Microsoft MN-700

Does anyone know if the MS will be releasing a last patch
for this product - and I do understand that this product
is EOL? It would be a small effort on their part to fix
remaining bugs and then let it go. According to this
forum they will make a lot of people happy.

Any new information about status of the last patch,
please post it here

I think it is most UNlikely. Yes, MS discontinued the products some
time back.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:55:29 -0800, "Leon"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Does anyone know if the MS will be releasing a last patch
>for this product - and I do understand that this product
>is EOL? It would be a small effort on their part to fix
>remaining bugs and then let it go. According to this
>forum they will make a lot of people happy.
>
>Any new information about status of the last patch,
>please post it here

--
Barb Bowman
Expert Zone Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
MS-MVP (Windows)

Just wondering what needs to be fixed?

Bob


"Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I think it is most UNlikely. Yes, MS discontinued the products some
> time back.
>
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:55:29 -0800, "Leon"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Does anyone know if the MS will be releasing a last patch
>>for this product - and I do understand that this product
>>is EOL? It would be a small effort on their part to fix
>>remaining bugs and then let it go. According to this
>>forum they will make a lot of people happy.
>>
>>Any new information about status of the last patch,
>>please post it here
>
> --
> Barb Bowman
> Expert Zone Columnist
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> MS-MVP (Windows)

What needs to be fixed?

I will give you one bug for now:
1) DMZ - A big security issue - that you should know
about. Why don't you try to disable it.


>-----Original Message-----
>Just wondering what needs to be fixed?
>
>Bob
>
>
>"Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>>I think it is most UNlikely. Yes, MS discontinued the
products some
>> time back.
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:55:29 -0800, "Leon"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>Does anyone know if the MS will be releasing a last
patch
>>>for this product - and I do understand that this
product
>>>is EOL? It would be a small effort on their part to fix
>>>remaining bugs and then let it go. According to this
>>>forum they will make a lot of people happy.
>>>
>>>Any new information about status of the last patch,
>>>please post it here
>>
>> --
>> Barb Bowman
>> Expert Zone Columnist
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>
>
>.
>

I responded in general to the question of whether or not a patch would
be released -

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 23:36:03 GMT, "Bob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Just wondering what needs to be fixed?
>
>Bob
>
>
>"Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>>I think it is most UNlikely. Yes, MS discontinued the products some
>> time back.
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:55:29 -0800, "Leon"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>Does anyone know if the MS will be releasing a last patch
>>>for this product - and I do understand that this product
>>>is EOL? It would be a small effort on their part to fix
>>>remaining bugs and then let it go. According to this
>>>forum they will make a lot of people happy.
>>>
>>>Any new information about status of the last patch,
>>>please post it here
>>
>> --
>> Barb Bowman
>> Expert Zone Columnist
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>

--
Barb Bowman
Expert Zone Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
MS-MVP (Windows)

Barb,

In general you asked about issues with MN-700 like there
no issues exist for this product. If majority of user
didn't find any specific problems, that doesn't mean that
there no problems at all. I have a list of at least 5 so
far with WPA,DMZ and Port Forwarding. I am sure that MS
R&D team a well aware of the outstanding issues with this
product and I think MS management should let them address
those issues before getting out of this business.

MS should show to all of us, that they do care about
their customers! Otherwise, they should just post a
source code so someone else can address it.

>-----Original Message-----
>I responded in general to the question of whether or not
a patch would
>be released -
>
>On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 23:36:03 GMT, "Bob"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Just wondering what needs to be fixed?
>>
>>Bob
>>
>>
>>"Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed). ..
>>>I think it is most UNlikely. Yes, MS discontinued the
products some
>>> time back.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:55:29 -0800, "Leon"
>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Does anyone know if the MS will be releasing a last
patch
>>>>for this product - and I do understand that this
product
>>>>is EOL? It would be a small effort on their part to
fix
>>>>remaining bugs and then let it go. According to this
>>>>forum they will make a lot of people happy.
>>>>
>>>>Any new information about status of the last patch,
>>>>please post it here
>>>
>>> --
>>> Barb Bowman
>>> Expert Zone Columnist
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>
>
>--
>Barb Bowman
>Expert Zone Columnist
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>MS-MVP (Windows)
>.
>

