Master Browsr - Network Places isn't updating

Anyone know what i can do to get "My Network Places" updated properly? I
look in WINS and all seems to be there but under My network places a bunch
of stuff is missing.

I have set my master browser as the pdc. It is a windows 2003 domain with 2
wins and 2 dns servers.

You may want to use browstat to troubleshooting.

Computer Browser How to check Browser status The browser was unable to retrieve a list of servers from the browser master How can I check my Master Browsers ...
www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Jake" <none> wrote in message news:Xns96F9A42209806kvfletchhotmailcom@207.46.248 .16...
Anyone know what i can do to get "My Network Places" updated properly? I
look in WINS and all seems to be there but under My network places a bunch
of stuff is missing.

I have set my master browser as the pdc. It is a windows 2003 domain with 2
wins and 2 dns servers.

Also look at KB188305 "Troubleshooting the Computer Browser Service"
..

Robert L [MS-MVP] wrote:
> You may want to use browstat to troubleshooting.
>
> Computer Browser How to check Browser status The browser was unable
> to retrieve a list of servers from the browser master How can I check
> my Master Browsers ...
> www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm
>
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Jake" <none> wrote in message
> news:Xns96F9A42209806kvfletchhotmailcom@207.46.248 .16...
> Anyone know what i can do to get "My Network Places" updated
> properly? I
> look in WINS and all seems to be there but under My network places
> a bunch
> of stuff is missing.
>
> I have set my master browser as the pdc. It is a windows 2003
> domain with 2
> wins and 2 dns servers.

I have read that doc but I don't know what to do after this, I have done
these thins
Thanks, I know I do have some machines that are promoting themselves.
What I have done so far is to disable the computer browser service on all
the member servers but a couple that I am fine with being backup browsers.
I set the ISDOMAINMASTER reg key on the dc with the pdc emulator role to
TRUE and on the others I set them to false. I believe I have to set that to
AUTO though?
Now what about the issues with clients promoting themselves, how can I fix
that? I have read on another post disabling the browser service on
laptops/desktops users machines will break my network places.
What about the WINS record for master browser, I noticed one but it wasn't
correct so I deleted one but I don't know how to create a new one.
"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Also look at KB188305 "Troubleshooting the Computer Browser Service"
> .
>
> Robert L [MS-MVP] wrote:
>> You may want to use browstat to troubleshooting.
>>
>> Computer Browser How to check Browser status The browser was unable
>> to retrieve a list of servers from the browser master How can I check
>> my Master Browsers ...
>> www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm
>>
>>
>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>> "Jake" <none> wrote in message
>> news:Xns96F9A42209806kvfletchhotmailcom@207.46.248 .16...
>> Anyone know what i can do to get "My Network Places" updated
>> properly? I
>> look in WINS and all seems to be there but under My network places
>> a bunch
>> of stuff is missing.
>>
>> I have set my master browser as the pdc. It is a windows 2003
>> domain with 2
>> wins and 2 dns servers.
>
>

No, disabling the computer browser service on workstations will not stop
them from browsing. That service is only involved with electing master
browsers. On my home network, the computer browser service is disabled on
all machines except one. Because they are all XPs, I was having problems
with browser elections when machines started and stopped. Now browsing only
fails if that particular machine is off. Browser elections are a pain.

If you have ISDOMAINMASTER set to FALSE on all servers except the PDC
but you have the computer browser service running on your workstations, some
of the workstations will become at least backup browsers. There is usually a
backup browser for each 32 workstations. You would be better off having the
servers set to AUTO and have the browser service stopped on the
workstations. Avoid running the browser service on servers which are
multihomed or RRAS servers if you can.

The entries in WINS for the master browser are added automatically, but
"wrong" entries can hang around for a while.

Have you any idea what is setting off the browser elections? Browsing is
usually pretty stable if the servers are always up.

