ME-SE has me on my knees

Background:
I'm running a router with one computer connected via cable and the other via
wireless card. #1 machine had the wireless running W98 and #2 was running
ME. All was fine until the attacks from the internet got so bad that the
extra software running to provide security nearly brought #2 to a snail pace
which was unsat for some of the apps I was running on it. Enter new machine
#3. I put it together and in part to stay legal since I had an extra OS
laying around I chose to install it. Also there has been much discussion
that SE was better than ME and so I purchased it a long time ago, but never
went through the pain of wiping everything from #2 to do so. Also didn't
want to kill the current configuration on it until I was sure this new box
#3 was OK. So SE is installed on #3. It does seems that SE might be a little
old for this new hardware although it came with SE drivers. There was much
on #2 HDD that I wanted transferred to #3. #2 was getting pretty full even
at 40GB with data and downloaded updates, games, etc. Because of that
condition everthing was no longer ending up in my primary storage area. And
when I temporarily piled everything around my router so I could accomplish
the transfer, I missed some important files and data. So I moved the
wireless card from #1 to #2 and #3 is at the router and wired.

Logging into the router from either machine I can see the DHCP client list
including both machines. I can browse the internet from either machine.
In networking the hardware plus TCP/IP is installed along with MS network
and sharing.
From #2 I can find #3 and map drives, but exploring the network shows me the
workgroup and #2 only.
#3 can not find #2. Double clicking the Entire network gives error cannot
browse the network, I think, and sometimes it will show the workgroup with
#3 machine.
May have nothing to do with it, but it doesn't seem correct. Group and name
were entered in lower case. On #3, the SE machine, when allow all upper case
is checked that is what it does, or rather converts it to all upper case.
Unchecked, it capitalizes the first letter. On ME, it shows me what I typed.
Also running the troubleshooter from ME, it keeps nagging me that I might
have duplicated that name or it is already in use. Something like that.
I apparently have some issue with the troubleshooter on SE. Choosing any of
the statements under networking trouble shooter and clicking next gives a
blank page.
I've read until I think I need an eye doctor and a hand full of aspirin.
Please Help.


Norman

Update.
I ran net diag.
SE acting as server, the ME machine says OK.
Running from ME, SE can't see the other.

I have Zone Alarm 5.5 on the ME machine. I've seen where there had been some
complaints about ZA interferring and having to remove it. ZA site says it
was fixed after 5.01. Also I shut it totally down, I think through editing
the Startup. Your thoughts appreciated.
Does anyone know the proper setting for browse master and LanManager
Announce for my current situation. Currently at Auto and No.
Norman

"E_Net_Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Background:
> I'm running a router with one computer connected via cable and the other
via
> wireless card. #1 machine had the wireless running W98 and #2 was running
> ME. All was fine until the attacks from the internet got so bad that the
> extra software running to provide security nearly brought #2 to a snail
pace
> which was unsat for some of the apps I was running on it. Enter new
machine
> #3. I put it together and in part to stay legal since I had an extra OS
> laying around I chose to install it. Also there has been much discussion
> that SE was better than ME and so I purchased it a long time ago, but
never
> went through the pain of wiping everything from #2 to do so. Also didn't
> want to kill the current configuration on it until I was sure this new box
> #3 was OK. So SE is installed on #3. It does seems that SE might be a
little
> old for this new hardware although it came with SE drivers. There was much
> on #2 HDD that I wanted transferred to #3. #2 was getting pretty full even
> at 40GB with data and downloaded updates, games, etc. Because of that
> condition everthing was no longer ending up in my primary storage area.
And
> when I temporarily piled everything around my router so I could accomplish
> the transfer, I missed some important files and data. So I moved the
> wireless card from #1 to #2 and #3 is at the router and wired.
>
> Logging into the router from either machine I can see the DHCP client list
> including both machines. I can browse the internet from either machine.
> In networking the hardware plus TCP/IP is installed along with MS network
> and sharing.
> From #2 I can find #3 and map drives, but exploring the network shows me
the
> workgroup and #2 only.
> #3 can not find #2. Double clicking the Entire network gives error cannot
> browse the network, I think, and sometimes it will show the workgroup with
> #3 machine.
> May have nothing to do with it, but it doesn't seem correct. Group and
name
> were entered in lower case. On #3, the SE machine, when allow all upper
case
> is checked that is what it does, or rather converts it to all upper case.
> Unchecked, it capitalizes the first letter. On ME, it shows me what I
typed.
> Also running the troubleshooter from ME, it keeps nagging me that I might
> have duplicated that name or it is already in use. Something like that.
> I apparently have some issue with the troubleshooter on SE. Choosing any
of
> the statements under networking trouble shooter and clicking next gives a
> blank page.
> I've read until I think I need an eye doctor and a hand full of aspirin.
> Please Help.
>
>
> Norman
>
>
>

