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Roger Payne
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      11-17-2005, 12:52 PM
i have a eastlink 10 meg cable account, right now i have the modem go to my
isa server and it graps a ip from the eastlink dhck pool. what i was told is
that one modem will grab 6 ip without any extra cost if i hook ip a switch
and then 6 computers each computer will get a ip from the eastlink isp dhcp

how can i run a eastlink modem to my one nic on my isa server and pull in 6
ip so i can then puch the ip's out to diffrent computers

my set up now is

eastlink modem(1 ip) --> ISA Server --> 6 port switch --> 6
computers(192.168.1.*
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
what is want is

eastlink modem(6 ip) --> ISA Server --> 6 port switch --> 6 computers
 
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Neteng
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      11-17-2005, 02:40 PM
You really can't with compromising security. Below is what the ISP is
stating will work. I've never heard of an ISP handing out 6 addresses via
DHCP.

eastlink modem(6 ip) --> 6 port switch --> 6 computers

What you could do is get the address space from the ISP, have them disable
DHCP for it, and assign the addresses to your clients. You can then setup
NAT on the ISA server. It's still a bad design because your compromising
security again. Do you really need 6 PC's on the public network? Can you
just NAT with the ISA server and accomplish what you need?


"Roger Payne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:99B9404F-E4AB-43DC-B183-(E-Mail Removed)...
> i have a eastlink 10 meg cable account, right now i have the modem go to

my
> isa server and it graps a ip from the eastlink dhck pool. what i was told

is
> that one modem will grab 6 ip without any extra cost if i hook ip a switch
> and then 6 computers each computer will get a ip from the eastlink isp

dhcp
>
> how can i run a eastlink modem to my one nic on my isa server and pull in

6
> ip so i can then puch the ip's out to diffrent computers
>
> my set up now is
>
> eastlink modem(1 ip) --> ISA Server --> 6 port switch --> 6
> computers(192.168.1.*)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------
> what is want is
>
> eastlink modem(6 ip) --> ISA Server --> 6 port switch --> 6 computers



 
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Roger Payne
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      11-17-2005, 03:00 PM
th ething is they wont hand out static address, i work for them

if you have a switch going to 6 computers every computer will grap a ip from
the isp

if i put 6 nics in my isa server and use routing will this work?? how fast
of a machine will i need,

i have a xp 1600+ 512M

"Neteng" wrote:

> You really can't with compromising security. Below is what the ISP is
> stating will work. I've never heard of an ISP handing out 6 addresses via
> DHCP.
>
> eastlink modem(6 ip) --> 6 port switch --> 6 computers
>
> What you could do is get the address space from the ISP, have them disable
> DHCP for it, and assign the addresses to your clients. You can then setup
> NAT on the ISA server. It's still a bad design because your compromising
> security again. Do you really need 6 PC's on the public network? Can you
> just NAT with the ISA server and accomplish what you need?
>
>
> "Roger Payne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:99B9404F-E4AB-43DC-B183-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > i have a eastlink 10 meg cable account, right now i have the modem go to

> my
> > isa server and it graps a ip from the eastlink dhck pool. what i was told

> is
> > that one modem will grab 6 ip without any extra cost if i hook ip a switch
> > and then 6 computers each computer will get a ip from the eastlink isp

> dhcp
> >
> > how can i run a eastlink modem to my one nic on my isa server and pull in

> 6
> > ip so i can then puch the ip's out to diffrent computers
> >
> > my set up now is
> >
> > eastlink modem(1 ip) --> ISA Server --> 6 port switch --> 6
> > computers(192.168.1.*)
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------

> ------------
> > what is want is
> >
> > eastlink modem(6 ip) --> ISA Server --> 6 port switch --> 6 computers

>
>
>

 
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Neteng
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      11-17-2005, 03:53 PM
There is no reason to do that. What are you trying to accomplish? Are you
hosting multiple websites/SMTP/DNS/etc? Why do you need 6 addresses? If you
need your clients to have internet access, you need only one address and you
can PAT.

