Lost Network Connectivity

When I booted up my PC tonight (Compaq Presario 8000Z from 2002) I was
surprised to see that I had no network connectivity. My network icons did
not pop up in the task bar, Nortons indicated it had a problem in starting
(probably going out on the net for something) and there was no Internet
connections. I checked the Network connection window and saw that all
network connections were missing. I tried to do the IPCONFIG command and got
a message that said DHCPCSVC.DLL was not a valid windows image. I can ping
127.0.0.1, but nothing else. I'm ready to pull my hair out! This is really
too wierd!

My last system activity was to load the Microsoft Spyware Beta on the 13th.
I did run it and think I even had network connectivity after that.

Does anyone know what could have happened?

Since you have at least part of Symantec's worthless crap I'm guessing
you have their firewall. I strongly recommend uninstalling that
worthless piece of crap. Please remember also that Symantec helped Sony
write the root kit virus so that it wouldn't be detected by anti-virus
software. They don't have your best interests in mind. Windows XP
firewall doesn't get screwed up as often as other software firewalls do.

So please uninstall your firewall as it is the cause of all your
problems. One last note this newsgroup is for the Microsoft Broadband
Networking Hardware & the software that comes with it only. It is not a
general networking newsgroup. For that you might try something like the
following.

microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web

Gordon wrote:
> When I booted up my PC tonight (Compaq Presario 8000Z from 2002) I was
> surprised to see that I had no network connectivity. My network icons did
> not pop up in the task bar, Nortons indicated it had a problem in starting
> (probably going out on the net for something) and there was no Internet
> connections. I checked the Network connection window and saw that all
> network connections were missing. I tried to do the IPCONFIG command and got
> a message that said DHCPCSVC.DLL was not a valid windows image. I can ping
> 127.0.0.1, but nothing else. I'm ready to pull my hair out! This is really
> too wierd!
>
> My last system activity was to load the Microsoft Spyware Beta on the 13th.
> I did run it and think I even had network connectivity after that.
>
> Does anyone know what could have happened?

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is this validated somewhere by an authoritative source?

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:29:56 -0700, Joe Crown <no-(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Please remember also that Symantec helped Sony
>write the root kit virus so that it wouldn't be detected by anti-virus
>software.
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Expert Zone Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

I was half tempted to follow your advise until I read your complete post.

First of all I'm using Symantec for virus protection. I use the Microsoft
Windows firewall, not Symantec.

Second, when looking through the gazillion news groups in this Microsoft
community it's difficult to find the exact group that fits your problem. I
have networking issues and am using broadband, so this seemed to be the
logical choice at the moment. I will be happy to go elsewhere if I have to
put up with comments like yours!

Third, you are arrogant and hostile!

"Joe Crown" wrote:

> Since you have at least part of Symantec's worthless crap I'm guessing
> you have their firewall. I strongly recommend uninstalling that
> worthless piece of crap. Please remember also that Symantec helped Sony
> write the root kit virus so that it wouldn't be detected by anti-virus
> software. They don't have your best interests in mind. Windows XP
> firewall doesn't get screwed up as often as other software firewalls do.
>
> So please uninstall your firewall as it is the cause of all your
> problems. One last note this newsgroup is for the Microsoft Broadband
> Networking Hardware & the software that comes with it only. It is not a
> general networking newsgroup. For that you might try something like the
> following.
>
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
>
> Gordon wrote:
> > When I booted up my PC tonight (Compaq Presario 8000Z from 2002) I was
> > surprised to see that I had no network connectivity. My network icons did
> > not pop up in the task bar, Nortons indicated it had a problem in starting
> > (probably going out on the net for something) and there was no Internet
> > connections. I checked the Network connection window and saw that all
> > network connections were missing. I tried to do the IPCONFIG command and got
> > a message that said DHCPCSVC.DLL was not a valid windows image. I can ping
> > 127.0.0.1, but nothing else. I'm ready to pull my hair out! This is really
> > too wierd!
> >
> > My last system activity was to load the Microsoft Spyware Beta on the 13th.
> > I did run it and think I even had network connectivity after that.
> >
> > Does anyone know what could have happened?
>
> --
>
> Don't pay malware vendors - boycott Sony & Symantec for helping them
>
> Please do not contact me directly or ask me to contact you directly for
> assistance.
>
> If your question is worth asking, it's worth posting.
>
> If it’s not worth posting you should have done a search on
> http://www.google.com/ http://www.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&q= or
> http://news.google.com/froogle?hl=en&tab=nf&ned=us&q= before wasting our
> time.
>
> If I sound hostile or arrogant you need to read the following before
> posting a question "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" at
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (The site I've linked
> to just has this article I think people should read before posting a
> technical question.)
>

Gordon, while I tend to agree with Joe on Norton/Symantec products as being
very intrusive, this newsgroup is for support of Microsoft's Broadband
Networking hardware and software products only, not general networking
issues which don't involve either Microsoft's routers or adapters. I'd
suggest you post your issues to a general LAN group such as
microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web.

