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I have a 2003 standard server which does not appear when I browse the network.
Browsing on a DC running DNS and WINS, it does not appear.

`cmd /k ping MyServer`
\\MyServer\Share work too.

Running Browcon....

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
System Missing from its Local Subnet Master Browser's List

Diagnosis:

The subnet master browser on the missing system's subnet does not have the
missing system in its browse list. Because of this, the missing system may
also be missing from all other browse lists.

This problem must be addressed before testing for other possible issues.

NOTE: if the missing system was taken offline or hidden intentionally, it
could take thirty minutes before this gets propagated across the network.
Until then, the system may be missing in some master browser lists but not in
others.



Possible Causes:


1.

Run the command "net config server" (without quotes) at the command
prompt on the missing system. Is the "Server hidden" setting set to "Yes"?
If so, this is why the system is missing in the browse list. To unhide the
computer from the browser list, type "net config server /hidden:no" (without
the quotation marks) at the command prompt on the missing system, and then
press ENTER.
2.

If the missing system is a Windows NT 4.0 system, check the length of
the server comment. When the server comment is greater than 48 characters,
the server name may disappear from the browsing list. The server comment may
be displayed by typing the following command at an MS-DOS command prompt:
"net config server" (without the quotation marks). The server comment may be
set by typing the following command at an MS-DOS command prompt:

"net config server /srvcomment:"text"" (without the quotation marks)

NOTE: This command does not allow you to specify a srvcomment greater
than 48 characters. Nevertheless, the problem may exist if the srvcomment
size is greater than 48 characters when it set directly in the registry
(HKLM\System\CCS\Service\LanmanServer\Parameters).

3.

The missing system's host announcement frame was not received by the
subnet master browser. Reboot the missing system so that it will announce
itself on the subnet again.
4.

The subnet master browser may be multihomed. i.e. a system with more
than one network interface including RAS/RRAS servers. Multihomed systems
should not be allowed to hold a master browser role. Disable the Computer
Browser Service on all multihomed systems. In this condition these systems
will still be able to browse, but will not participate in browsing elections.
5.

There may be contention between systems on the subnet as to which
system is the subnet's master browser. Look for evidence of this problem in
the System event log on systems located on the missing client's subnet. Do
you see Browser events with the ID 8003? There are many possible reasons for
these events:

*

Routers on the network are configured to forward UDP broadcasts.
*

IP subnet masks are not consistently set on all the systems on the
subnet/network i.e. there is more than one logical IP subnet sharing one
physical subnet. This is common on networks that use DHCP superscopes.
*

Incorrect static WINS entries. Ensure the entries for the 1B
domain name, the PDC's NetBIOS name, and the subnet master browser's NetBIOS
name are correct and consistent on all WINS servers on the network.
*

Switch configuration issues. i.e. switches should be consistently
set to full-duplex or half duplex, but not mixed.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. the system is not hidden
2. this is a server 2003 system
3. the sytem has been rebooted several times
4. The Master Browser has several nics, but they are teamed and share a
single ip.
5. I used to have 8003 eventys but have since stopped the Computer Browser
on everything except a few servers.


Any ideas ?

This is really fraustrating.


--
Children's Cancer Institute Australia
http://www.ccia.org.au

The first thing to check is that Netbios over TCP/IP is enabled on the
server's NIC. The segment browse list is built using LAN broadcasts. The
machine will never appear in a domain browse list if it is not in the
local segment browse list.

When you are sure that Netbt is enabled, do a net view \\servername from
a command prompt on another machine in the same subnet. Does this display
the shares on the server? Can you map one using net use
\\servername\filename?

If that is working, try a net view command on this machine. Does it show
the W2003 server?

