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My ISP (Entanet) has started throttling newsgroup server access at
busy times, which I find a big nuisance.
(Newsgroup downloads seem such a small component of download
traffic I don't really see what they are saving.)

No other complaints.

Can anyone recommend an ISP that doesn't do throttling?

I'm currently on ADSLMax with a 3GB/month limit, @ £16/month.
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:27:45 +0100, Maurice Batey wrote:

> My ISP (Entanet) has started throttling newsgroup server access at busy
> times, which I find a big nuisance.
> (Newsgroup downloads seem such a small component of download
> traffic I don't really see what they are saving.)
>
> No other complaints.
>
> Can anyone recommend an ISP that doesn't do throttling?
>
> I'm currently on ADSLMax with a 3GB/month limit, @ £16/month.

http://sod.ms


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Maurice Batey wrote:
> My ISP (Entanet) has started throttling newsgroup server access at
> busy times, which I find a big nuisance.
> (Newsgroup downloads seem such a small component of download
> traffic I don't really see what they are saving.)
>
> No other complaints.
>
> Can anyone recommend an ISP that doesn't do throttling?
>
> I'm currently on ADSLMax with a 3GB/month limit, @ £16/month.

have a look at www.kitz.co.uk and make up your own mind.

The Natural Philosopher <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Maurice Batey wrote:
> > My ISP (Entanet) has started throttling newsgroup server access at
> > busy times, which I find a big nuisance.
> > (Newsgroup downloads seem such a small component of download
> > traffic I don't really see what they are saving.)

Sorry I've lost the earlier post, so I'm replying to MB not TNP.

The reason will be that the ISP is not discriminating between text-only
newsgroups and binary ones; posts on the latter can be very large.

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>
>>My ISP (Entanet) has started throttling newsgroup server access at
>>busy times, which I find a big nuisance.
>> (Newsgroup downloads seem such a small component of download
>>traffic I don't really see what they are saving.)
>>
>>No other complaints.
>>
>>Can anyone recommend an ISP that doesn't do throttling?
>>
>>I'm currently on ADSLMax with a 3GB/month limit, @ £16/month.
>
> Zen don't use throttling or profiling.
> But you could get around the problem if your news service offers
> access with SSL on port 443 (https).

news.eternal-september.org provides this, and solved an identical problem
I had with Tiscali.

Ultimately I ditched Tiscali; why should users have to resort to devious work-arounds
to exchange a few Meg of plain-text posts?

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On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 12:58:36 +0100, Jeremy Nicoll - news posts wrote:

> The reason will be that the ISP is not discriminating between text-only
> newsgroups and binary ones; posts on the latter can be very large.

That's the No. 1 suspicion! I've already put that point to them...

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On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:09:23 +0100, Graham. wrote:

> why should users have to resort to devious work-arounds
> to exchange a few Meg of plain-text posts?

Indeed!

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On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 12:17:58 +0100, Plusnet Support Team wrote:

> If you're on a Market 3 exchange

I don't know what that is.

> ...our Pro product would meet your
> requirements - http://www.plus.net/residential/broadband/pro.shtml

But you do not offer unmeasured over weekends (which Entanet does).
Would not want to lose that...

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Maurice Batey <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 12:58:36 +0100, Jeremy Nicoll - news posts wrote:
>
> > The reason will be that the ISP is not discriminating between text-only
> > newsgroups and binary ones; posts on the latter can be very large.
>
> That's the No. 1 suspicion! I've already put that point to them...

Putting the point to them will not help you. They already know that nntp is
a traffic volume problem for them.

Your ISP will not be able to discriminate between the types of traffic
without inspecting the content of the packets - which you would not want
them to do.

All they'll currently be doing is throttling on the basis of the (nntp
server's) port address. That is they're probably saying "any traffic going
to/from port 119 anywhere is nntp so we'll throttle it". It's possible -
but unlikely - that they also filter on the IP addresses of well-known nntp
servers - it's not as if there are millions of them around.

As someone else said, if your news provider allows access on a non-standard
port you might be able to get around this - but only if your ISP is
sufficiently unclued-up not to throttle well-known servers' alternate ports
or by IP address.

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Jeremy Nicoll - news posts wrote:
> Maurice Batey <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 12:58:36 +0100, Jeremy Nicoll - news posts wrote:
>>
>>> The reason will be that the ISP is not discriminating between text-only
>>> newsgroups and binary ones; posts on the latter can be very large.
>> That's the No. 1 suspicion! I've already put that point to them...
>
> Putting the point to them will not help you. They already know that nntp is
> a traffic volume problem for them.
>
> Your ISP will not be able to discriminate between the types of traffic
> without inspecting the content of the packets - which you would not want
> them to do.
>
> All they'll currently be doing is throttling on the basis of the (nntp
> server's) port address. That is they're probably saying "any traffic going
> to/from port 119 anywhere is nntp so we'll throttle it". It's possible -
> but unlikely - that they also filter on the IP addresses of well-known nntp
> servers - it's not as if there are millions of them around.
>
> As someone else said, if your news provider allows access on a non-standard
> port you might be able to get around this - but only if your ISP is
> sufficiently unclued-up not to throttle well-known servers' alternate ports
> or by IP address.
>
The key is to use a text only server.

They would be unlikely to throttle THAT.