As a little note, check Device Manager to make sure whatever adapter you're
using isn't banged out, perhaps needing a new driver installed.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:BCF7B18D-C35F-4640-B013-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I was half tempted to follow your advise until I read your complete post.
>
> First of all I'm using Symantec for virus protection. I use the Microsoft
> Windows firewall, not Symantec.
>
> Second, when looking through the gazillion news groups in this Microsoft
> community it's difficult to find the exact group that fits your problem.
> I
> have networking issues and am using broadband, so this seemed to be the
> logical choice at the moment. I will be happy to go elsewhere if I have
> to
> put up with comments like yours!
>
> Third, you are arrogant and hostile!

I read about that on /. so it might not be 100% true, but I still don't
trust them. I haven't since they stopped doing DOS software & went into
Windows.

Barb Bowman MVP-Windows wrote:
> is this validated somewhere by an authoritative source?
>
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:29:56 -0700, Joe Crown <no-(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>> Please remember also that Symantec helped Sony
>> write the root kit virus so that it wouldn't be detected by anti-virus
>> software.
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVP
> Expert Zone Columnist
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

--

Don't pay malware vendors - boycott Sony & Symantec for helping them

Please do not contact me directly or ask me to contact you directly for
assistance.

If your question is worth asking, it's worth posting.

If it’s not worth posting you should have done a search on
http://www.google.com/ http://www.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&q= or
http://news.google.com/froogle?hl=en&tab=nf&ned=us&q= before wasting our
time.

If I sound hostile or arrogant you need to read the following before
posting a question "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" at
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (The site I've linked
to just has this article I think people should read before posting a
technical question.)

Better yet I found it. It is over at the following link.

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?s...51113164717817

"When the story first hit, here's the explanation given by First 4
Internet, the company that wrote the rootkit for Sony1 :

The creator of the copy-protection software, a British company called
First 4 Internet, said the cloaking mechanism was not a risk, and that
its team worked closely with big antivirus companies such as Symantec to
ensure that was the case. The cloaking function was aimed at making it
difficult, though not impossible, to hack the content protection in ways
that have been simple in similar products, the company said."

So I think this should be considered a reputable source & thus Symantec
did help make the rootkit so it wouldn't be detected by anti-virus
software like I said.

Upon checking the story that this blog linked to they made a correction
at the end of it. So maybe they didn't actually do this, but I still
don't trust them.

Joe Crown wrote:
> I read about that on /. so it might not be 100% true, but I still don't
> trust them. I haven't since they stopped doing DOS software & went into
> Windows.
>
> Barb Bowman MVP-Windows wrote:
>> is this validated somewhere by an authoritative source?
>>
>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:29:56 -0700, Joe Crown <no-(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please remember also that Symantec helped Sony write the root kit
>>> virus so that it wouldn't be detected by anti-virus software.
>> --
>>
>> Barb Bowman
>> MS Windows-MVP
>> Expert Zone Columnist
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
>> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>

--

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Please do not contact me directly or ask me to contact you directly for
assistance.

If your question is worth asking, it's worth posting.

If it’s not worth posting you should have done a search on
http://www.google.com/ http://www.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&q= or
http://news.google.com/froogle?hl=en&tab=nf&ned=us&q= before wasting our
time.

If I sound hostile or arrogant you need to read the following before
posting a question "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" at
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (The site I've linked
to just has this article I think people should read before posting a
technical question.)

If you think I'm hostile now you should have seen me over a year ago.
I'll show you what I was telling people back then.

'Well lets look at the name of the newsgroup. It starts with
"microsoft" so that must mean we only talk about Microsoft products.
Next it says "public" so that means any person can post here. Then it
says "broadbandnet" so since this is a Microsoft newsgroup it must be
talking about the Microsoft Broadband Networking. Last but not least it
says "hardware" So that must mean it is the Microsoft hardware for
networking that we talk about.

Thus this is not a general networking newsgroup, but one for the
Microsoft Broadband networking hardware. I'd suggest either posting in
a newsgroup for the hardware you are running, a general networking
newsgroup, or one for whatever version of Windows you are running.'

So I think I've toned it down a lot. Second try thinking about the
naming of the newsgroup as that should tell you are in the wrong group,
but wait you are not going to spend the time to post in a newsgroup
where people actually will help you. I will also let you know if you
ask the question in the right newsgroup people will help you & some
people hate it when you ask questions in the wrong newsgroup.

