A lot of people think AOL is a *BAD* thing.

Update: It has since come to our attention that AOL has added to its
website a 'good' version of the ad campaign promoting the virtues of
the Internet. While this is appreciated, the only ad currently running
on network British television is the 'bad' version, and that version is
far more striking and disturbing. As a reader pointed out to us, just
take a look at the discussion section of the AOL website. Every title
is about how the Internet is evil. It is clear that AOL is playing its
part in introducing the idea of censorship of the Internet, under the
false notion of having a 'debate' about it. Their loyalties are made
clear.

In a bizarrely offbeat new British advertising campaign, AOL asks if
the Internet is a good or a bad thing and encourages viewers to discuss
the issue.

The advert is clearly intended to influence the viewer into thinking
that the Internet is a negative force.

Despite the set-up that this is an equal debate, the sinister music,
dark voiceover and cold imagery leave the viewer with the impression
that the Internet will one day lead to humanity's very destruction.

Scenes of nuclear holocaust , Hitler, the Ku Klux Klan and Osama bin
Laden flash up as we are told that the Internet is a "dangerous
weapon."

Why is a transnational corporation that profits from encouraging people
to use the Internet running an ad campaign that discourages Internet
use?

The ad revels in the specter of big brother watching us all and warns
us that everything we do on the Internet is under surveillance.

The AOL 'discuss' website promotes donations to the Disasters Emergency
Committee, which is in part controlled by World Vision, a known CIA
front charity.

Take a look at the transcript lifted from AOL's website, along with
direction notes.

Images Blue-print of computer circuit board, close-up of eye.

Voice over Thanks to the internet, your identity can be stolen, your
home invaded and your savings robbed without anyone setting foot inside
your door.

Images Travelling down the line image, stick men, revolving head, hand
opening window as old couple and std sit at table in background,
blue-print of house, house exploding.

Voice over The internet is one of the most dangerous weapons every
created. A way for the unhinged to spread evil, free of supervision or
censorship.

Images Atom bomb, lies transmitter, b/w Nazis (3), skin-heads, KKK,
Osama Bin Laden, headlines.

Voice over A place for mankind to exercise its darkest desires. Images
Porn: silhouette, director viewing, close-up , girl looks at camera.

Voice over An open market where you can purchase anything you want.
Images Products flash up and then baby with price tag.

Voice over Orwell was right. Images 1984 footage

Voice over The internet has taken us to a place where everything we do
is watched, monitored and processed without us ever realising.

Images Kid on hobby-horse, surveillance cameras etc. Voice over Some
people think the internet is a bad thing. Images View of old man
looking at CCTV camera.

Voice over What do you think?

Super Discuss

Dissolves AOL

Again, why is a company that profits from people using their service to
access the Internet running a nationwide ad campaign that demonizes the
Internet?

Judging on current trends it is more than likely that this is part of
the movement to destroy the existing Internet and replace it with
Internet 2, a government regulated and controlled version whereby state
approval to even own a website will be required and in the short-term
future, only citizens with a 'green' color code security level on their
national ID card will be given permission to use the Internet at all.

Of course, with most of the population being obedient boot lickers this
won't affect them at all and they will happily comply.

But for the rest of us, those who are still able to engage their brain
and question world events and government policies, the Internet will
cease to exist, under the pretext that 'terrorists' can use it to shut
down the global economy.

The elite are in panic mode. Newspaper circulation is dwindling, less
people watch TV news. The biggest growth sector on the Internet is
alternative news, second only to porn.

The elite are in a desperate race to regain control of the Internet
because it has become a well-spring for discussion of alternative ideas
and the truth behind the 24/7 propaganda brainwashing churned out by
big brother.

A current poll on the AOL website shows 71% think the Internet is a
good thing on the back of the ad campaign. While this is obviously good
news, the number should be far higher.

Registration is required to use the discussion forum on the website.
Create an account and tell AOL that you don't appreciate their outright
fearmongering and demonization of the Internet.

Let them know that we know what they're up to.

