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Greg
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      08-08-2006, 01:32 AM
I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is cable.
When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs down
and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157 kbps
down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any advantage
of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
years old.


 
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      08-08-2006, 03:48 PM

Greg wrote:
> I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is cable.
> When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs down
> and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157 kbps
> down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
> laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any advantage
> of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
> connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
> years old.


The short and simple answer is NO, you have to remember that your cable
modem is limited as well. If you update all your wireless network, you
will still be limited by what your cable company can pull out of your
cable modem. which is probable what your seeing as 3 mpbs, and 512 kps
up. Of course this is dependent on the time of day, and what site your
downloading from. If eveyone on your neighborhood has cable then it
could be even slower.

If your streaming video over your personal network, say from one
computer to the other, without using your cable modem then it might be
worth it. Or if you want WPA2 or more security then it might be worth
the upgrade, but you have to decide on what conditions it will be worth
it to you.

Rthoreau

 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      08-08-2006, 04:06 PM
"Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is cable.
>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs down
>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157 kbps
>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any advantage
>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
>years old.


I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
Something else is wrong.

3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.

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John Navas
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      08-08-2006, 04:46 PM
On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:06:40 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<(E-Mail Removed)>:

>"Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is cable.
>>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs down
>>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157 kbps
>>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any advantage
>>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
>>years old.

>
>I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
>your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
>which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
>Something else is wrong.
>
>3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
>11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
>service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
>eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
>router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
>case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.


Otherwise, if you have two computers, test your computer-to-computer
speed over wireless as described in the How To wiki below, and post the
results here so we have more to go on.

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      08-08-2006, 08:28 PM

"Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is cable.
> When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs
> down
> and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157 kbps
> down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
> laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any
> advantage
> of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
> connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
> years old.


As Jeff said, 802.11g is more than sufficient to carry your internet
connection assuming there is no/little interference going on.

Assuming you are using Windows, what you may want to give a shot at is
tweaking the TCP settings for the wireless card.

Check out "TCP Optimizer"; http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php

Its fairly simple to use but read the FAQs and make a backup of your initial
settings (its in the menu) before applying changes.

"TCP Optimizer" is the first thing I use on Windows computer after
installing wireless drivers and it often makes a huge difference.

Run some speed tests; http://www.broadbandreports.com/stest before and
after....


 
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      08-09-2006, 02:57 AM
You guess I mean DI-524 router? What gave it away? Possibly the fact that I
stated it was a DI524 router at the beginning of my paragraph? The fact that
it delivers at 54Mbps has nothing to do with it. You or I will never
download off the internet at 54Mbps. The fastest you can get is about 30Mbps
with a T3. If I were copying or moving a file on a lan then yes, I could max
out at 54Mbps. And what an eye glass prescription has to do with it I have
no idea.

"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is cable.
>>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs
>>down
>>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157 kbps
>>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any
>>advantage
>>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
>>years old.

>
> I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
> your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
> which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
> Something else is wrong.
>
> 3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
> 11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
> service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
> eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
> router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
> case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.
>
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> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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      08-09-2006, 03:02 AM
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:57:04 -0500, "Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>You guess I mean DI-524 router? What gave it away? Possibly the fact that I
>stated it was a DI524 router at the beginning of my paragraph? [SNIP]


You actually called it "DI525" -- see your own quote below -- and then
"524" at the end of the paragraph. You own Jeff an apology.

>"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> "Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>>
>>>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is cable.
>>>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs
>>>down
>>>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157 kbps
>>>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>>>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any
>>>advantage
>>>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>>>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
>>>years old.

>>
>> I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
>> your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
>> which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
>> Something else is wrong.
>>
>> 3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
>> 11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
>> service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
>> eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
>> router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
>> case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.


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      08-09-2006, 03:06 AM
damn it!!!

Sorry Jeff!! I'm a dumbass. But I still dont know why my eye glass
perscription is at fauilt.