Still letting the router auto assign, etc. as I've had know reason to
believe that wasn't working as I'm able to browse the net from either
machine. BUT, I'm now beginning to believe anything is possible. Against
what seems to be 95% of the advice I've found for browse master and LM
announce, I've set the ME to enable and yes. I now have full access to SE on
machine 3. And I can do a find and it shows #2, but clicking gives an error
is not available. Could not be found. And the more I look, it seems this
networking issue seems to extend across several platforms including XP.
Can someone help,pleasse
Norman



"E_Net_Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Update.
> I ran net diag.
> SE acting as server, the ME machine says OK.
> Running from ME, SE can't see the other.
>
> I have Zone Alarm 5.5 on the ME machine. I've seen where there had been
some
> complaints about ZA interferring and having to remove it. ZA site says it
> was fixed after 5.01. Also I shut it totally down, I think through editing
> the Startup. Your thoughts appreciated.
> Does anyone know the proper setting for browse master and LanManager
> Announce for my current situation. Currently at Auto and No.
> Norman
>
> "E_Net_Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Background:
> > I'm running a router with one computer connected via cable and the other
> via
> > wireless card. #1 machine had the wireless running W98 and #2 was
running
> > ME. All was fine until the attacks from the internet got so bad that
the
> > extra software running to provide security nearly brought #2 to a snail
> pace
> > which was unsat for some of the apps I was running on it. Enter new
> machine
> > #3. I put it together and in part to stay legal since I had an extra OS
> > laying around I chose to install it. Also there has been much discussion
> > that SE was better than ME and so I purchased it a long time ago, but
> never
> > went through the pain of wiping everything from #2 to do so. Also didn't
> > want to kill the current configuration on it until I was sure this new
box
> > #3 was OK. So SE is installed on #3. It does seems that SE might be a
> little
> > old for this new hardware although it came with SE drivers. There was
much
> > on #2 HDD that I wanted transferred to #3. #2 was getting pretty full
even
> > at 40GB with data and downloaded updates, games, etc. Because of that
> > condition everthing was no longer ending up in my primary storage area.
> And
> > when I temporarily piled everything around my router so I could
accomplish
> > the transfer, I missed some important files and data. So I moved the
> > wireless card from #1 to #2 and #3 is at the router and wired.
> >
> > Logging into the router from either machine I can see the DHCP client
list
> > including both machines. I can browse the internet from either machine.
> > In networking the hardware plus TCP/IP is installed along with MS
network
> > and sharing.
> > From #2 I can find #3 and map drives, but exploring the network shows me
> the
> > workgroup and #2 only.
> > #3 can not find #2. Double clicking the Entire network gives error
cannot
> > browse the network, I think, and sometimes it will show the workgroup
with
> > #3 machine.
> > May have nothing to do with it, but it doesn't seem correct. Group and
> name
> > were entered in lower case. On #3, the SE machine, when allow all upper
> case
> > is checked that is what it does, or rather converts it to all upper
case.
> > Unchecked, it capitalizes the first letter. On ME, it shows me what I
> typed.
> > Also running the troubleshooter from ME, it keeps nagging me that I
might
> > have duplicated that name or it is already in use. Something like that.
> > I apparently have some issue with the troubleshooter on SE. Choosing any
> of
> > the statements under networking trouble shooter and clicking next gives
a
> > blank page.
> > I've read until I think I need an eye doctor and a hand full of aspirin.
> > Please Help.
> >
> >
> > Norman
> >
> >
> >
>
>

ZA, ZAP actually. Even though I had it so nothing would load on startup,
something must have been. I reset all the check marks, rebooted, and created
a range of ip's for my internal net and violla. I'm so exhausted I can
barely believe my eyes. I guess I'll try the defaults for lmannounce and
browse master.
Think back, when I did the hardwire that was one of the first reactions. ZAP
wanted an OK on the new network. I can only wonder why it wasn't nagging me
about one now?


