lost connections

What could the problem be when our Windows 98 machines are randomly losing
connection to the Windows 2003 server?

They lose connection when they try to print. It then asks for a password
for the printer. It only happens occasionally. Sometimes it happens when
they print from the accounting software. Sometimes they're just printing an
email from Outlook. When this happens, we have them reboot to sign back on,
and try again. How do we prevent it? So far we have no problems with
Windows 2000, but we only have a couple of 2000 users. Most are on Windows
98. We can't afford to upgrade everyone to 2000/XP at this time.

We did have a problem with users losing all their printer definitions and
having to reboot to get them back. Changing spool settings to RAW seems to
fix that.

"Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:eapQloi%(E-Mail Removed)...
> What could the problem be when our Windows 98 machines are randomly losing
> connection to the Windows 2003 server?
>
>

Hi,

it´s because a setting in the 2K3 domain controller policy.
In Active Directory Users and Computers, rightclick om Domain Controllers,
Group Policy. Edit the default domain controller policy. Under Computer
Config, Security Options (something, don´t have any computer around to look
at), there is a setting called something like Default disconnect client = 15
min. Change this to 0.

/GK

"Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> skrev i meddelandet
news:O$H22vi#(E-Mail Removed)...
> They lose connection when they try to print. It then asks for a password
> for the printer. It only happens occasionally. Sometimes it happens when
> they print from the accounting software. Sometimes they're just printing
an
> email from Outlook. When this happens, we have them reboot to sign back
on,
> and try again. How do we prevent it? So far we have no problems with
> Windows 2000, but we only have a couple of 2000 users. Most are on
Windows
> 98. We can't afford to upgrade everyone to 2000/XP at this time.
>
> We did have a problem with users losing all their printer definitions and
> having to reboot to get them back. Changing spool settings to RAW seems
to
> fix that.
>
> "Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:eapQloi%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > What could the problem be when our Windows 98 machines are randomly
losing
> > connection to the Windows 2003 server?
> >
> >
>
>

No, this setting is already zero. We are also not using Terminal Services.
Any other ideas?

"Göran Karlsson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:eCc3%23sk%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
> it´s because a setting in the 2K3 domain controller policy.
> In Active Directory Users and Computers, rightclick om Domain Controllers,
> Group Policy. Edit the default domain controller policy. Under Computer
> Config, Security Options (something, don´t have any computer around to
look
> at), there is a setting called something like Default disconnect client =
15
> min. Change this to 0.
>
> /GK
>
> "Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> skrev i meddelandet
> news:O$H22vi#(E-Mail Removed)...
> > They lose connection when they try to print. It then asks for a
password
> > for the printer. It only happens occasionally. Sometimes it happens
when
> > they print from the accounting software. Sometimes they're just
printing
> an
> > email from Outlook. When this happens, we have them reboot to sign back
> on,
> > and try again. How do we prevent it? So far we have no problems with
> > Windows 2000, but we only have a couple of 2000 users. Most are on
> Windows
> > 98. We can't afford to upgrade everyone to 2000/XP at this time.
> >
> > We did have a problem with users losing all their printer definitions
and
> > having to reboot to get them back. Changing spool settings to RAW seems
> to
> > fix that.
> >
> > "Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:eapQloi%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > What could the problem be when our Windows 98 machines are randomly
> losing
> > > connection to the Windows 2003 server?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Have you also tried to disable SMB signing? In the same GPO as mentioned.

/Göran

"Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> skrev i meddelandet
news:ONinOVu#(E-Mail Removed)...
> No, this setting is already zero. We are also not using Terminal
Services.
> Any other ideas?
>
> "Göran Karlsson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:eCc3%23sk%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi,
> >
> > it´s because a setting in the 2K3 domain controller policy.
> > In Active Directory Users and Computers, rightclick om Domain
Controllers,
> > Group Policy. Edit the default domain controller policy. Under Computer
> > Config, Security Options (something, don´t have any computer around to
> look
> > at), there is a setting called something like Default disconnect client
=
> 15
> > min. Change this to 0.
> >
> > /GK
> >
> > "Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:O$H22vi#(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > They lose connection when they try to print. It then asks for a
> password
> > > for the printer. It only happens occasionally. Sometimes it happens
> when
> > > they print from the accounting software. Sometimes they're just
> printing
> > an
> > > email from Outlook. When this happens, we have them reboot to sign
back
> > on,
> > > and try again. How do we prevent it? So far we have no problems with
> > > Windows 2000, but we only have a couple of 2000 users. Most are on
> > Windows
> > > 98. We can't afford to upgrade everyone to 2000/XP at this time.
> > >
> > > We did have a problem with users losing all their printer definitions
> and
> > > having to reboot to get them back. Changing spool settings to RAW
seems
> > to
> > > fix that.
> > >
> > > "Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:eapQloi%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > What could the problem be when our Windows 98 machines are randomly
> > losing
> > > > connection to the Windows 2003 server?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

How would this work? If SMB was an issue wouldn't users not be able to sign
on? Everyone is signed on, they just get randomly disconnected throughout
the day. I'm a novice at this server stuff if you could explain better.
Some consultant came in and set it all up so I'm not sure how it's
configured. Shouldn't SMB be enabled? Are you talking about this
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;555038 or something
else? It just says in there to enable SMB on the Win98 machines. I
couldn't find anything about setting the SMB on the server.

"Göran Karlsson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:OhIlaRx%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Have you also tried to disable SMB signing? In the same GPO as mentioned.
>
> /Göran
>
> "Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> skrev i meddelandet
> news:ONinOVu#(E-Mail Removed)...
> > No, this setting is already zero. We are also not using Terminal
> Services.
> > Any other ideas?
> >
> > "Göran Karlsson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:eCc3%23sk%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > it´s because a setting in the 2K3 domain controller policy.
> > > In Active Directory Users and Computers, rightclick om Domain
> Controllers,
> > > Group Policy. Edit the default domain controller policy. Under
Computer
> > > Config, Security Options (something, don´t have any computer around to
> > look
> > > at), there is a setting called something like Default disconnect
client
> =
> > 15
> > > min. Change this to 0.
> > >
> > > /GK
> > >
> > > "Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> skrev i meddelandet
> > > news:O$H22vi#(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > They lose connection when they try to print. It then asks for a
> > password
> > > > for the printer. It only happens occasionally. Sometimes it
happens
> > when
> > > > they print from the accounting software. Sometimes they're just
> > printing
> > > an
> > > > email from Outlook. When this happens, we have them reboot to sign
> back
> > > on,
> > > > and try again. How do we prevent it? So far we have no problems
with
> > > > Windows 2000, but we only have a couple of 2000 users. Most are on
> > > Windows
> > > > 98. We can't afford to upgrade everyone to 2000/XP at this time.
> > > >
> > > > We did have a problem with users losing all their printer
definitions
> > and
> > > > having to reboot to get them back. Changing spool settings to RAW
> seems
> > > to
> > > > fix that.
> > > >
> > > > "Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:eapQloi%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > What could the problem be when our Windows 98 machines are
randomly
> > > losing
> > > > > connection to the Windows 2003 server?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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