Meraki Wifi Stumbler

Hello everyone,

Meraki has made a small smart web-based application for planning a wireless
network. The application is called Meraki Stumble, and you can start here
http://meraki.com/tools/stumbler/.

I've tried it on until now 5 PCs, but it does not work properly. The
Stumbler starts well enough, but cannot see any wireless network. The PCs
are all XP machines and I've used IE08 (but
also unsuccessfully tried with Firefox and Safari). I have had other in my
company trying and they too cannot get it to work.

I've talked with Meraki - and they say they have not heard of problems
elsewhere, and I cannot on Google find any other, who cannot get it to work
around the world. It made me to think about something with the Danish
versions of XP and IE08 -- but it would be very strange.

The Stumbler is running as a Java applet and I have installed the latest
version of Java on all PCs. One can wonder whether it has something to do
with the Java applet must have access to the wireless network card in some
way, and it could possibly somehow be a problem with the permission doing
that.

It is interesting that I have access to a MacBook, on which the Stumbler
runs without problems in Safari.

So I have following questions:

1. Can you get stumbler to work on your PC (you must obviously have a
wireless network card on the PC).
2. If not - you have the slightest idea of what can be wrong (Setup of XP,
setup of IE08, setup of Java, general safety settings or whatever)?

It will help much if you would spend 1 minute to test if it works on your PC
and tell the result to the group.

MVH Lasse

PS! Together we can solve everything ....

Lasse wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Meraki has made a small smart web-based application for planning a
> wireless network. The application is called Meraki Stumble, and you
> can start here http://meraki.com/tools/stumbler/.
>
> I've tried it on until now 5 PCs, but it does not work properly. The
> Stumbler starts well enough, but cannot see any wireless network. The
> PCs are all XP machines and I've used IE08 (but
> also unsuccessfully tried with Firefox and Safari). I have had other
> in my company trying and they too cannot get it to work.
>
> I've talked with Meraki - and they say they have not heard of
> problems elsewhere, and I cannot on Google find any other, who cannot
> get it to work around the world. It made me to think about something
> with the Danish versions of XP and IE08 -- but it would be very
> strange.
>
> The Stumbler is running as a Java applet and I have installed the
> latest version of Java on all PCs. One can wonder whether it has
> something to do with the Java applet must have access to the wireless
> network card in some way, and it could possibly somehow be a problem
> with the permission doing that.
>
> It is interesting that I have access to a MacBook, on which the
> Stumbler runs without problems in Safari.
>
> So I have following questions:
>
> 1. Can you get stumbler to work on your PC (you must obviously have a
> wireless network card on the PC).
> 2. If not - you have the slightest idea of what can be wrong (Setup
> of XP, setup of IE08, setup of Java, general safety settings or
> whatever)?
>
> It will help much if you would spend 1 minute to test if it works on
> your PC and tell the result to the group.
>
> MVH Lasse
>
> PS! Together we can solve everything ....

I tried it on an XP Pro Pentium 3 desktop with a Realtek 8187L USB wifi
adapter and it worked with Firefox OK.

I did notice that it was not consistent in that it sometimes would not
identify a network (random selection), but always seemed to be just one
of those available.

Refreshing the scan would then see it, but it was a bit flakey in the
way it operated.

I wasn't all that impressed with it and consider Inssider to be a
similar and better approach in my estimation. But of course that is
not web based.

http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:55:45 +0100, "Lasse" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> > http://meraki.com/tools/stumbler/.
>
> > 1. Can you get stumbler to work on your PC (you must obviously have
> > a wireless network card on the PC).
>
> Works fine. XP SP3 under FireFox 3.6. However, under IE
> 8.0.6001.18702, I get a list of access points, but a blank graph
> showing the number of AP's. Both list all AP's as 802.11b, which is
> wrong. They're all 802.11g.
>
> > I have had other in my
> > company trying and they too cannot get it to work.
>
> Something might be blocking downloading Java applets. Check security
> settings and make sure Java is enabled in your browser.
>
> Go unto:
> Control Panel -> Java
> and check the "Network Settings". It should point to "Use Browser
> Settings" unless you have a proxy server running at your company.
>
> Verify that Java is correctly installed:
> <www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp>
> Current is V1.6.0_18
>
> > PS! Together we can solve everything ....
>
> If one person will take 1 hr to fix something, two will take 2 hrs, 3
> will take 3 hrs, and so on.