GOK
God Only Knows
diagnosis by a doctor to a friend.
Norman


"E_Net_Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Still letting the router auto assign, etc. as I've had know reason to
> believe that wasn't working as I'm able to browse the net from either
> machine. BUT, I'm now beginning to believe anything is possible. Against
> what seems to be 95% of the advice I've found for browse master and LM
> announce, I've set the ME to enable and yes. I now have full access to SE
on
> machine 3. And I can do a find and it shows #2, but clicking gives an
error
> is not available. Could not be found. And the more I look, it seems this
> networking issue seems to extend across several platforms including XP.
> Can someone help,pleasse
> Norman
>
>
>
> "E_Net_Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Update.
> > I ran net diag.
> > SE acting as server, the ME machine says OK.
> > Running from ME, SE can't see the other.
> >
> > I have Zone Alarm 5.5 on the ME machine. I've seen where there had been
> some
> > complaints about ZA interferring and having to remove it. ZA site says
it
> > was fixed after 5.01. Also I shut it totally down, I think through
editing
> > the Startup. Your thoughts appreciated.
> > Does anyone know the proper setting for browse master and LanManager
> > Announce for my current situation. Currently at Auto and No.
> > Norman
> >
> > "E_Net_Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Background:
> > > I'm running a router with one computer connected via cable and the
other
> > via
> > > wireless card. #1 machine had the wireless running W98 and #2 was
> running
> > > ME. All was fine until the attacks from the internet got so bad that
> the
> > > extra software running to provide security nearly brought #2 to a
snail
> > pace
> > > which was unsat for some of the apps I was running on it. Enter new
> > machine
> > > #3. I put it together and in part to stay legal since I had an extra
OS
> > > laying around I chose to install it. Also there has been much
discussion
> > > that SE was better than ME and so I purchased it a long time ago, but
> > never
> > > went through the pain of wiping everything from #2 to do so. Also
didn't
> > > want to kill the current configuration on it until I was sure this new
> box
> > > #3 was OK. So SE is installed on #3. It does seems that SE might be a
> > little
> > > old for this new hardware although it came with SE drivers. There was
> much
> > > on #2 HDD that I wanted transferred to #3. #2 was getting pretty full
> even
> > > at 40GB with data and downloaded updates, games, etc. Because of that
> > > condition everthing was no longer ending up in my primary storage
area.
> > And
> > > when I temporarily piled everything around my router so I could
> accomplish
> > > the transfer, I missed some important files and data. So I moved the
> > > wireless card from #1 to #2 and #3 is at the router and wired.
> > >
> > > Logging into the router from either machine I can see the DHCP client
> list
> > > including both machines. I can browse the internet from either
machine.
> > > In networking the hardware plus TCP/IP is installed along with MS
> network
> > > and sharing.
> > > From #2 I can find #3 and map drives, but exploring the network shows
me
> > the
> > > workgroup and #2 only.
> > > #3 can not find #2. Double clicking the Entire network gives error
> cannot
> > > browse the network, I think, and sometimes it will show the workgroup
> with
> > > #3 machine.
> > > May have nothing to do with it, but it doesn't seem correct. Group and
> > name
> > > were entered in lower case. On #3, the SE machine, when allow all
upper
> > case
> > > is checked that is what it does, or rather converts it to all upper
> case.
> > > Unchecked, it capitalizes the first letter. On ME, it shows me what I
> > typed.
> > > Also running the troubleshooter from ME, it keeps nagging me that I
> might
> > > have duplicated that name or it is already in use. Something like
that.
> > > I apparently have some issue with the troubleshooter on SE. Choosing
any
> > of
> > > the statements under networking trouble shooter and clicking next
gives
> a
> > > blank page.
> > > I've read until I think I need an eye doctor and a hand full of
aspirin.
> > > Please Help.
> > >
> > >
> > > Norman
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

wow what fun :>

uninstall ZAP while troubleshooting ...even disabled it interferes
sometimes..

master browser selection would be a fight that ME would probably win....but
a thing to remember is that it 'may' take up to 15 minutes for the network
to populate (before you can see anything)