"Matt Joyce" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:64224068-A440-403A-AD68-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> I have a 2003 standard server which does not appear when I browse the
> network.
> Browsing on a DC running DNS and WINS, it does not appear.
>
> `cmd /k ping MyServer`
> \\MyServer\Share work too.
>
> Running Browcon....
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> System Missing from its Local Subnet Master Browser's List
>
> Diagnosis:
>
> The subnet master browser on the missing system's subnet does not have the
> missing system in its browse list. Because of this, the missing system
> may
> also be missing from all other browse lists.
>
> This problem must be addressed before testing for other possible issues.
>
> NOTE: if the missing system was taken offline or hidden intentionally, it
> could take thirty minutes before this gets propagated across the network.
> Until then, the system may be missing in some master browser lists but not
> in
> others.
>
>
>
> Possible Causes:
>
>
> 1.
>
> Run the command "net config server" (without quotes) at the command
> prompt on the missing system. Is the "Server hidden" setting set to
> "Yes"?
> If so, this is why the system is missing in the browse list. To unhide
> the
> computer from the browser list, type "net config server /hidden:no"
> (without
> the quotation marks) at the command prompt on the missing system, and then
> press ENTER.
> 2.
>
> If the missing system is a Windows NT 4.0 system, check the length of
> the server comment. When the server comment is greater than 48
> characters,
> the server name may disappear from the browsing list. The server comment
> may
> be displayed by typing the following command at an MS-DOS command prompt:
> "net config server" (without the quotation marks). The server comment may
> be
> set by typing the following command at an MS-DOS command prompt:
>
> "net config server /srvcomment:"text"" (without the quotation marks)
>
> NOTE: This command does not allow you to specify a srvcomment greater
> than 48 characters. Nevertheless, the problem may exist if the srvcomment
> size is greater than 48 characters when it set directly in the registry
> (HKLM\System\CCS\Service\LanmanServer\Parameters).
>
> 3.
>
> The missing system's host announcement frame was not received by the
> subnet master browser. Reboot the missing system so that it will announce
> itself on the subnet again.
> 4.
>
> The subnet master browser may be multihomed. i.e. a system with more
> than one network interface including RAS/RRAS servers. Multihomed systems
> should not be allowed to hold a master browser role. Disable the Computer
> Browser Service on all multihomed systems. In this condition these
> systems
> will still be able to browse, but will not participate in browsing
> elections.
> 5.
>
> There may be contention between systems on the subnet as to which
> system is the subnet's master browser. Look for evidence of this problem
> in
> the System event log on systems located on the missing client's subnet. Do
> you see Browser events with the ID 8003? There are many possible reasons
> for
> these events:
>
> *
>
> Routers on the network are configured to forward UDP broadcasts.
> *
>
> IP subnet masks are not consistently set on all the systems on
> the
> subnet/network i.e. there is more than one logical IP subnet sharing one
> physical subnet. This is common on networks that use DHCP superscopes.
> *
>
> Incorrect static WINS entries. Ensure the entries for the 1B
> domain name, the PDC's NetBIOS name, and the subnet master browser's
> NetBIOS
> name are correct and consistent on all WINS servers on the network.
> *
>
> Switch configuration issues. i.e. switches should be
> consistently
> set to full-duplex or half duplex, but not mixed.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 1. the system is not hidden
> 2. this is a server 2003 system
> 3. the sytem has been rebooted several times
> 4. The Master Browser has several nics, but they are teamed and share a
> single ip.
> 5. I used to have 8003 eventys but have since stopped the Computer Browser
> on everything except a few servers.
>
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> This is really fraustrating.
>
>
> --
> Children's Cancer Institute Australia
> http://www.ccia.org.au

You've hit on all the troubleshooting steps I normally give people for this
problem, so I have only a few more left to troubleshoot with you. Before we
go any further however, try this. On the problem machine, go into Network
Connections > LAN Connection > Properties > General Tab. Deselect the
checkbox for File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks > click OK >
Check the box to enable it again > click OK. Although not strictly
necessary, reboot the machine for good measure.

--
Todd J Heron, MCSE
Windows Server 2003/2000/NT
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Note: I do not top-post or bottom-post so that my responses are always easy
to read in this forum and the Google Archives. This posting is provided
"as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.

Yes, I can run `net view \\problemserver` and see all the right resources.
This works on workstations and on the DC.

What's odd is, I need to access a none shared drive today and tried to use
\\problemserver\e$, was correctly challenged but refused access.
However, \\nn.nn.nn.nn\$e worked.

Everyone here maps drives to this server and everyone can print.
I have entires in wins and dns, though I do have some 8003 events and some
3000 dns events.

Is there anyway to capture the annoucning broadcast when the server boots.
If I use a sniffer, what an I looking for ?

Thanks





"Bill Grant" wrote:

