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Matt
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      03-02-2004, 04:31 PM
My brother and I bought the combo pack with the wireless
router, and wireless card. It worked perfectly for about
two months and then last week, the wireless card
repeatedly drops connection with the base station. It
happens every minute or so.

We've done many of the things found throughout this
discussion page. Turning off the 802.1x security since
we're using WEP...changing the channels...setting the
lease time to 2 weeks...ensuring that all the other
settings are right.

Is there something simple to fix this, or is it screwed?
 
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Barb Bowman \(MVP-Windows\)
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      03-02-2004, 05:00 PM
have you power cycled the base station?

Matt wrote:
> My brother and I bought the combo pack with the wireless
> router, and wireless card. It worked perfectly for about
> two months and then last week, the wireless card
> repeatedly drops connection with the base station. It
> happens every minute or so.
>
> We've done many of the things found throughout this
> discussion page. Turning off the 802.1x security since
> we're using WEP...changing the channels...setting the
> lease time to 2 weeks...ensuring that all the other
> settings are right.
>
> Is there something simple to fix this, or is it screwed?



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      03-02-2004, 05:34 PM
We did that once, just by unplugging it, and then plugging
it back in, also reset the base station through the base
station manager software.

>-----Original Message-----
>have you power cycled the base station?
>
>Matt wrote:
>> My brother and I bought the combo pack with the wireless
>> router, and wireless card. It worked perfectly for

about
>> two months and then last week, the wireless card
>> repeatedly drops connection with the base station. It
>> happens every minute or so.
>>
>> We've done many of the things found throughout this
>> discussion page. Turning off the 802.1x security since
>> we're using WEP...changing the channels...setting the
>> lease time to 2 weeks...ensuring that all the other
>> settings are right.
>>
>> Is there something simple to fix this, or is it screwed?

>
>
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      03-02-2004, 05:43 PM
so you are saying that 802.1x is off on the clients which use WEP, you've
reset the base station and set it up from scratch and you are sti;; getting
dropped every minute?

can you post your base station log please?

Matt wrote:
> We did that once, just by unplugging it, and then plugging
> it back in, also reset the base station through the base
> station manager software.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> have you power cycled the base station?
>>
>> Matt wrote:
>>> My brother and I bought the combo pack with the wireless
>>> router, and wireless card. It worked perfectly for

> about
>>> two months and then last week, the wireless card
>>> repeatedly drops connection with the base station. It
>>> happens every minute or so.
>>>
>>> We've done many of the things found throughout this
>>> discussion page. Turning off the 802.1x security since
>>> we're using WEP...changing the channels...setting the
>>> lease time to 2 weeks...ensuring that all the other
>>> settings are right.
>>>
>>> Is there something simple to fix this, or is it screwed?

>>
>>
>> --
>> Barb Bowman
>> Expert Zone Columnist
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>
>>
>> .



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      03-02-2004, 05:56 PM
We didn't completely re-set up the base station from
scratch...haven't wanted to go to that point yet.

Most of the base station log looks like this:

2004/03/01 18:35:08 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 66.112.2.84:4288 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 18:36:56 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:2643 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 18:36:59 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:2643 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 19:11:40 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:4751 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 19:37:57 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:4337 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 19:38:00 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:4337 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 19:44:34 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.165.217:2267 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 19:44:37 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.165.217:2267 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 19:45:33 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.70.126:3748 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 19:45:36 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.70.126:3748 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 19:45:42 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.70.126:3748 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 19:55:16 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.139.173:4255 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 19:55:19 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.139.173:4255 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 19:56:43 System time synchronized with
207.46.130.100

2004/03/01 20:08:04 192.168.2.39 login successful

2004/03/01 20:09:36 RF Reset...Pass

2004/03/01 20:11:50 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:3628 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 20:11:53 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:3628 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 20:16:55 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.139.173:1572 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 20:31:02 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.10.29:3813 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 20:31:05 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.10.29:3813 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 20:34:47 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.10.29:2412 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 20:34:50 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.10.29:2412 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 20:43:11 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.50.174:3708 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 20:43:14 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.50.174:3708 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 20:43:20 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.50.174:3708 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 20:48:23 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:1885 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 20:48:26 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:1885 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 20:57:04 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.110.142:1419 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 20:57:07 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.110.142:1419 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 21:02:02 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.139.173:3833 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 21:02:05 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.139.173:3833 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 21:07:43 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:3724 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 21:07:46 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:3724 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 21:07:52 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:3724 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 21:30:16 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.139.173:3978 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 21:30:19 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.139.173:3978 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:04:11 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.150.158:2878 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:04:14 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.150.158:2878 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:11:12 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.10.29:2411 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:11:15 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.10.29:2411 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:13:15 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:2351 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:13:18 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:2351 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:13:24 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:2351 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:15:07 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.10.29:2348 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:15:10 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.10.29:2348 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:16:31 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.110.142:1735 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:16:34 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.110.142:1735 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:18:29 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.110.142:3648 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:18:32 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.110.142:3648 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:41:03 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.50.174:4073 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:41:06 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.50.174:4073 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:41:12 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.50.174:4073 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:51:05 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.110.142:4390 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 22:51:08 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.110.142:4390 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 23:08:28 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:4194 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 23:19:55 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 64.222.46.177:1490 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 23:19:58 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 64.222.46.177:1490 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 23:20:04 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 64.222.46.177:1490 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 23:46:38 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.139.173:3890 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 23:46:41 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.139.173:3890 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 23:48:48 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 172.166.209.165:2585 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 23:48:51 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 172.166.209.165:2585 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/01 23:48:57 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 172.166.209.165:2585 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 00:12:57 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 218.12.225.70:2610 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 00:13:00 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 218.12.225.70:2610 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 00:13:06 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 218.12.225.70:2610 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 00:16:12 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:2454 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 00:16:15 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:2454 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 00:42:12 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.139.173:1938 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 01:08:18 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.165.217:3125 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 01:08:21 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.165.217:3125 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 01:36:15 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:3147 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 01:36:18 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:3147 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 01:36:24 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:3147 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 01:37:02 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.150.158:4989 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 01:37:05 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.150.158:4989 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 01:44:16 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.197.135.206:3571 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 01:44:19 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.197.135.206:3571 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 01:58:04 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.150.158:2727 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 01:58:07 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.150.158:2727 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 02:29:32 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:1543 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 02:29:35 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:1543 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 03:14:33 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:4370 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 03:14:36 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:4370 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 05:29:00 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 62.42.64.151:2739 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 05:29:00 ** Port Scan ** Port scanning from
62.42.64.151 detected