"Roger Payne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:93150D65-E56C-49A7-BC1D-(E-Mail Removed)...
> th ething is they wont hand out static address, i work for them
>
> if you have a switch going to 6 computers every computer will grap a ip

from
> the isp
>
> if i put 6 nics in my isa server and use routing will this work?? how fast
> of a machine will i need,
>
> i have a xp 1600+ 512M
>
> "Neteng" wrote:
>
> > You really can't with compromising security. Below is what the ISP is
> > stating will work. I've never heard of an ISP handing out 6 addresses

via
> > DHCP.
> >
> > eastlink modem(6 ip) --> 6 port switch --> 6 computers
> >
> > What you could do is get the address space from the ISP, have them

disable
> > DHCP for it, and assign the addresses to your clients. You can then

setup
> > NAT on the ISA server. It's still a bad design because your compromising
> > security again. Do you really need 6 PC's on the public network? Can you
> > just NAT with the ISA server and accomplish what you need?
> >
> >
> > "Roger Payne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:99B9404F-E4AB-43DC-B183-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > i have a eastlink 10 meg cable account, right now i have the modem go

to
> > my
> > > isa server and it graps a ip from the eastlink dhck pool. what i was

told
> > is
> > > that one modem will grab 6 ip without any extra cost if i hook ip a

switch
> > > and then 6 computers each computer will get a ip from the eastlink isp

> > dhcp
> > >
> > > how can i run a eastlink modem to my one nic on my isa server and pull

in
> > 6
> > > ip so i can then puch the ip's out to diffrent computers
> > >
> > > my set up now is
> > >
> > > eastlink modem(1 ip) --> ISA Server --> 6 port switch --> 6
> > > computers(192.168.1.*)

> >

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ------------
> > > what is want is
> > >
> > > eastlink modem(6 ip) --> ISA Server --> 6 port switch --> 6

computers
> >
> >
> >



 
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Roger Payne
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      11-17-2005, 04:39 PM
Yeah the deal here is that each client on the inside of the ISA Server is
hosting specific services, each service has the same port so NAT will not
work properly.

So what I want to do is assign each client on the inside a public ip address
so that we don't have to use NAT its just stright through with one computer
acting as a firewall, so an interal ip eg. 192.168.0.2 would be routed to an
external ip 24.xxx.xxx.xxx and all traffic from that internal client would
show up with that external IP, with this you wouldn't have to have multiple
network adapters, and only have to have one ISA server computer to enact the
other rules that are in place.

Hope this makes sense, the ISP is just assigning the address via DHCP so I
was hoping there was a way to grab multiple leases from the ISPs DHCP server
and have them all on the one adapter.

"Neteng" wrote:

> There is no reason to do that. What are you trying to accomplish? Are you
> hosting multiple websites/SMTP/DNS/etc? Why do you need 6 addresses? If you
> need your clients to have internet access, you need only one address and you
> can PAT.
>
> "Roger Payne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:93150D65-E56C-49A7-BC1D-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > th ething is they wont hand out static address, i work for them
> >
> > if you have a switch going to 6 computers every computer will grap a ip

> from
> > the isp
> >
> > if i put 6 nics in my isa server and use routing will this work?? how fast
> > of a machine will i need,
> >
> > i have a xp 1600+ 512M
> >
> > "Neteng" wrote:
> >
> > > You really can't with compromising security. Below is what the ISP is
> > > stating will work. I've never heard of an ISP handing out 6 addresses

> via
> > > DHCP.
> > >
> > > eastlink modem(6 ip) --> 6 port switch --> 6 computers
> > >
> > > What you could do is get the address space from the ISP, have them

> disable
> > > DHCP for it, and assign the addresses to your clients. You can then

> setup
> > > NAT on the ISA server. It's still a bad design because your compromising
> > > security again. Do you really need 6 PC's on the public network? Can you
> > > just NAT with the ISA server and accomplish what you need?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Roger Payne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:99B9404F-E4AB-43DC-B183-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > i have a eastlink 10 meg cable account, right now i have the modem go

> to
> > > my
> > > > isa server and it graps a ip from the eastlink dhck pool. what i was

> told
> > > is
> > > > that one modem will grab 6 ip without any extra cost if i hook ip a

> switch
> > > > and then 6 computers each computer will get a ip from the eastlink isp
> > > dhcp
> > > >
> > > > how can i run a eastlink modem to my one nic on my isa server and pull