> The first thing to check is that Netbios over TCP/IP is enabled on the
> server's NIC. The segment browse list is built using LAN broadcasts. The
> machine will never appear in a domain browse list if it is not in the
> local segment browse list.
>
> When you are sure that Netbt is enabled, do a net view \\servername from
> a command prompt on another machine in the same subnet. Does this display
> the shares on the server? Can you map one using net use
> \\servername\filename?
>
> If that is working, try a net view command on this machine. Does it show
> the W2003 server?
>
> "Matt Joyce" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:64224068-A440-403A-AD68-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> > I have a 2003 standard server which does not appear when I browse the
> > network.
> > Browsing on a DC running DNS and WINS, it does not appear.
> >
> > `cmd /k ping MyServer`
> > \\MyServer\Share work too.
> >
> > Running Browcon....
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > System Missing from its Local Subnet Master Browser's List
> >
> > Diagnosis:
> >
> > The subnet master browser on the missing system's subnet does not have the
> > missing system in its browse list. Because of this, the missing system
> > may
> > also be missing from all other browse lists.
> >
> > This problem must be addressed before testing for other possible issues.
> >
> > NOTE: if the missing system was taken offline or hidden intentionally, it
> > could take thirty minutes before this gets propagated across the network.
> > Until then, the system may be missing in some master browser lists but not
> > in
> > others.
> >
> >
> >
> > Possible Causes:
> >
> >
> > 1.
> >
> > Run the command "net config server" (without quotes) at the command
> > prompt on the missing system. Is the "Server hidden" setting set to
> > "Yes"?
> > If so, this is why the system is missing in the browse list. To unhide
> > the
> > computer from the browser list, type "net config server /hidden:no"
> > (without
> > the quotation marks) at the command prompt on the missing system, and then
> > press ENTER.
> > 2.
> >
> > If the missing system is a Windows NT 4.0 system, check the length of
> > the server comment. When the server comment is greater than 48
> > characters,
> > the server name may disappear from the browsing list. The server comment
> > may
> > be displayed by typing the following command at an MS-DOS command prompt:
> > "net config server" (without the quotation marks). The server comment may
> > be
> > set by typing the following command at an MS-DOS command prompt:
> >
> > "net config server /srvcomment:"text"" (without the quotation marks)
> >
> > NOTE: This command does not allow you to specify a srvcomment greater
> > than 48 characters. Nevertheless, the problem may exist if the srvcomment
> > size is greater than 48 characters when it set directly in the registry
> > (HKLM\System\CCS\Service\LanmanServer\Parameters).
> >
> > 3.
> >
> > The missing system's host announcement frame was not received by the
> > subnet master browser. Reboot the missing system so that it will announce
> > itself on the subnet again.
> > 4.
> >
> > The subnet master browser may be multihomed. i.e. a system with more
> > than one network interface including RAS/RRAS servers. Multihomed systems
> > should not be allowed to hold a master browser role. Disable the Computer
> > Browser Service on all multihomed systems. In this condition these
> > systems
> > will still be able to browse, but will not participate in browsing
> > elections.
> > 5.
> >
> > There may be contention between systems on the subnet as to which
> > system is the subnet's master browser. Look for evidence of this problem
> > in
> > the System event log on systems located on the missing client's subnet. Do
> > you see Browser events with the ID 8003? There are many possible reasons
> > for
> > these events:
> >
> > *
> >
> > Routers on the network are configured to forward UDP broadcasts.
> > *
> >
> > IP subnet masks are not consistently set on all the systems on
> > the
> > subnet/network i.e. there is more than one logical IP subnet sharing one
> > physical subnet. This is common on networks that use DHCP superscopes.
> > *
> >
> > Incorrect static WINS entries. Ensure the entries for the 1B
> > domain name, the PDC's NetBIOS name, and the subnet master browser's
> > NetBIOS
> > name are correct and consistent on all WINS servers on the network.
> > *
> >
> > Switch configuration issues. i.e. switches should be
> > consistently
> > set to full-duplex or half duplex, but not mixed.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > 1. the system is not hidden
> > 2. this is a server 2003 system
> > 3. the sytem has been rebooted several times
> > 4. The Master Browser has several nics, but they are teamed and share a
> > single ip.
> > 5. I used to have 8003 eventys but have since stopped the Computer Browser
> > on everything except a few servers.
> >
> >
> > Any ideas ?
> >
> > This is really fraustrating.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Children's Cancer Institute Australia
> > http://www.ccia.org.au
>
>
>

Thanks Todd,

What impact will this have on shared resources, will shares and printers be
lost ?

"Todd J Heron" wrote:

> You've hit on all the troubleshooting steps I normally give people for this
> problem, so I have only a few more left to troubleshoot with you. Before we
> go any further however, try this. On the problem machine, go into Network
> Connections > LAN Connection > Properties > General Tab. Deselect the
> checkbox for File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks > click OK >
> Check the box to enable it again > click OK. Although not strictly
> necessary, reboot the machine for good measure.
>
> --
> Todd J Heron, MCSE
> Windows Server 2003/2000/NT
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Note: I do not top-post or bottom-post so that my responses are always easy
> to read in this forum and the Google Archives. This posting is provided
> "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
>
>