crucial steps:

(1) the "Base station management tool" aka web page wouldn't come up. It
took a call to MS support to find that the IE browser's "Tools/Internet
options.../Connetions/Lan Settings/Automatically Detect Settings" check box
must be UNCHECKED for this to work. Never would have guessed that.

(2) The 740 docs assume WEP on the router is not being used but the 700
setup program/docs turn on WEP by default. So, the 740 setup guide forgets
to tell you that you have to enter the (painfully long) WEP key into the
xbox before it will "connect" to the network even though it can see that
your network is there. I'm a total newbie to wireless terminology, etc. so
it took me a while to realize this step was necessary.

Next the auto-upgrade software automatically announced that both the 700 and
740's firmware needed an upgrade. Beauty! I always upgrade firmware/patch
software before using anything seriously. Generally saves alot of headaches.
The MN-700 auto-upgrade worked flawlessly but failed when it tried to do the
740. Bummer. So, I bounced over to the ms website to try and see what might
be wrong and found this page ...
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/br..._mn740_102.htm
based on that I tried the dedicated 740 upgrade program along with the new
set of directions. But it still failed. I tried disabling WEP. I tried
resetting the hardware - both the router and the 740. I tried with and
without the xbox powered up. I tried different wireless channels. etc. etc.

All of these attempts failed. I finally said screw it after many hours of
poking and prodding and fiddling and started to setup xbox live instead. I
played live with no problems for a couple hours. Afterwards, without
reseting either the MN-700 or the MN-740, I decided to try the firmware
upgrade again and ... surprise ... it all of a sudden works!?

Basically, I believe that MS has a firmware bug that causes this problem and
the support people really don't know how to get around it any more than we
do. This one has the classic signature of an uninitialized memory problem
where ... possibly ... some aspect of the setup/usage of xbox live causes
some value in memory to be set to a correct value and this is needed for the
firmware upgrade.

So my advice is to just start using the 740 with the old firmware and from
time to time try the upgrade - sooner or later it will probably work.

</Kevin>


 
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Kevin Goodman
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      01-31-2004, 10:23 PM
Actually, I think my setup must be among the simplest possible. I have the
MN-700 for no other reason than to avoid fishing wires through the walls to
get my xbox connected. I have only a single family PC and my xbox. I
followed the default setup wizard stuff. And when it got to the part about
setting up file sharing and printer access, I said "no". Although, I had
planned to disable the SSID broadcast, I still haven't gotten around to
setting that up. So my configuration is pretty close to the defaults.

A while after I got the 740 to upgrade, I did setup MAC filtering with no
problems - my xbox "sees" 4 different networks. One of them is called
"bsdnet" so I'm wary there's a Linux guy with, shall we say, "skillz" in the
neighbourhood...

<grin>

Kevin


"Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> If this is the case for everyone with similar failures, it might be a
> master browser issue of some kind. Did you have access to shared
> folders on the network when you were NOT able to update the firmware?
> I'm guessing here, but the proof/disproof would involve having all
> computers up and running and not asleep or in standby and able to
> share files before starting the upgrade. if it works every time in
> that configuration...
>
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:39:48 -0500, "Kevin Goodman"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Basically, I believe that MS has a firmware bug that causes this problem

and
> >the support people really don't know how to get around it any more than

we
> >do. This one has the classic signature of an uninitialized memory problem
> >where ... possibly ... some aspect of the setup/usage of xbox live causes
> >some value in memory to be set to a correct value and this is needed for

the
> >firmware upgrade.

>
> --
> Barb Bowman
> Expert Zone Columnist
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> MS-MVP (Windows)



 
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