"John Navas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:57:04 -0500, "Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> <2acCg.2901$W01.922@dukeread08>:
>
>>You guess I mean DI-524 router? What gave it away? Possibly the fact that
>>I
>>stated it was a DI524 router at the beginning of my paragraph? [SNIP]

>
> You actually called it "DI525" -- see your own quote below -- and then
> "524" at the end of the paragraph. You own Jeff an apology.
>
>>"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed). ..
>>> "Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>>>
>>>>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is
>>>>cable.
>>>>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs
>>>>down
>>>>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157
>>>>kbps
>>>>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>>>>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any
>>>>advantage
>>>>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>>>>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
>>>>years old.
>>>
>>> I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
>>> your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
>>> which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
>>> Something else is wrong.
>>>
>>> 3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
>>> 11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
>>> service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
>>> eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
>>> router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
>>> case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.

>
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> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
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> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>



 
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      08-09-2006, 03:22 AM
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:06:16 -0500, "Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>damn it!!!
>
>Sorry Jeff!! I'm a dumbass. But I still dont know why my eye glass
>perscription is at fauilt.


Your keyboard seems to need attention as well.

>"John Navas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:57:04 -0500, "Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> <2acCg.2901$W01.922@dukeread08>:
>>
>>>You guess I mean DI-524 router? What gave it away? Possibly the fact that
>>>I
>>>stated it was a DI524 router at the beginning of my paragraph? [SNIP]

>>
>> You actually called it "DI525" -- see your own quote below -- and then
>> "524" at the end of the paragraph. You own Jeff an apology.
>>
>>>"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>news:(E-Mail Removed) ...
>>>> "Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>>>>
>>>>>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is
>>>>>cable.
>>>>>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs
>>>>>down
>>>>>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157
>>>>>kbps
>>>>>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>>>>>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any
>>>>>advantage
>>>>>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>>>>>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
>>>>>years old.
>>>>
>>>> I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
>>>> your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
>>>> which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
>>>> Something else is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> 3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
>>>> 11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
>>>> service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
>>>> eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
>>>> router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
>>>> case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.

>>
>> --
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>> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
>> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
>> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

>


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      08-09-2006, 04:09 AM
Nah. Laptop. I can't type to save my life on this thing.

Seriously though. Is it just simply interference that is causing me to loose
about 1 Mgbps? I just did a bandwidth speed test on speakeasy and got 3.6
Mbps down. If I connect to the router directly instead of connecting via
wireless, I will get upwards of 4.3 Mbps. Not that it really matters. It is
fast enough for me. I am just wondering why more than anything.

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> <GicCg.2902$W01.1137@dukeread08>:
>
>>damn it!!!
>>
>>Sorry Jeff!! I'm a dumbass. But I still dont know why my eye glass
>>perscription is at fauilt.

>
> Your keyboard seems to need attention as well.
>
>>"John Navas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed). ..
>>> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:57:04 -0500, "Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>>> <2acCg.2901$W01.922@dukeread08>:
>>>
>>>>You guess I mean DI-524 router? What gave it away? Possibly the fact
>>>>that
>>>>I
>>>>stated it was a DI524 router at the beginning of my paragraph? [SNIP]
>>>
>>> You actually called it "DI525" -- see your own quote below -- and then
>>> "524" at the end of the paragraph. You own Jeff an apology.
>>>
>>>>"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>news:(E-Mail Removed) m...
>>>>> "Greg" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is
>>>>>>cable.
>>>>>>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs
>>>>>>down
>>>>>>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157
>>>>>>kbps
>>>>>>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>>>>>>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any
>>>>>>advantage
>>>>>>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>>>>>>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least
>>>>>>two
>>>>>>years old.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
>>>>> your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
>>>>> which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
>>>>> Something else is wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
>>>>> 11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
>>>>> service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
>>>>> eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
>>>>> router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
>>>>> case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
>>> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
>>> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
>>> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

>>

>
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> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>



 
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