Gordon wrote:
> I was half tempted to follow your advise until I read your complete post.
>
> First of all I'm using Symantec for virus protection. I use the Microsoft
> Windows firewall, not Symantec.
>
> Second, when looking through the gazillion news groups in this Microsoft
> community it's difficult to find the exact group that fits your problem. I
> have networking issues and am using broadband, so this seemed to be the
> logical choice at the moment. I will be happy to go elsewhere if I have to
> put up with comments like yours!
>
> Third, you are arrogant and hostile!
>


--

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Please do not contact me directly or ask me to contact you directly for
assistance.

If your question is worth asking, it's worth posting.

If it’s not worth posting you should have done a search on
http://www.google.com/ http://www.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&q= or
http://news.google.com/froogle?hl=en&tab=nf&ned=us&q= before wasting our
time.

If I sound hostile or arrogant you need to read the following before
posting a question "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" at
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (The site I've linked
to just has this article I think people should read before posting a
technical question.)

Point well taken. I don't use newsgroups, or discussion groups (i.e.
computers, software, dog training, etc.) that often, unless I am having
problems or need answers to a question. I haven't visited the MS Newsgroup
for quite a while and noticed right away it had a much different look. I
stumbled on the networking group and because I use broadband I figured it
would fit right in.

Also, after looking more cloesly I see the pathname of the group in the
upper right of the post/reply.

I will search other places for answers to my questions and see if I can't
find the right group.

"Joe Crown" wrote:

> If you think I'm hostile now you should have seen me over a year ago.
> I'll show you what I was telling people back then.
>
> 'Well lets look at the name of the newsgroup. It starts with
> "microsoft" so that must mean we only talk about Microsoft products.
> Next it says "public" so that means any person can post here. Then it
> says "broadbandnet" so since this is a Microsoft newsgroup it must be
> talking about the Microsoft Broadband Networking. Last but not least it
> says "hardware" So that must mean it is the Microsoft hardware for
> networking that we talk about.
>
> Thus this is not a general networking newsgroup, but one for the
> Microsoft Broadband networking hardware. I'd suggest either posting in
> a newsgroup for the hardware you are running, a general networking
> newsgroup, or one for whatever version of Windows you are running.'
>
> So I think I've toned it down a lot. Second try thinking about the
> naming of the newsgroup as that should tell you are in the wrong group,
> but wait you are not going to spend the time to post in a newsgroup
> where people actually will help you. I will also let you know if you
> ask the question in the right newsgroup people will help you & some
> people hate it when you ask questions in the wrong newsgroup.
>
> Gordon wrote:
> > I was half tempted to follow your advise until I read your complete post.
> >
> > First of all I'm using Symantec for virus protection. I use the Microsoft
> > Windows firewall, not Symantec.
> >
> > Second, when looking through the gazillion news groups in this Microsoft
> > community it's difficult to find the exact group that fits your problem. I
> > have networking issues and am using broadband, so this seemed to be the
> > logical choice at the moment. I will be happy to go elsewhere if I have to
> > put up with comments like yours!
> >
> > Third, you are arrogant and hostile!
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Don't pay malware vendors - boycott Sony & Symantec for helping them
>
> Please do not contact me directly or ask me to contact you directly for
> assistance.
>
> If your question is worth asking, it's worth posting.
>
> If it’s not worth posting you should have done a search on
> http://www.google.com/ http://www.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&q= or
> http://news.google.com/froogle?hl=en&tab=nf&ned=us&q= before wasting our
> time.
>
> If I sound hostile or arrogant you need to read the following before
> posting a question "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" at
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (The site I've linked
> to just has this article I think people should read before posting a
> technical question.)
>

I've already told you the right group. As well as Chris H. (MVP) has as
well. I'll now make a suggestion that might help you. Use ThunderBird
or some other newsreader. Then add the news server of
news.microsoft.com & when you do a subscription type in the word
network, that will list all the newsgroups with the word network in it.
That should help you find it faster or you could just listen to me &
try the microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web newsgroup as you have
already been told by two different people.

Gordon wrote:
> Point well taken. I don't use newsgroups, or discussion groups (i.e.
> computers, software, dog training, etc.) that often, unless I am having
> problems or need answers to a question. I haven't visited the MS Newsgroup
> for quite a while and noticed right away it had a much different look. I
> stumbled on the networking group and because I use broadband I figured it
> would fit right in.
>
> Also, after looking more cloesly I see the pathname of the group in the
> upper right of the post/reply.
>
> I will search other places for answers to my questions and see if I can't
> find the right group.
>

--

Don't pay malware vendors - boycott Sony & Symantec for helping them

Please do not contact me directly or ask me to contact you directly for
assistance.

If your question is worth asking, it's worth posting.

If it’s not worth posting you should have done a search on
http://www.google.com/ http://www.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&q= or
http://news.google.com/froogle?hl=en&tab=nf&ned=us&q= before wasting our
time.

If I sound hostile or arrogant you need to read the following before
posting a question "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" at
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (The site I've linked
to just has this article I think people should read before posting a
technical question.)