AOL, a fucking ISP, can't decide if it thinks the internet is a good or
bad thing or not. Want my advice, ply your trade in China America
Offline, you're an information problem not a solution.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles.../030106aol.htm

"NH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> Update: It has since come to our attention that AOL has added to its
> website a 'good' version of the ad campaign promoting the virtues of
> the Internet. While this is appreciated, the only ad currently running
> on network British television is the 'bad' version, and that version is
> far more striking and disturbing. As a reader pointed out to us, just
> take a look at the discussion section of the AOL website. Every title
> is about how the Internet is evil. It is clear that AOL is playing its
> part in introducing the idea of censorship of the Internet, under the
> false notion of having a 'debate' about it. Their loyalties are made
> clear.

I never understood the point of those adverts. Sure fire way of putting off
new customers?

I guess the strategy of years of spamming everyone to death with their
CDs, and being rightfully regarded as a joke by all serious internet
users just wasn't enough for AOL. But what they are doing now is both
extremely disingenuous and monumentally dangerous, in effect, trying to
manufacture the premise for, invoke and then preside over, a
hazardously political book-burning scenario.

Their pernicious and inflammatory cloth-headed campaign sets up a
series of false debates intended to agitate you into participation on
their website, thereby validating their pantomime and AOL's assumptions
about your intelligence as a future customer. Meanwhile on their page,
in their 'internet is bad' video, images of Big Brotheresque body scans
are juxtaposed between footage of Osama Bin Laden and the Ku Klux Klan.
(I swiftly filtered out this entire garbage with adblock before I even
finished watching it).

Of course you have to provide an email address in order to participate
in this enlightening 'discussion' they have kindly set up for you, and
in doing so, no doubt, they will be contacting you after you leave your
furious but inconsequential (to them) comment to send you another one
of their crappy worthless CDs.

AOL, who have been gleefully exploiting their net newbie racket for
well over a decade (and way longer than that), have now suddenly
proposed that the net has just appeared and is indoctrinating you and
your kids with porn, 'hate', and 'terror', whilst encouraging the 'dark
desires of man', visualized (shock horror) as a pretty blonde woman.

On their discussion page, a spurious shopping list of negatives are
presented, then on the other side of the screen, they have a box saying
how wonderful it is that children can learn from the internet. Both
'good' and 'bad' are disingenuously littered with enough false
information and bogus arguments to sustain the deception just long
enough to grab some email addresses, and shove a bucket-load of cookies
into the machines of their victims. They then repeat that formula for
'ID theft', privacy (a massive problem for AOL users 1 2) and other
similar political and contentious issues to ensure you will remain
wound up enough to stay sufficently unaware of the monstrous scam.

In reality of course, the 'discussion' is a fraud and utterly
worthless, a mere tool to get you to their site. And after all, no
informed one way or the other view could possibily be debated or
derived from the calculated false choices AOL have presented, a point
which AOL well know. It's like saying cars are good/bad, or food is
good/bad, although when AOL start asking questions like 'is freedom of
speech good or bad', then we know the whole plot they have constructed
is very bad indeed. I suspect the 'discuss' bit is just laying the
groundwork for their 'solution' (yawn), which will form the next stage
of the campaign, and it provides a TV-internet response statistic as
well tricking some casualties into signing up for an AOL account.

Bizarrely, 21% of AOL's visitors to their 'discussion' site (according
their poll there) think the internet is 'bad'. Perhaps that 21% use
AOL, but in any event we should not forget that AOL's core market has
always been people who know nothing about the internet to begin with.
And no doubt, AOL will use this scam to profit from the remaining
handful of clueless idiots out there who haven't yet recieved a CD or
whatever they do these days, so that they may subscribe to AOL's
proprietary spying, monitoring and filters that will save them from
this debauched post-9/11 pandemonium of the internet.

The really sinister aspect of all this, and why I think this kind of
commercial advertising, with this kind of message, that starts on TV
shouldn't really be broadcast at all, is that AOL's campaign is
inherently political in nature. Furthermore, it uses an extraordinarily
arrogant and fraudulent vocabulary of concepts to create this
distinctly artificial message, and that is all enormously worrying.