2004/03/02 05:29:03 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 62.42.64.151:2739 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 06:14:49 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:2283 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 06:14:52 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:2283 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 06:44:37 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:4103 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 06:44:40 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:4103 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 06:44:46 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:4103 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 06:57:39 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.10.29:3242 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 06:57:42 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.10.29:3242 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 07:14:54 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:2773 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 07:14:57 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:2773 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 07:35:07 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.2.209.70:4479 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 07:35:10 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.2.209.70:4479 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 08:27:42 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.10.29:2670 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 08:27:45 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.10.29:2670 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 08:30:33 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.10.29:3328 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 08:30:36 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.10.29:3328 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 08:33:25 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:3297 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 08:33:28 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:3297 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 08:33:34 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:3297 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 08:42:46 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:1772 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 08:42:49 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:1772 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 08:42:55 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.248.33:1772 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 09:50:49 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:1358 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 09:50:52 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:1358 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 09:56:30 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:2931 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 09:56:33 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
<IP/TCP> 24.6.18.201:2931 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

2004/03/02 10:52:33 192.168.2.39 login successful


>-----Original Message-----
>so you are saying that 802.1x is off on the clients which

use WEP, you've
>reset the base station and set it up from scratch and you

are sti;; getting
>dropped every minute?
>
>can you post your base station log please?
>
>Matt wrote:
>> We did that once, just by unplugging it, and then

plugging
>> it back in, also reset the base station through the base
>> station manager software.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> have you power cycled the base station?
>>>
>>> Matt wrote:
>>>> My brother and I bought the combo pack with the

wireless
>>>> router, and wireless card. It worked perfectly for

>> about
>>>> two months and then last week, the wireless card
>>>> repeatedly drops connection with the base station. It
>>>> happens every minute or so.
>>>>
>>>> We've done many of the things found throughout this
>>>> discussion page. Turning off the 802.1x security

since
>>>> we're using WEP...changing the channels...setting the
>>>> lease time to 2 weeks...ensuring that all the other
>>>> settings are right.
>>>>
>>>> Is there something simple to fix this, or is it

screwed?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Barb Bowman
>>> Expert Zone Columnist
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>>
>>>
>>> .

>
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      03-02-2004, 08:01 PM
Did you guys bought a 2.$ Ghz Cordless phone recently, or
something else that might be producing interference in
your environment? I have experienced sothing similar and
by removing the cordless phone from the environment
supposedly fixed the problem.


>-----Original Message-----
>My brother and I bought the combo pack with the wireless
>router, and wireless card. It worked perfectly for

about
>two months and then last week, the wireless card
>repeatedly drops connection with the base station. It
>happens every minute or so.
>
>We've done many of the things found throughout this
>discussion page. Turning off the 802.1x security since
>we're using WEP...changing the channels...setting the
>lease time to 2 weeks...ensuring that all the other
>settings are right.
>
>Is there something simple to fix this, or is it screwed?
>.
>

 
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      03-03-2004, 08:57 AM
I have seen posts from others who are having connectivity problems
that seem to be coupled with probes/attack activity such as your log
is reporting. I don't have a solution for you, although I've sent
various such logs in to the developers. I can only suggest trying a
complete reset once to see if that fixes your problem. If it doesn't,
you still might be able to exchange the hardware for a different brand
if it is as new as you state.

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:56:58 -0800, "Matt"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>We didn't completely re-set up the base station from
>scratch...haven't wanted to go to that point yet.
>
>Most of the base station log looks like this:
>
>2004/03/01 18:35:08 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
><IP/TCP> 66.112.2.84:4288 ->> 24.6.228.79:80


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      03-05-2004, 02:48 AM
Thanks Barb...

So far things seem to be going smoothly again...

We shall see..


>-----Original Message-----
>I have seen posts from others who are having connectivity

problems
>that seem to be coupled with probes/attack activity such

as your log
>is reporting. I don't have a solution for you, although

I've sent
>various such logs in to the developers. I can only

suggest trying a
>complete reset once to see if that fixes your problem. If

it doesn't,
>you still might be able to exchange the hardware for a

different brand
>if it is as new as you state.
>
>On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:56:58 -0800, "Matt"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>We didn't completely re-set up the base station from
>>scratch...haven't wanted to go to that point yet.
>>
>>Most of the base station log looks like this:
>>
>>2004/03/01 18:35:08 ** Unauthorized HTTP Access **
>><IP/TCP> 66.112.2.84:4288 ->> 24.6.228.79:80

>
>--
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>Expert Zone Columnist
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>MS-MVP (Windows)
>.
>

 
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