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Johann Höchtl
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      07-21-2006, 09:01 AM
Hello!

I would like to make a HP Laserjet 3330 using an "USB print server"
available for my Laptop using ubuntu dapper drake. I have not yet
attached any printer to my laptop or the network. I think Ubuntu uses
cups as the printing system but it also loads some specialised hp
printing system upon startup.

how do i have to proceed?

Regards,
Johann
 
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Unruh
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      07-21-2006, 04:11 PM
=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Johann_H=F6chtl?= <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

>Hello!


>I would like to make a HP Laserjet 3330 using an "USB print server"
>available for my Laptop using ubuntu dapper drake. I have not yet
>attached any printer to my laptop or the network. I think Ubuntu uses
>cups as the printing system but it also loads some specialised hp
>printing system upon startup.


Available how? Do you want the printer plugged into your laptop? Is the
pritner connected to another computer on a network the laptop will be on?
Do you want to put stuff on CD and carry it to the printer?
Is the printer USB or does it have a network card in it?



>how do i have to proceed?


Install cups, plug in the printer, configure cups, and print.

The biggest problem is that cups does not recover from unplugging the
printer well. It finds out that the printer is no longer there, and then
premanantly disables it in the /etc/cups/printers.conf file, so that even
if it then plugged in again it is not recognized or even looked for.
Eitehr go into printers.conf and remove the "Status..." lines or reinstall
the printer.
 
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      07-22-2006, 12:40 AM
Unruh wrote:
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> The biggest problem is that cups does not recover from unplugging the
> printer well. It finds out that the printer is no longer there, and then
> premanantly disables it in the /etc/cups/printers.conf file, so that even
> if it then plugged in again it is not recognized or even looked for.
> Eitehr go into printers.conf and remove the "Status..." lines or reinstall
> the printer.


Thanks, William

By chance you answered a problem that has been bugging me at work for
months.

At my work, every time they have to take the network down for whatever
reason, I end up reinstalling the printer - now I understand why.

For info:
FC3 2.6.12-2.3.legacy_FC3
Jet-Direct printing to a Ricoh printer/photocopier/scanner - don't have
the model number to hand.

Regards,
Steve
 
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      07-22-2006, 12:50 AM
SadOldGit <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

>Unruh wrote:
>[snip]
>> The biggest problem is that cups does not recover from unplugging the
>> printer well. It finds out that the printer is no longer there, and then
>> premanantly disables it in the /etc/cups/printers.conf file, so that even
>> if it then plugged in again it is not recognized or even looked for.
>> Eitehr go into printers.conf and remove the "Status..." lines or reinstall
>> the printer.


>Thanks, William


>By chance you answered a problem that has been bugging me at work for
>months.


>At my work, every time they have to take the network down for whatever
>reason, I end up reinstalling the printer - now I understand why.


IF it is a directly connected printer then that is a problem. If it is a
printer which your system gets from another computer's broadcast, then it
is not the problem

If you go into /etc/cups/printers.conf, you will see a line in red,
StatusDescription or something and it will say that the printer is not
connected. Remove that line. Then the next line will say something like
Status offline
Change that to
Status idle.

and suddenly the printer works. At least mine does (it is a usb connected
printer). Why in the world the system does not check periodically for the
usb printer to be connected again, I have no idea. A long standing bug I
think.

(I had the same problem a few years ago).


>For info:
>FC3 2.6.12-2.3.legacy_FC3
>Jet-Direct printing to a Ricoh printer/photocopier/scanner - don't have
>the model number to hand.


>Regards,
>Steve

 
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Johann Höchtl
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      07-24-2006, 09:14 AM
Unruh schrieb:
> =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Johann_H=F6chtl?= <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>
>> Hello!

>
>> I would like to make a HP Laserjet 3330 using an "USB print server"
>> available for my Laptop using ubuntu dapper drake. I have not yet
>> attached any printer to my laptop or the network. I think Ubuntu uses
>> cups as the printing system but it also loads some specialised hp
>> printing system upon startup.