It trades off of the political war on terror mania to fear monger.
Worse, AOL deliberately and knowingly mislead, frequently presenting
good points as bad points and vice versa to create a big swirling mess
of lies and nonsense so as to guarantee your reaction. The internet, of
all things, is painted as the Orwellian 'Big Brother' threat to you (a
double or triple layered lie), when nothing could be further from the
truth. The internet is about the only place left where you have a huge
measure of control over your privacy and power to easily exercise your
inalienable right of freedom of speech. Everywhere else, that
inalienable right has been subverted and distorted and suppressed while
Tony Blair grandstands about 'terrorism', 'tolerance' or some other
fraudulent token by which to disguise his hatred of liberty. So it is
all the more disturbing that AOL's campaign, has more than a hint of
endorsement toward the gross, abnormal and dehumanizing results of the
purely political choices going on within the UK as a means of selling
it's brand to it's core market of cretins.

Worst of all, this campaign, astonishingly, horrendously, mirrors
exactly the same kind of corrupt fraudulent options put forward by the
political establishment that has made the world such a grotesque mess
and that we use the internet to help escape from, and re-educate
ourselves against.

More generally, this kind of appalling scaremongering with the internet
died a death about 5 years ago, rendering this drivel both
preposterously regressive, and staggeringly redundant.

In uk.telecom.broadband NH <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Update: It has since come to our attention that AOL has added to its
> website a 'good' version of the ad campaign promoting the virtues of
> the Internet. While this is appreciated, the only ad currently running
> on network British television is the 'bad' version, and that version is
> far more striking and disturbing. As a reader pointed out to us, just
> take a look at the discussion section of the AOL website. Every title
> is about how the Internet is evil. It is clear that AOL is playing its
> part in introducing the idea of censorship of the Internet, under the
> false notion of having a 'debate' about it. Their loyalties are made
> clear.

> In a bizarrely offbeat new British advertising campaign, AOL asks if
> the Internet is a good or a bad thing and encourages viewers to discuss
> the issue.

> The advert is clearly intended to influence the viewer into thinking
> that the Internet is a negative force.

Well, from memories of AOL a few years ago, they at that time did not
provide an Internet service. There was a limited web service, but as a
couple of our clients found out, most TCP/IP protocols were not
implemented. So, they are probably annoyed that their customer base is
falling (having been quite high at one stage when they were more a less
a networked BBS), realise that people who want genuine unrestricted
Internet access are unlikely to sign up with them, so choose to target
those who feel they needed to be treated as sheep and spared the horrors
of the world wild web.

Axel

"NH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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<SNIP> - VERY well written! I don't agree with everything you
say, but I definitely do agree with most of it.

> More generally, this kind of appalling scaremongering with
> the internet died a death about 5 years ago, rendering this
> drivel both preposterously regressive, and staggeringly
> redundant.

IOW, PERFECT as a tool for recruiting new AOL victims.
:-)

t.
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(E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
> The biggest growth sector on the Internet is
> alternative news, second only to porn.

I thought it was online poker.
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On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:18:54 -0000, Jon <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>(E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
>> The biggest growth sector on the Internet is
>> alternative news, second only to porn.
>
>I thought it was online poker.
>--
In pure bandwidth I imagine viral videos has overtaken MP3s that did
hold the distinction for a while. In pure web hits I imagine porno is
still king.
Bootleg music probably fell off because serious pirates already have
every song ever recorded, at least every one they want. I am having a
hard time finding anything I am still interested in, from the 50s
through the 90s. There are usually less than 100 songs a year worth
investing oxide on but I still ended up with over 5000

On 01 Dec 2006 03:13:29 GMT, thanatoid <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>"NH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>
><SNIP> - VERY well written! I don't agree with everything you
>say, but I definitely do agree with most of it.
>
>> More generally, this kind of appalling scaremongering with
>> the internet died a death about 5 years ago, rendering this
>> drivel both preposterously regressive, and staggeringly
>> redundant.
>
>IOW, PERFECT as a tool for recruiting new AOL victims.
>:-)

Maybe it's a prelude to AOL reversing their decision to connect to the
Internet. If they go ahead and unplug, that will be no bad thing ;-)

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Jon <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) declared for all the world to hear...
>> The biggest growth sector on the Internet is
>> alternative news, second only to porn.

>I thought it was online poker.

(Fun fact: an estimated 40 percent of all Internet traffic consists of
people sharing files using BitTorrent.)
- I don't back the claim just copy and paste -
http://rothbrothers.blogspot.com/200...ce-bitten.html

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