I tried it under Explorer 8 on my Intel wifi card laptop and same same
same problem as Jeff L - no graphs shown.

Under Firefox (latest uodate) all OK.

So it looks like it has a few problems.

--

me here wrote:

> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:55:45 +0100, "Lasse" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > http://meraki.com/tools/stumbler/.
> >
> > > 1. Can you get stumbler to work on your PC (you must obviously
> > > have a wireless network card on the PC).
> >
> > Works fine. XP SP3 under FireFox 3.6. However, under IE
> > 8.0.6001.18702, I get a list of access points, but a blank graph
> > showing the number of AP's. Both list all AP's as 802.11b, which is
> > wrong. They're all 802.11g.
> >
> > > I have had other in my
> > > company trying and they too cannot get it to work.
> >
> > Something might be blocking downloading Java applets. Check
> > security settings and make sure Java is enabled in your browser.
> >
> > Go unto:
> > Control Panel -> Java
> > and check the "Network Settings". It should point to "Use Browser
> > Settings" unless you have a proxy server running at your company.
> >
> > Verify that Java is correctly installed:
> > <www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp>
> > Current is V1.6.0_18
> >
> > > PS! Together we can solve everything ....
> >
> > If one person will take 1 hr to fix something, two will take 2 hrs,
> > 3 will take 3 hrs, and so on.
>
> I tried it under Explorer 8 on my Intel wifi card laptop and same same
> same problem as Jeff L - no graphs shown.
>
> Under Firefox (latest uodate) all OK.
>
> So it looks like it has a few problems.

Please excuse my "same" repeats - it's a problem with Xanaview.

Rob

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:13:59 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I'm running DD-WRT v24-sp2 (07/21/09) std. Hmmm... probably time to
>try the latest version.

Do you mean v24-SP1? The website shows v24-SP1 as being the latest
stable version, and v24-preSP2 as being the latest development
release.

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:44:41 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:50:33 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:13:59 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I'm running DD-WRT v24-sp2 (07/21/09) std. Hmmm... probably time to
>>>try the latest version.
>>
>>Do you mean v24-SP1? The website shows v24-SP1 as being the latest
>>stable version, and v24-preSP2 as being the latest development
>>release.
>
>Nope. I like running the bleeding edge firmware before I inflict
>anything on my coffee shop customers. I switched to SP2 for the
>multiple SSID feature.

I guess my question was how are you running SP2 when it's not
available yet? Unless you're just having a bit of fun with me.

>Incidentally, if you go to the download database at:
><http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database>
>inscribe "whr-hp-g54" into the search box, and then click on the first
>item it finds, the recommended firmware version appears as:
> v24 preSP2 [Beta] Build 13064

Exactly. No SP2 to be found anywhere, AFAICS. You just might be the
only person running it.

On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:53:09 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:27:26 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:44:41 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:50:33 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:13:59 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm running DD-WRT v24-sp2 (07/21/09) std. Hmmm... probably time to
>>>>>try the latest version.
>>>>
>>>>Do you mean v24-SP1? The website shows v24-SP1 as being the latest
>>>>stable version, and v24-preSP2 as being the latest development
>>>>release.
>>>
>>>Nope. I like running the bleeding edge firmware before I inflict
>>>anything on my coffee shop customers. I switched to SP2 for the
>>>multiple SSID feature.
>>
>>I guess my question was how are you running SP2 when it's not
>>available yet? Unless you're just having a bit of fun with me.
>
>I'm not sure what you mean by "available".

By "available" I mean "exists", as in SP2 doesn't seem to exist yet.
All I see on the dd-wrt site are pre-SP2 builds, with 'pre' meaning
'before'. At some point it's reasonable to assume that one of those
builds will become 'SP2', but they aren't there yet.

Anyway, I think I simply took you too literally. I see (now) what you
meant when you said you were running SP2.