>
> Available how? Do you want the printer plugged into your laptop? Is the
> pritner connected to another computer on a network the laptop will be on?
> Do you want to put stuff on CD and carry it to the printer?
> Is the printer USB or does it have a network card in it?
>
>

The printer is USB and i would like to make it available for me and
other users using an USB print server which connects to the network
using ethernet wire. So no, the printer will not be connected to a
computer acting as a dedicated print server (and thus will have no
centralized print queue)
>
>> how do i have to proceed?

>
> Install cups, plug in the printer, configure cups, and print.
>
> The biggest problem is that cups does not recover from unplugging the
> printer well. It finds out that the printer is no longer there, and then
> premanantly disables it in the /etc/cups/printers.conf file, so that even
> if it then plugged in again it is not recognized or even looked for.
> Eitehr go into printers.conf and remove the "Status..." lines or reinstall
> the printer.

 
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David Efflandt
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      07-24-2006, 03:21 PM
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, Johann Höchtl <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Unruh schrieb:
>> =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Johann_H=F6chtl?= <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>>
>>> I would like to make a HP Laserjet 3330 using an "USB print server"
>>> available for my Laptop using ubuntu dapper drake. I have not yet
>>> attached any printer to my laptop or the network. I think Ubuntu uses
>>> cups as the printing system but it also loads some specialised hp
>>> printing system upon startup.

>>
>> Available how? Do you want the printer plugged into your laptop? Is the
>> pritner connected to another computer on a network the laptop will be on?
>> Do you want to put stuff on CD and carry it to the printer?
>> Is the printer USB or does it have a network card in it?
>>
>>

> The printer is USB and i would like to make it available for me and
> other users using an USB print server which connects to the network
> using ethernet wire. So no, the printer will not be connected to a
> computer acting as a dedicated print server (and thus will have no
> centralized print queue)
>>
>>> how do i have to proceed?


Most print servers are capable of LPR/LPD printing, if nothing else, and
cups is capable of communicating with those. For example my Linksys
switch/printserver has a logical queue for its first printer called "L1",
and its hostname "netprn" is in my local DNS, so its cups DeviceURI is:

lpd://netprn/L1

If you got a JetDirect server (like 175x), I am not sure how to
specifically have it connect as JetDirect, but assuming it has static or
stable IP, it should work as a LPD device as:

lpd://ip_address/auto
(it also has queues called: raw, text, or bin)

For other print servers you may need to know their queue name, although,
default queue may work if queue name used is not recognized.
 
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Johann Höchtl
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      07-28-2006, 06:53 AM
David Efflandt schrieb:
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, Johann Höchtl <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Unruh schrieb:
>>> =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Johann_H=F6chtl?= <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>>>
>>>> I would like to make a HP Laserjet 3330 using an "USB print server"
>>>> available for my Laptop using ubuntu dapper drake. I have not yet
>>>> attached any printer to my laptop or the network. I think Ubuntu uses
>>>> cups as the printing system but it also loads some specialised hp
>>>> printing system upon startup.
>>> Available how? Do you want the printer plugged into your laptop? Is the
>>> pritner connected to another computer on a network the laptop will be on?
>>> Do you want to put stuff on CD and carry it to the printer?
>>> Is the printer USB or does it have a network card in it?
>>>
>>>

>> The printer is USB and i would like to make it available for me and
>> other users using an USB print server which connects to the network
>> using ethernet wire. So no, the printer will not be connected to a
>> computer acting as a dedicated print server (and thus will have no
>> centralized print queue)
>>>> how do i have to proceed?

>
> Most print servers are capable of LPR/LPD printing, if nothing else, and
> cups is capable of communicating with those. For example my Linksys
> switch/printserver has a logical queue for its first printer called "L1",
> and its hostname "netprn" is in my local DNS, so its cups DeviceURI is:


Duh, that was easy. My last experience getting a printer ready under
linux was four years back. I was anxious about that task but the web
interface of cups, after fiddling with rights, was a charm to set up the
printer.

Thank you!
 
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