Leon, I'm obviously not Barb, but the problem with expecting updates to this
discontinued hardware is that the team which created it has been disbanded.
They no longer exist at Microsoft, and have either moved off into other
projects or even other companies. As far as anyone has indicated, the
updates for the products available on the download website are it. Period.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Leon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:439d01c520eb$1320b080$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Barb,
>
> In general you asked about issues with MN-700 like there
> no issues exist for this product. If majority of user
> didn't find any specific problems, that doesn't mean that
> there no problems at all. I have a list of at least 5 so
> far with WPA,DMZ and Port Forwarding. I am sure that MS
> R&D team a well aware of the outstanding issues with this
> product and I think MS management should let them address
> those issues before getting out of this business.
>
> MS should show to all of us, that they do care about
> their customers! Otherwise, they should just post a
> source code so someone else can address it.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I responded in general to the question of whether or not
> a patch would
>>be released -
>>
>>On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 23:36:03 GMT, "Bob"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>Just wondering what needs to be fixed?
>>>
>>>Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>"Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message
>>>news:(E-Mail Removed) ...
>>>>I think it is most UNlikely. Yes, MS discontinued the
> products some
>>>> time back.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:55:29 -0800, "Leon"
>>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Does anyone know if the MS will be releasing a last
> patch
>>>>>for this product - and I do understand that this
> product
>>>>>is EOL? It would be a small effort on their part to
> fix
>>>>>remaining bugs and then let it go. According to this
>>>>>forum they will make a lot of people happy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any new information about status of the last patch,
>>>>>please post it here
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Barb Bowman
>>>> Expert Zone Columnist
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Barb Bowman
>>Expert Zone Columnist
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>MS-MVP (Windows)
>>.
>>

I never said that thee were no issues. We (MVPs, we do not work for MS)
cannot do any more than we are already doing. At one point MS had a team of
programmers and product managers dedicated to these products. They are
already OUT of this business and have been out for quite some time. MS has
separate teams that work on separate products. I imagine that the team
members have moved on to other depts or may have even left the company.
There is no one that even WE can contact.

Bottom line, the only recourse you have is to call the MS support and get a
SR# and then keep escalating.



Leon wrote:
> Barb,
>
> In general you asked about issues with MN-700 like there
> no issues exist for this product. If majority of user
> didn't find any specific problems, that doesn't mean that
> there no problems at all. I have a list of at least 5 so
> far with WPA,DMZ and Port Forwarding. I am sure that MS
> R&D team a well aware of the outstanding issues with this
> product and I think MS management should let them address
> those issues before getting out of this business.
>
> MS should show to all of us, that they do care about
> their customers! Otherwise, they should just post a
> source code so someone else can address it.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> I responded in general to the question of whether or not a patch
>> would be released -
>>
>> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 23:36:03 GMT, "Bob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> Just wondering what needs to be fixed?
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> "Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> I think it is most UNlikely. Yes, MS discontinued the products some
>>>> time back.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:55:29 -0800, "Leon"
>>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know if the MS will be releasing a last
> patch
>>>>> for this product - and I do understand that this
> product
>>>>> is EOL? It would be a small effort on their part to
> fix
>>>>> remaining bugs and then let it go. According to this
>>>>> forum they will make a lot of people happy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any new information about status of the last patch,
>>>>> please post it here
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Barb Bowman
>>>> Expert Zone Columnist
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Barb Bowman
>> Expert Zone Columnist
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>> .


--
Barb Bowman
Expert Zone Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
MS-MVP (Windows)

Barb & Chris,

I do understand that you don't have any power to make MS
release a patch or force them to do sustained engineering
on a product they EOL.

Thank you for response.

Leon


>-----Original Message-----
>I never said that thee were no issues. We (MVPs, we do
not work for MS)
>cannot do any more than we are already doing. At one
point MS had a team of
>programmers and product managers dedicated to these
products. They are
>already OUT of this business and have been out for quite
some time. MS has
>separate teams that work on separate products. I imagine
that the team
>members have moved on to other depts or may have even
left the company.
>There is no one that even WE can contact.
>
>Bottom line, the only recourse you have is to call the
MS support and get a
>SR# and then keep escalating.
>
>
>
>Leon wrote:
>> Barb,
>>
>> In general you asked about issues with MN-700 like
there
>> no issues exist for this product. If majority of user
>> didn't find any specific problems, that doesn't mean
that
>> there no problems at all. I have a list of at least 5
so
>> far with WPA,DMZ and Port Forwarding. I am sure that MS
>> R&D team a well aware of the outstanding issues with
this
>> product and I think MS management should let them
address
>> those issues before getting out of this business.
>>
>> MS should show to all of us, that they do care about
>> their customers! Otherwise, they should just post a
>> source code so someone else can address it.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> I responded in general to the question of whether or
not a patch
>>> would be released -
>>>
>>> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 23:36:03 GMT, "Bob"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just wondering what needs to be fixed?
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in
>> message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> I think it is most UNlikely. Yes, MS discontinued
the products some
>>>>> time back.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:55:29 -0800, "Leon"
>>>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know if the MS will be releasing a last
>> patch
>>>>>> for this product - and I do understand that this
>> product
>>>>>> is EOL? It would be a small effort on their part to
>> fix
>>>>>> remaining bugs and then let it go. According to
this
>>>>>> forum they will make a lot of people happy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any new information about status of the last patch,
>>>>>> please post it here
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Barb Bowman
>>>>> Expert Zone Columnist
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Barb Bowman
>>> Expert Zone Columnist
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>> .
>
>
>--
> Barb Bowman
> Expert Zone Columnist
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> MS-MVP (Windows)
>
>
>.
>