"E_Net_Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> ZA, ZAP actually. Even though I had it so nothing would load on startup,
> something must have been. I reset all the check marks, rebooted, and
> created
> a range of ip's for my internal net and violla. I'm so exhausted I can
> barely believe my eyes. I guess I'll try the defaults for lmannounce and
> browse master.
> Think back, when I did the hardwire that was one of the first reactions.
> ZAP
> wanted an OK on the new network. I can only wonder why it wasn't nagging
> me
> about one now?
>
>
> GOK
> God Only Knows
> diagnosis by a doctor to a friend.
> Norman
>
>
> "E_Net_Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Still letting the router auto assign, etc. as I've had know reason to
>> believe that wasn't working as I'm able to browse the net from either
>> machine. BUT, I'm now beginning to believe anything is possible.
>> Against
>> what seems to be 95% of the advice I've found for browse master and LM
>> announce, I've set the ME to enable and yes. I now have full access to SE
> on
>> machine 3. And I can do a find and it shows #2, but clicking gives an
> error
>> is not available. Could not be found. And the more I look, it seems this
>> networking issue seems to extend across several platforms including XP.
>> Can someone help,pleasse
>> Norman
>>
>>
>>
>> "E_Net_Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Update.
>> > I ran net diag.
>> > SE acting as server, the ME machine says OK.
>> > Running from ME, SE can't see the other.
>> >
>> > I have Zone Alarm 5.5 on the ME machine. I've seen where there had been
>> some
>> > complaints about ZA interferring and having to remove it. ZA site says
> it
>> > was fixed after 5.01. Also I shut it totally down, I think through
> editing
>> > the Startup. Your thoughts appreciated.
>> > Does anyone know the proper setting for browse master and LanManager
>> > Announce for my current situation. Currently at Auto and No.
>> > Norman
>> >
>> > "E_Net_Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > > Background:
>> > > I'm running a router with one computer connected via cable and the
> other
>> > via
>> > > wireless card. #1 machine had the wireless running W98 and #2 was
>> running
>> > > ME. All was fine until the attacks from the internet got so bad that
>> the
>> > > extra software running to provide security nearly brought #2 to a
> snail
>> > pace
>> > > which was unsat for some of the apps I was running on it. Enter new
>> > machine
>> > > #3. I put it together and in part to stay legal since I had an extra
> OS
>> > > laying around I chose to install it. Also there has been much
> discussion
>> > > that SE was better than ME and so I purchased it a long time ago, but
>> > never
>> > > went through the pain of wiping everything from #2 to do so. Also
> didn't
>> > > want to kill the current configuration on it until I was sure this
>> > > new
>> box
>> > > #3 was OK. So SE is installed on #3. It does seems that SE might be a
>> > little
>> > > old for this new hardware although it came with SE drivers. There was
>> much
>> > > on #2 HDD that I wanted transferred to #3. #2 was getting pretty full
>> even
>> > > at 40GB with data and downloaded updates, games, etc. Because of that
>> > > condition everthing was no longer ending up in my primary storage
> area.
>> > And
>> > > when I temporarily piled everything around my router so I could
>> accomplish
>> > > the transfer, I missed some important files and data. So I moved the
>> > > wireless card from #1 to #2 and #3 is at the router and wired.
>> > >
>> > > Logging into the router from either machine I can see the DHCP client
>> list
>> > > including both machines. I can browse the internet from either
> machine.
>> > > In networking the hardware plus TCP/IP is installed along with MS
>> network
>> > > and sharing.
>> > > From #2 I can find #3 and map drives, but exploring the network shows
> me
>> > the
>> > > workgroup and #2 only.
>> > > #3 can not find #2. Double clicking the Entire network gives error
>> cannot
>> > > browse the network, I think, and sometimes it will show the workgroup
>> with
>> > > #3 machine.
>> > > May have nothing to do with it, but it doesn't seem correct. Group
>> > > and
>> > name
>> > > were entered in lower case. On #3, the SE machine, when allow all
> upper
>> > case
>> > > is checked that is what it does, or rather converts it to all upper
>> case.
>> > > Unchecked, it capitalizes the first letter. On ME, it shows me what I
>> > typed.
>> > > Also running the troubleshooter from ME, it keeps nagging me that I
>> might
>> > > have duplicated that name or it is already in use. Something like
> that.
>> > > I apparently have some issue with the troubleshooter on SE. Choosing
> any
>> > of
>> > > the statements under networking trouble shooter and clicking next
> gives
>> a
>> > > blank page.
>> > > I've read until I think I need an eye doctor and a hand full of
> aspirin.
>> > > Please Help.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Norman
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

That initially helped. But as you can see I'm back. but persuing other
problems at the moment. Think something went wrong with the reinstall of ZAP
maybe. It doesn't seem to be automatically detecting the network.

Thanks.

"Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> wow what fun :>
>
> uninstall ZAP while troubleshooting ...even disabled it interferes
> sometimes..
>
> master browser selection would be a fight that ME would probably
win....but
> a thing to remember is that it 'may' take up to 15 minutes for the network
> to populate (before you can see anything)
>
>
> "E_Net_Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > ZA, ZAP actually. Even though I had it so nothing would load on startup,
> > something must have been. I reset all the check marks, rebooted, and
> > created
> > a range of ip's for my internal net and violla. I'm so exhausted I can
> > barely believe my eyes. I guess I'll try the defaults for lmannounce and
> > browse master.
> > Think back, when I did the hardwire that was one of the first reactions.
> > ZAP
> > wanted an OK on the new network. I can only wonder why it wasn't
nagging
> > me
> > about one now?
> >
> >
> > GOK
> > God Only Knows
> > diagnosis by a doctor to a friend.
> > Norman
> >
> >
> > "E_Net_Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Still letting the router auto assign, etc. as I've had know reason to
> >> believe that wasn't working as I'm able to browse the net from either
> >> machine. BUT, I'm now beginning to believe anything is possible.
> >> Against
> >> what seems to be 95% of the advice I've found for browse master and LM
> >> announce, I've set the ME to enable and yes. I now have full access to
SE
> > on
> >> machine 3. And I can do a find and it shows #2, but clicking gives an
> > error
> >> is not available. Could not be found. And the more I look, it seems
this
> >> networking issue seems to extend across several platforms including XP.
> >> Can someone help,pleasse
> >> Norman
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "E_Net_Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Update.
> >> > I ran net diag.
> >> > SE acting as server, the ME machine says OK.
> >> > Running from ME, SE can't see the other.
> >> >
> >> > I have Zone Alarm 5.5 on the ME machine. I've seen where there had
been
> >> some
> >> > complaints about ZA interferring and having to remove it. ZA site
says
> > it
> >> > was fixed after 5.01. Also I shut it totally down, I think through
> > editing
> >> > the Startup. Your thoughts appreciated.
> >> > Does anyone know the proper setting for browse master and LanManager
> >> > Announce for my current situation. Currently at Auto and No.
> >> > Norman
> >> >
> >> > "E_Net_Rider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > > Background:
> >> > > I'm running a router with one computer connected via cable and the
> > other
> >> > via
> >> > > wireless card. #1 machine had the wireless running W98 and #2 was
> >> running
> >> > > ME. All was fine until the attacks from the internet got so bad
that
> >> the
> >> > > extra software running to provide security nearly brought #2 to a
> > snail
> >> > pace
> >> > > which was unsat for some of the apps I was running on it. Enter new
> >> > machine
> >> > > #3. I put it together and in part to stay legal since I had an
extra
> > OS
> >> > > laying around I chose to install it. Also there has been much
> > discussion
> >> > > that SE was better than ME and so I purchased it a long time ago,
but
> >> > never
> >> > > went through the pain of wiping everything from #2 to do so. Also
> > didn't
> >> > > want to kill the current configuration on it until I was sure this
> >> > > new
> >> box
> >> > > #3 was OK. So SE is installed on #3. It does seems that SE might be
a
> >> > little
> >> > > old for this new hardware although it came with SE drivers. There
was
> >> much
> >> > > on #2 HDD that I wanted transferred to #3. #2 was getting pretty
full
> >> even
> >> > > at 40GB with data and downloaded updates, games, etc. Because of
that
> >> > > condition everthing was no longer ending up in my primary storage
> > area.
> >> > And
> >> > > when I temporarily piled everything around my router so I could
> >> accomplish
> >> > > the transfer, I missed some important files and data. So I moved
the
> >> > > wireless card from #1 to #2 and #3 is at the router and wired.
> >> > >
> >> > > Logging into the router from either machine I can see the DHCP
client
> >> list
> >> > > including both machines. I can browse the internet from either
> > machine.
> >> > > In networking the hardware plus TCP/IP is installed along with MS
> >> network
> >> > > and sharing.
> >> > > From #2 I can find #3 and map drives, but exploring the network
shows
> > me
> >> > the
> >> > > workgroup and #2 only.
> >> > > #3 can not find #2. Double clicking the Entire network gives error
> >> cannot
> >> > > browse the network, I think, and sometimes it will show the
workgroup
> >> with
> >> > > #3 machine.
> >> > > May have nothing to do with it, but it doesn't seem correct. Group
> >> > > and
> >> > name
> >> > > were entered in lower case. On #3, the SE machine, when allow all
> > upper
> >> > case
> >> > > is checked that is what it does, or rather converts it to all upper
> >> case.
> >> > > Unchecked, it capitalizes the first letter. On ME, it shows me what
I
> >> > typed.
> >> > > Also running the troubleshooter from ME, it keeps nagging me that I
> >> might
> >> > > have duplicated that name or it is already in use. Something like
> > that.
> >> > > I apparently have some issue with the troubleshooter on SE.
Choosing
> > any
> >> > of
> >> > > the statements under networking trouble shooter and clicking next
> > gives
> >> a
> >> > > blank page.
> >> > > I've read until I think I need an eye doctor and a hand full of
> > aspirin.
> >> > > Please Help.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Norman
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>