> in
> > > 6
> > > > ip so i can then puch the ip's out to diffrent computers
> > > >
> > > > my set up now is
> > > >
> > > > eastlink modem(1 ip) --> ISA Server --> 6 port switch --> 6
> > > > computers(192.168.1.*)
> > >

> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ------------
> > > > what is want is
> > > >
> > > > eastlink modem(6 ip) --> ISA Server --> 6 port switch --> 6

> computers
> > >
> > >
> > >

>
>
>

 
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Neteng
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      11-17-2005, 04:45 PM
OK, but how do you differentiate the host with the service it provides? If
server A is hosting DNS, tomorrow it will get a different IP from the ISP
and anyone using that service on the IP from yesterday will no longer work
today. Your ISP should not care if you use DHCP or static, actually I've
never heard of an ISP using DHCP with more than a single IP. Tell them you
need static, they should understand since it's normal operation.


"Roger Payne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:6CFB34E2-F851-448C-9E0B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yeah the deal here is that each client on the inside of the ISA Server is
> hosting specific services, each service has the same port so NAT will not
> work properly.
>
> So what I want to do is assign each client on the inside a public ip

address
> so that we don't have to use NAT its just stright through with one

computer
> acting as a firewall, so an interal ip eg. 192.168.0.2 would be routed to

an
> external ip 24.xxx.xxx.xxx and all traffic from that internal client would
> show up with that external IP, with this you wouldn't have to have

multiple
> network adapters, and only have to have one ISA server computer to enact

the
> other rules that are in place.
>
> Hope this makes sense, the ISP is just assigning the address via DHCP so I
> was hoping there was a way to grab multiple leases from the ISPs DHCP

server
> and have them all on the one adapter.
>
> "Neteng" wrote:
>
> > There is no reason to do that. What are you trying to accomplish? Are

you
> > hosting multiple websites/SMTP/DNS/etc? Why do you need 6 addresses? If

you
> > need your clients to have internet access, you need only one address and

you
> > can PAT.
> >
> > "Roger Payne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:93150D65-E56C-49A7-BC1D-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > th ething is they wont hand out static address, i work for them
> > >
> > > if you have a switch going to 6 computers every computer will grap a

ip
> > from
> > > the isp
> > >
> > > if i put 6 nics in my isa server and use routing will this work?? how

fast
> > > of a machine will i need,
> > >
> > > i have a xp 1600+ 512M
> > >
> > > "Neteng" wrote:
> > >
> > > > You really can't with compromising security. Below is what the ISP

is
> > > > stating will work. I've never heard of an ISP handing out 6

addresses
> > via
> > > > DHCP.
> > > >
> > > > eastlink modem(6 ip) --> 6 port switch --> 6 computers
> > > >
> > > > What you could do is get the address space from the ISP, have them

> > disable
> > > > DHCP for it, and assign the addresses to your clients. You can then

> > setup
> > > > NAT on the ISA server. It's still a bad design because your

compromising
> > > > security again. Do you really need 6 PC's on the public network? Can

you
> > > > just NAT with the ISA server and accomplish what you need?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Roger Payne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:99B9404F-E4AB-43DC-B183-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > i have a eastlink 10 meg cable account, right now i have the modem

go
> > to
> > > > my
> > > > > isa server and it graps a ip from the eastlink dhck pool. what i

was
> > told
> > > > is
> > > > > that one modem will grab 6 ip without any extra cost if i hook ip

a
> > switch
> > > > > and then 6 computers each computer will get a ip from the eastlink

isp
> > > > dhcp
> > > > >
> > > > > how can i run a eastlink modem to my one nic on my isa server and

pull
> > in
> > > > 6
> > > > > ip so i can then puch the ip's out to diffrent computers
> > > > >
> > > > > my set up now is
> > > > >
> > > > > eastlink modem(1 ip) --> ISA Server --> 6 port switch --> 6
> > > > > computers(192.168.1.*)
> > > >

> >

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ------------
> > > > > what is want is
> > > > >
> > > > > eastlink modem(6 ip) --> ISA Server --> 6 port switch --> 6

> > computers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> >
> >
> >



 
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