MSNews wrote:
> I have read that doc but I don't know what to do after this, I have
> done these thins
> Thanks, I know I do have some machines that are promoting themselves.
> What I have done so far is to disable the computer browser service on
> all the member servers but a couple that I am fine with being backup
> browsers. I set the ISDOMAINMASTER reg key on the dc with the pdc
> emulator role to TRUE and on the others I set them to false. I
> believe I have to set that to AUTO though?
> Now what about the issues with clients promoting themselves, how can
> I fix that? I have read on another post disabling the browser
> service on laptops/desktops users machines will break my network
> places. What about the WINS record for master browser, I noticed one but
> it
> wasn't correct so I deleted one but I don't know how to create a new
> one. "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Also look at KB188305 "Troubleshooting the Computer Browser
>> Service" .
>>
>> Robert L [MS-MVP] wrote:
>>> You may want to use browstat to troubleshooting.
>>>
>>> Computer Browser How to check Browser status The browser was unable
>>> to retrieve a list of servers from the browser master How can I
>>> check my Master Browsers ...
>>> www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>>> "Jake" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns96F9A42209806kvfletchhotmailcom@207.46.248 .16...
>>> Anyone know what i can do to get "My Network Places" updated
>>> properly? I
>>> look in WINS and all seems to be there but under My network places
>>> a bunch
>>> of stuff is missing.
>>>
>>> I have set my master browser as the pdc. It is a windows 2003
>>> domain with 2
>>> wins and 2 dns servers.

The Bible to understand browsing concepts :

www.microsoft.com/ntserver/docs/ntbrowse.doc

Browsing is different of NBNS Server (WINS), is different in domain
context and is different in routed network context.

Give us more details about your architecture or read carefully this doc
;-)

I have a Windows 2003 domain. There are 4 sites. 2dc's at one of the sites
with 1 of them running dns and wins, then another wins and dns box as well,
2 dcs at this main site where I reside - these dc's hold all of the master
roles and with that - 1 of them holds all roles except the infrastructure
master which is on the 2nd dc at this site which is also a wins and dns
server.
We have many subnets at this site but i am only concerned with 2 primarily.
We use a firewall but authentication is done from a MS RRAS server. That
server is on another subnet, so total I have 3 subnets I am worried about.
They are .10, .11. and .12
I have one dc here on .10, the other on .11
I then have no idea why I am having xp machines promote themselves and I
don't know where to look further as i have looked everywhere.

Then there are 2 remote sites - 1 has a dc and the other does not have any
wins, dns, etc.
"totoiste" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> The Bible to understand browsing concepts :
>
> www.microsoft.com/ntserver/docs/ntbrowse.doc
>
> Browsing is different of NBNS Server (WINS), is different in domain
> context and is different in routed network context.
>
> Give us more details about your architecture or read carefully this doc
> ;-)
>

Do you see a different browsing list on each subnet ?

Do you see a complete browsing list on your DCs ? if not, begin to
solve that !

Don't Focus WINS or DNS Servers, there are no link with browsing.

You need to analyze :
- Which computers are browseable by subnet ?
- Is there any browseable and no browseable computer on the same
subnet ?

I don't see a full list on the dc that is on one subnet so how do I fix
that?
I also don't see anyone connecting via vpn?
"totoiste" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Do you see a different browsing list on each subnet ?
>
> Do you see a complete browsing list on your DCs ? if not, begin to
> solve that !
>
> Don't Focus WINS or DNS Servers, there are no link with browsing.
>
> You need to analyze :
> - Which computers are browseable by subnet ?
> - Is there any browseable and no browseable computer on the same
> subnet ?
>

You will not see the site which doesn't use WINS. Without WINS, the
Domain Master Browser has no way to find the segment master browser at that
site to add those machines to the network-wide browse list. If it is a
permanently connected site, you can set these machines to register with one
of your existing WINS servers. Are your WINS servers set to replicate?

You will probably never see the VPN clients in the browse list. Browse
lists are built by LAN broadcasts, and these do not cross routers or WAN
links. So VPN clients don't appear in any browse list. If you want to track
VPN clients you would probably be better off setting up a special DNS zone
for remote users and set them to register in that zone. You would then have
a dynamic list of connected VPN users.

The merging of browse lists across routers depends on WINS to resolve
the master browser names to IP addresses. The browser service can then link
the master browsers by IP address and doesn't need to rely on broadcasts.

MSNews wrote:
> I don't see a full list on the dc that is on one subnet so how do I
> fix that?
> I also don't see anyone connecting via vpn?
> "totoiste" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) oups.com...
>> Do you see a different browsing list on each subnet ?
>>
>> Do you see a complete browsing list on your DCs ? if not, begin to
>> solve that !
>>
>> Don't Focus WINS or DNS Servers, there are no link with browsing.
>>
>> You need to analyze :
>> - Which computers are browseable by subnet ?
>> - Is there any browseable and no browseable computer on the same
>> subnet ?