Making calls across my broadband connection

How can I use my always on broadband connection to make telephone calls so
as not to incur the charges that come from BT?

I've seen one or two black boxes which cost quite a bit, any other cheaper
DIY way guys?

BE

If your just wanting to talk with some one else who has BB access or dial up
for that matter try SKYPE @ www.skype.com its a sort of online telephone
system using your Mic, quality of audio is excellent I speak to a guy in
France and another in Florida with it, its better than a land line to
Florida as there is no lag.

It may suite your needs

Paul
"Brian Woodward" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> How can I use my always on broadband connection to make telephone calls so
> as not to incur the charges that come from BT?
>
> I've seen one or two black boxes which cost quite a bit, any other cheaper
> DIY way guys?
>
> BE
>
>
>

Hi

Who do you want to call? if its family and freinds then Free world dial is
the way forward its a SIP service, Good quality and has voicemail as well
its totally free as is the Xten softphone or you can by a SIP phone for
about £60.

Ian

"Brian Woodward" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> How can I use my always on broadband connection to make telephone calls so
> as not to incur the charges that come from BT?
>
> I've seen one or two black boxes which cost quite a bit, any other cheaper
> DIY way guys?
>
> BE
>
>

cyber-co <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Who do you want to call? if its family and freinds then Free world dial is
> the way forward its a SIP service, Good quality and has voicemail as well
> its totally free as is the Xten softphone or you can by a SIP phone for
> about ?60.

I'm still wanting a provider that provides a nice simple
internet phone line, with a UK phone number that acts like a
normal phoneline when called from a ordinary phone (with divert on
to voicemail on no answer or insufficiant bandwidth) and lets me make
outgoing calls at a few p/min.

I want something I can use to call someone in the yellow pages, or whatever...

"Ian Stirling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> cyber-co <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Who do you want to call? if its family and freinds then Free world dial
is
> > the way forward its a SIP service, Good quality and has voicemail as
well
> > its totally free as is the Xten softphone or you can by a SIP phone for
> > about ?60.
>
> I'm still wanting a provider that provides a nice simple
> internet phone line, with a UK phone number that acts like a
> normal phoneline when called from a ordinary phone (with divert on
> to voicemail on no answer or insufficiant bandwidth) and lets me make
> outgoing calls at a few p/min.
>
> I want something I can use to call someone in the yellow pages, or
whatever...
>
FWIW both BT and NTL have looked into this and it got nowhere.
This type of service has taken of in the US mainly due to them being behind
the UK in technological terms.
Pricing is already very competitive in the UK that a VOIP system has
problems compeating, and as much international traffic already is IP based
there is no saving there.

Free world dial can be called from a UK landline via an 0845 and you can
call uk 0800's from it it also suports webcalls. Due to the cost overheads
of providing a billing platform, it is not cost effictive to allow any other
type of call.

You could build yourself an Asterix PBX with FXS/FXO interfaces or get a
cisco box.and do it yourself then launch the service for everyone else.

Ian

Ian Stirling <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>cyber-co <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Who do you want to call? if its family and freinds then Free world dial is
>> the way forward its a SIP service, Good quality and has voicemail as well
>> its totally free as is the Xten softphone or you can by a SIP phone for
>> about ?60.
>
>I'm still wanting a provider that provides a nice simple
>internet phone line, with a UK phone number that acts like a
>normal phoneline when called from a ordinary phone (with divert on
>to voicemail on no answer or insufficiant bandwidth) and lets me make
>outgoing calls at a few p/min.

Not quite what you are after, but if you get a FWD number you can always get a
0870 number pointed to it at http://www.xtraphone.com/fwd (We run a number of
gateway services, and this is just one of them)

Linus

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Phonecards,Number Translation,IVR, Premium Rate & BT interconnect switches too!
See us at: www.uknumber.co.uk www.magrathea-telecom.co.uk www.callthrough.co.uk
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>I'm still wanting a provider that provides a nice simple
>internet phone line, with a UK phone number that acts like a
>normal phoneline when called from a ordinary phone (with divert on
>to voicemail on no answer or insufficiant bandwidth) and lets me make
>outgoing calls at a few p/min.

Being able to call out via UK based / £ charged net VOIP to phone service
would be a great start.

Linus,
didn't you experiment with something like that ?
Regards,
Martin

"cyber-co" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> > I'm still wanting a provider that provides a nice simple
> > internet phone line, with a UK phone number that acts like a
> > normal phoneline when called from a ordinary phone (with divert on
> > to voicemail on no answer or insufficiant bandwidth) and lets me make
> > outgoing calls at a few p/min.
> >
> > I want something I can use to call someone in the yellow pages, or
> whatever...
> >
> FWIW both BT and NTL have looked into this and it got nowhere.
> This type of service has taken of in the US mainly due to them being
behind
> the UK in technological terms.
> Pricing is already very competitive in the UK that a VOIP system has
> problems compeating, and as much international traffic already is IP based
> there is no saving there.

US behind the UK? Never???

Anyway you better tell Dataflex (www.dataflex.com) that they are wasting
their time then.

Oh, what about the case for multiple lines (e.g. SOHO with one line for
residential, one line for office, one line for fax, etc), couldn't they
benefit with a multiple number system using just one ADSL line (assuming
this could be reached from any PSTN number via a decent gateway)?

Hi,

We are offering a range of UK based PSTN <> VoIP services. These
route inbound calls from PSTN to SIP delivery points and allow
outbound calls to PSTN to be presented with correct CLI.

"Call UK - make and receive calls - as if you are in UK!"

Please contact us for further details.


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pstn:+441280761600
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"Martin²" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<n__mb.1234$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> >I'm still wanting a provider that provides a nice simple
> >internet phone line, with a UK phone number that acts like a
> >normal phoneline when called from a ordinary phone (with divert on
> >to voicemail on no answer or insufficiant bandwidth) and lets me make
> >outgoing calls at a few p/min.
>
> Being able to call out via UK based / £ charged net VOIP to phone service
> would be a great start.
>

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:16:25 +0100, "Brian Woodward"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>How can I use my always on broadband connection to make telephone calls so
>as not to incur the charges that come from BT?
>
>I've seen one or two black boxes which cost quite a bit, any other cheaper
>DIY way guys?


maybe jou should look into this
http://www.411-netphone.com/#

i am calling with callserve ...but i was wondering if somebody uses
the Cisco ATA186 Gateway that they sell in combination with
broeadband.
http://www.callserve.com/Homepage.asp
gr
roger belgium